Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post
Taking a snapshot pf Dick Cheney 18 months after 9-11 and right around the Iraq and Afghan invasions is somewhat disingenuous. The country always rallies around political figures initially going into wars. I am not sure your point though. Most people don't give a shit who the VP is, in fact most people can never name them when pressed. Unless there is a shock to the system its either Biden or Harris. The betting markets agree with that. I'd say there is a less than a 10% chance it's anyone else.

Cheney ended his vice presidential tenure as a deeply unpopular figure in American politics with an approval rating of 13 percent. His peak approval rating in the wake of the September 11 attacks was 68 percent.
What poll is this from? How long after 9/11 was his fourth year in office? How unpopular were the Iraq and Afghanistan wars at this time?

I'm not sure why you are having such a hard time understanding that Kamala has way less of a chance than Joe. If Joe is going to drop out she will be pressured into deciding not to take his place. She was one of weakest candidateson either side in the 2020 primaries, the weakest I've seen that was given any platform in my lifetime, and despite what you might think, she has been widely ridiculed among black folks. She still is.