***OFFICIAL RUSSIA/UKRAINE WAR*** thread

[Orko]

So victoria Nuland spent 36 years trying to get white countries to fight each other or fight Israel's wars.
She suceeded on both and then tretired, here's her first interview since,
https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...rview-00157408
This question and answer is revealing to her real long term goals,

Question
If Trump wins, and leaves NATO or limits America’s role in NATO, does the alliance fall apart? What happens?

Nuland
First and foremost, America suffers. Because if you look at every single one of the challenges we have globally, even as we make the security commitment to Europe, it is the European countries who have contributed more to Ukraine — on the security side, on the economic side, etc. It is the European countries who have to adapt their policies toward China if you want to have an impact on China’s eagerness to coerce others. It’s the European countries who we need to help fund the Haiti mission, to help defeat terrorism in Africa, and provide prosperity.

Hahaha she just said it.

You would think Haiti and Africa would be the furthest thing from her mind.
She just came out and revealed the game. Europe needs to further impoverish and destroy themselves by funding white on white wars,
fund their own mongrelization and instead use their money to make sure Africa is safe and prosperous.
There it is, wow.

Mark my word, Ukraine will be flooded with blacks and Muslims like every other formerly white country.

[Orko]

Everyone now knows about the Israel lobby but did you know there's a Ukraine lobby?
https://quincyinst.org/research/the-...cutive-summary

Based on an exhaustive analysis of all FARA and LDA documents filed by organizations registered to work on behalf of Ukrainian and Russian clients in 2021,
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this report made a number of key findings, including:

• Nine organizations were registered under FARA to work on behalf of Russian clients in 2021, while 11 were working for Ukrainian clients.

• Those organizations reported making just 21 contacts on behalf of their Russian clients and 13,541 contacts on behalf of their Ukrainian clients.

That's pre war!

[VaughnP]

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[VaughnP]

But guys, Project 2025.

[Orko]

14k Ukranians killed last week, strange how Zelensky has no urgency to end this bloodbath.
You can see from the pre war lobbying Zelensky has no intention of making peace w Russia.

Zelensky and Biden, hey lets do this for 10 years.
Russia has 100 million more people than Ukraine, there's no fucking way for them to win.

[Orko]

Ukraine says they killed 8k Russians last week, i'm sure similar numbers for Ukraine losses. Just a bloodbath beyond all comprehension.
So we have astronomical casualties and Jewish leadership working to keep the war going indefinitely while they profit off various scams.
FYI There are 3 Jews in charge of Ukraine and they have 100% dictatorial power. You see those 3 meeting with various white govts asking for money.
Travelling country to country attending cocktail parties, giving interviews to the media etc.

Alexander Vindman, remember that douchebag. He's in Ireland as an official rep of the USA convincing European leaders that Ukraine must lower
the conscription age to 18 fr 26. He also has a full page feature article in the Irish Times arguing that electing Trump will make the Ukraine war go on for longer.
Just totally full of shit, everything policy they propose is to get as many people killed as possible.

If you do one thing, see how useless the very best armor is vs these cheap chinese drones carrying a tiny explosive.
Abrams tanks and all other armored vehicles are rolling coffins, that's why we're always sending more tanks and armored vehicles.
Those huge armored beasts arrive brand new fr the USA and it gives the Ukranians a false sense of security.


I'd rather be in a t shirt on a quad than be in an Abrams, they're sitting ducks.
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[country978]

RFK jr said that Trump promising to end the war(s) was in itself worthy of his endorsement.

Biden is clearly going to want to "win" in Ukraine before his term ends because he knows if Harris loses its over. Looks like another 6 months of mass death as well as the destruction of what's left of Ukraine.

I dislike Trump the person but I don't know what more the man can do to prove he loves his country.

Kennedy is correct that Trump deserves the vote.

[Orko]

RFK jr said that Trump promising to end the war(s) was in itself worthy of his endorsement.

Biden is clearly going to want to "win" in Ukraine before his term ends because he knows if Harris loses its over. Looks like another 6 months of mass death as well as the destruction of what's left of Ukraine.

I dislike Trump the person but I don't know what more the man can do to prove he loves his country.

Kennedy is correct that Trump deserves the vote.

If he was guarenteed to end the war in Ukraine, we would have to vote for him.
I don't believe him. He's palling around with people like Pompeo.
He might go harder on Ukraine to prove he's not Putin's bitch.

Trump's going to bomb Iran's peaceful nuclear sites, they'll respond by attacking all the US bases in the area. Killing hundreds of servicemen.
Then Congress will pass a war resolution and Israel will be laughing all the way to the bank.
Airliner after airliner of flagged draped coffins will be rolling in daily. Soldiers with ptsd, suicides thru the roof, millions of Iranians klilled and traumatized
Astronomical debt on top of our already astronomical debt.


In the middle of that debacle Trump will pass tax cuts for corporations and billionaires so large it will be tantamount to treason.

Kamala otoh
There's a reason AIPAC hatesa progressives.
If there marital problems between enhoff and Kamala, she may try to be a fair broker.
Besides Obama, time and time again black people have not sold out.
Israel was blindsighted by South Africa's genocide charges.
Jews are talking about it too.

[Orko]

RFK jr said that Trump promising to end the war(s) was in itself worthy of his endorsement.

Biden is clearly going to want to "win" in Ukraine before his term ends because he knows if Harris loses its over. Looks like another 6 months of mass death as well as the destruction of what's left of Ukraine.

I dislike Trump the person but I don't know what more the man can do to prove he loves his country.

Kennedy is correct that Trump deserves the vote.

The ultimate goal of Zelensky and co is NATO v Russia.

The stone cold nuts for Zelensky & co would be to manipulate NATO and Russia to put themselves trillions in debt in order to kill and traumatize each other and reduce each other's country to rubble.
In order to do that they must control the media to an extent that there's not a single anti-war voice allowed. That's why Tucker got fired and now things are full steam ahead.
Of course China will join Russia and all the other countries will choose a side minus Israel.

Country how many times do they have to tell you to your face before the light comes on?

If it wasn't true there would be an avalanche of rebuttals and corrections, there's none.

[Deal]

The lines are collapsing so fast and Russia is moving west faster than ever. What a disaster thinning the force and punching into Russia was. Another 5000 dead and the amount of disabled/lost western equipment is amazing. They may have thought they could capture a nuclear plant, or scared Russia into making a reactionary error of using nukes or something. Neither of those results are on the table, Russia has flooded new troops to the area leaving its other forces in place and its just a matter of time before all the Ukrainians and all the sheep-dipped NATO forces are either dead or captured. Meanwhile Russia is killing it economically, Putin has 80% support and now has the incentive to escalate the punishment.

Anyone really think this will last past the election?

[Avon Barksdale]

The lines are collapsing so fast and Russia is moving west faster than ever. What a disaster thinning the force and punching into Russia was. Another 5000 dead and the amount of disabled/lost western equipment is amazing. They may have thought they could capture a nuclear plant, or scared Russia into making a reactionary error of using nukes or something. Neither of those results are on the table, Russia has flooded new troops to the area leaving its other forces in place and its just a matter of time before all the Ukrainians and all the sheep-dipped NATO forces are either dead or captured. Meanwhile Russia is killing it economically, Putin has 80% support and now has the incentive to escalate the punishment.

Anyone really think this will last past the election?

I was told Ukraine was winning the war like a year and a half ago.

I guess that was all confirmed bullshit like I expected.


What a fucking joke!!!

[garrett]

The lines are collapsing so fast and Russia is moving west faster than ever. What a disaster thinning the force and punching into Russia was. Another 5000 dead and the amount of disabled/lost western equipment is amazing. They may have thought they could capture a nuclear plant, or scared Russia into making a reactionary error of using nukes or something. Neither of those results are on the table, Russia has flooded new troops to the area leaving its other forces in place and its just a matter of time before all the Ukrainians and all the sheep-dipped NATO forces are either dead or captured. Meanwhile Russia is killing it economically, Putin has 80% support and now has the incentive to escalate the punishment.

Anyone really think this will last past the election?

You are a Putin Shill I see

The West is the Best..

[Orko]

The lines are collapsing so fast and Russia is moving west faster than ever. What a disaster thinning the force and punching into Russia was. Another 5000 dead and the amount of disabled/lost western equipment is amazing. They may have thought they could capture a nuclear plant, or scared Russia into making a reactionary error of using nukes or something. Neither of those results are on the table, Russia has flooded new troops to the area leaving its other forces in place and its just a matter of time before all the Ukrainians and all the sheep-dipped NATO forces are either dead or captured. Meanwhile Russia is killing it economically, Putin has 80% support and now has the incentive to escalate the punishment.

Anyone really think this will last past the election?

It's going to last years after the election.
Ukraines going to lower the conscription age, anyone who surrenders will be prisoner swapped and sent back into the meat grinder.
Keep an eye on Poland, the Polish people are marked for death they just don't know it yet. They all are but Poles are given priority and
a neocon has already taken control of Polish foreign policy.


For sure the war will last many years.

[Jayjami]

The lines are collapsing so fast and Russia is moving west faster than ever. What a disaster thinning the force and punching into Russia was. Another 5000 dead and the amount of disabled/lost western equipment is amazing. They may have thought they could capture a nuclear plant, or scared Russia into making a reactionary error of using nukes or something. Neither of those results are on the table, Russia has flooded new troops to the area leaving its other forces in place and its just a matter of time before all the Ukrainians and all the sheep-dipped NATO forces are either dead or captured. Meanwhile Russia is killing it economically, Putin has 80% support and now has the incentive to escalate the punishment.

Anyone really think this will last past the election?

Lol. That is exactly what the US said about Vietnam in 1966.

[limitles]

The lines are collapsing so fast and Russia is moving west faster than ever. What a disaster thinning the force and punching into Russia was. Another 5000 dead and the amount of disabled/lost western equipment is amazing. They may have thought they could capture a nuclear plant, or scared Russia into making a reactionary error of using nukes or something. Neither of those results are on the table, Russia has flooded new troops to the area leaving its other forces in place and its just a matter of time before all the Ukrainians and all the sheep-dipped NATO forces are either dead or captured. Meanwhile Russia is killing it economically, Putin has 80% support and now has the incentive to escalate the punishment.

Anyone really think this will last past the election?

Uneducated boob.

[Deal]

Lol. That is exactly what the US said about Vietnam in 1966.

Lack of media control, lack of financial viability, and desire to engage militarily elsewhere will shut this thing down quicker.
Terrorism against Russia will continue but all out hot war won't. The US will fight hard not to lose the world reserve currency status but they can't keep hot war going in Ukraine.
It might last another year but not 4, especially if Trump wins.
I don't buy into Poland sending their kids in, they all hate Ukrainians now that so many draft dodgers fled to their country. Ukraine is running out of canon fodder, Russia is not.

[limitles]

[Tellafriend]

The US will fight hard not to lose the world reserve currency status but they can't keep hot war going in Ukraine.

unfortunately, this is not true. it's a complicated matter with this administration, though it shouldn't be. this will be the final nail in our coffin. RIP

[Sanlmar]

The US will fight hard not to lose the world reserve currency status but they can't keep hot war going in Ukraine.

unfortunately, this is not true. it's a complicated matter with this administration, though it shouldn't be. this will be the final nail in our coffin. RIP

This popped up on YouTube. Rogan acting like he’s never seen General Westley Clarke before. Deal all hopeful and shit. Makes me feel like everything old is new again… or just plain old.



That Grumman jet order is gonna get delivered son and NO ONE is gonna stop it.

[limitles]