Originally Posted by Dan Druff
you dont understand putin's objectives. russia is 1200+ years old for all intents. they arent concerned with who wins what presidential election, they just want the world to write us off and stop fawning over our 'so called democracy' (their words, not mine).
trump is good for russia because trump is terrible for america/nato/those pesky intellectuals in ukraine/etc, is the vibe at bar.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
but they dont need trump to win to damage america, they just need ... well... what your average poster here says and thinks.
its all rigged against them
dont trust science
dont trust anyone educated
nato states are terrorists etc etc
the elections are rigged
msm
woke
trump is their magnum opus because he is the bandleader playing their greatest hits, and this site is the girls in the audience at 1960s beatles shows screaming and pissing themselves.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
The russkis got to you too tine….say it ain’t so!
Russia has different objectives and narratives. And they paid Chen to help push them via her network of content creators, as well as her own content. But that still doesn't answer why they had Chen start bashing Trump.
Clearly if they wanted Trump to win, they would have had her speak positively of him, not negatively. And since it's basically a binary choice in US Presidential elections, that means we can conclude which candidate they want to see emerge victorious.
It's actually smart to bribe right wing influencers to try to turn the base against Trump, rather than pay lefties to bash him, or to run ads against him. Most pro-Trump right wingers can't be swayed... unless another right winger they respect is speaking out against him.
Unfortunately the average simpleton will equate "Russian money going to conservative influencers" with "Russia wants Trump to win", so this will be a (bullshit) line of attack for years to come.
Russia has different objectives and narratives. And they paid Chen to help push them via her network of content creators, as well as her own content. But that still doesn't answer why they had Chen start bashing Trump.
Clearly if they wanted Trump to win, they would have had her speak positively of him, not negatively. And since it's basically a binary choice in US Presidential elections, that means we can conclude which candidate they want to see emerge victorious.
It's actually smart to bribe right wing influencers to try to turn the base against Trump, rather than pay lefties to bash him, or to run ads against him. Most pro-Trump right wingers can't be swayed... unless another right winger they respect is speaking out against him.
Unfortunately the average simpleton will equate "Russian money going to conservative influencers" with "Russia wants Trump to win", so this will be a (bullshit) line of attack for years to come.
anything that bashes something is good trolling, but they dont need to control narratives, they can simply amplify anything thats good trolling because it inflames partisan friction.
its why russia also sets up BLM puppet pages, for example. and why jill stein was so weirdly over-represented. and why tulsi is now.
its like that bit about trolling; the point isnt the opinion you post, the point is the 50 people smashing keys because you posted it.
example; if kamala gets elected, russia will inflame global extremism on both sides of the aisle and then finance the influencers pointing at it and saying 'this is the result of progressive politics' the loudest.
the reason why they would prefer a trump win is because he is going to do 90% of that for free.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
also no ones asking but if you arent wondering how much of the trans movements visibility is pushed by russian sentiment manipulators, you have work to do.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
LOL Team Retard getting cucked into foaming anger by Russian ops, Retard Siberia has a whole new meaning.
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Sorry but you're voting for the candidate who called Jussie's fake attack "a modern day lynching".
Can't get more retarded than that.
Perhaps...
And yet, the left has bought into it hook, line and sinker.
It’s clear that Putin now prefers an incompetent moron with no foreign policy experience to his unpredictable asset. Just look at Orko’s posts lately.
I can't see how you believe they'd prefer a Trump win. Maybe that's what you'd like to believe, but that just isn't the case.
Attacks from your own side can kill you. Look at how Romney's influence in the party (and among the base) fell, once Trump went after him.
The Russians were smart to pay conservative influencers -- most of whom were phonies and just in it for the money in the first place -- to do their bidding to help fracture the Trump-supporting base. That can force people to stay home during the election -- people who are not the slightest bit swayed by media or left wing talking points against Trump. Hell, I'm not even a MAGA guy, but I also tune out of the left when they bash Trump.
Look, bottom line is Trump is not predictable. He flies by the seat of his pants with foreign policy, whereas Democrats have a very obvious playbook put together by "experts", and they're even dumb enough to directly state what their plans will be.
I've compared it before to a poker game. The opponent you hate playing against is the loose-aggressive guy who can literally do anything at any time, but isn't just making mindless moves. Some of his moves are stupid and some are smart, and you have no idea where you are a lot of the time. The easiest opponent is the ABC player who only bets/raises when he has it, and never deviates from a set strategy.
Of course Russia wants the predictable opponent. It's a Democrat faantasy that Biden/Kamala are the masters of great foreign policy which frustrates Russia, and Trump is the simpleton they manipulate.
YOU'VE WAITED AN AWFUL LONG TIME TO FINALLY ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF WHY RUSSIA WANTS TEAM NOT SO SMART TO WIN.
BECAUSE YOU COMPARED IT TO POKER...HERE'S THE RULE THAT EVERY POKER PLAYER THAT HAS ANY SENSE KNOWS...IF YOU CAN'T SPOT THE FISH AT THE TABLE...YOU'RE PROBABLY THE FISH.
I can't see how you believe they'd prefer a Trump win. Maybe that's what you'd like to believe, but that just isn't the case.
Attacks from your own side can kill you. Look at how Romney's influence in the party (and among the base) fell, once Trump went after him.
The Russians were smart to pay conservative influencers -- most of whom were phonies and just in it for the money in the first place -- to do their bidding to help fracture the Trump-supporting base. That can force people to stay home during the election -- people who are not the slightest bit swayed by media or left wing talking points against Trump. Hell, I'm not even a MAGA guy, but I also tune out of the left when they bash Trump.
Look, bottom line is Trump is not predictable. He flies by the seat of his pants with foreign policy, whereas Democrats have a very obvious playbook put together by "experts", and they're even dumb enough to directly state what their plans will be.
I've compared it before to a poker game. The opponent you hate playing against is the loose-aggressive guy who can literally do anything at any time, but isn't just making mindless moves. Some of his moves are stupid and some are smart, and you have no idea where you are a lot of the time. The easiest opponent is the ABC player who only bets/raises when he has it, and never deviates from a set strategy.
Of course Russia wants the predictable opponent. It's a Democrat faantasy that Biden/Kamala are the masters of great foreign policy which frustrates Russia, and Trump is the simpleton they manipulate.
sigh
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/rus...al-2024-07-09/
druff, please read sneeds post above mine.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
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