BetCheckBet you red repped me for some reason, but I was not trolling at all
Harry Hollywood clearly has a backstage pass to the entertainment industry, so when you consider Harvey Weinstein and the Epstein flight logs and widespread rumors and sex scandals etc etc..
Its a legitimate question
We can go even deeper down this rabbit hole to weird rituals and other debauchery in Hollywood this is not news, but I’d be very interested to get Harry’s take as an insider
Fave episodes were when Jerry bought a Cadilac for his father, George eating eclair from trash can, papi peeing on his couch, Kramer getting the indian statue lots of other babka bread.
Not a fan of Jerry Seinfeld. One of the things that annoyed me about his show was that he would automatically give himself a super hot date of GF on the show, like he was a Tier 1 baller. In reality, none of those model level women would date him in real life.
Sitcom schlubs all have hot women.Originally Posted by desertrunner
Ray Romano, Kevin James, Jim Belushi, English dude on that shirt show where he was married to Jami Gertz
Well they would because he's rich and famous
I only watched Benson on and off as a kid when it aired. I was a very big sitcom guy in those days (1979-86), but Benson was less popular with the kid demographic for whatever reason. Funny enough I watched a lot of sitcoms regularly at the time which didn't feature many (or any children), such as Three's Company and Alice. I think Benson didn't have tremendous appeal because it was about the government, and jokes about passing bills or PR campaigns just didn't speak to my age group. It was much easier to relate to Jack Tripper having two dates at once, or Mel Sharples yelling "Stow it!" to his waitresses.
For the most part, when I was a kid and teen, I liked watching sitcoms about kids and teens,.
The more adult-aimed sitcoms were ones I was aware of at the time, but came to appreciate later. WKRP in Cincinnati was one of them, as was Benson. WKRP was a better show than Benson, but Benson was pretty solid.
Harry, what did you hear about Michael Keaton and Courteney Cox?
Keaton was 6 years younger than Caroline McWilliams, but 13 years older than Courteney Cox. I see that Keaton started dating Cox in 1990, the same year he divorced McWilliams. At the time, Cox (who was years away from being in Friends) was 26, Keaton was 39, and McWilliams was 45. Keaton had become considerably more famous by 1990, as he was somewhat of a nobody in 1982 when he first got married.
I don't know the story of the divorce or the relationship with Cox, but this screams "famous guy dumps older wife for young actress" to me.
No dude, Seinfeld would rotate multiple different hot women as if his TV character mirrored him in real life. If was so transparent, it was annoying.Sitcom schlubs all have hot women.
Ray Romano, Kevin James, Jim Belushi, English dude on that shirt show where he was married to Jami Gertz
Its funny because thats obvious, but then in real life, he had to settle for his own level and married a Tier 2 at best.
I’m not a Hollywood insider but I’m guessing the audience would generally prefer seeing pretty women whenever possible.No dude, Seinfeld would rotate multiple different hot women as if his TV character mirrored him in real life. If was so transparent, it was annoying.
Its funny because thats obvious, but then in real life, he had to settle for his own level and married a Tier 2 at best.
You don’t appreciate the show was an exercise in absurdist humor? The situations & characters were illiogical and absurd.
This isn’t your cup of tea. It’s ok.
@Harry
I appreciate the response. I get it now.
What is “Hollywood” like when you remove the drama from drama.
There is a lot wrong with this thread beginning with the title. It suggests that Seinfeld's road to stardom had something to do with the classic scripts heard on Benson. Benson will not be remembered for launching SeinfeldNo dude, Seinfeld would rotate multiple different hot women as if his TV character mirrored him in real life. If was so transparent, it was annoying.
Its funny because thats obvious, but then in real life, he had to settle for his own level and married a Tier 2 at best.
And then the Arizona gas station attendant said Seinfeld had to "settle" for his own level in marriage. You said it. You dumb fuck//
POST LESS OR JUST FUCK OFF. You're an idiot.
Back to the author of this thread. You don't have a clue about anyone's path in life.
And you got it wrong in hindsight. You can fuck off as well.
Also, Mission. Another moron. Mission seems to think Seinfeld just waltzed his way through a number one multi year sitcom series as the straight man. The art of a straight man is critical to the act. Equally important. Let's not forget Jerry was one of the main writers of the show. He came into it as an established one man show through his stand up. He had all the skills but was fully aware that this project required an ensemble. That cast had legendary talent.
Its my type of show, I just have to point this one item out because Stenfeld is a douche.I’m not a Hollywood insider but I’m guessing the audience would generally prefer seeing pretty women whenever possible.
No dude, Seinfeld would rotate multiple different hot women as if his TV character mirrored him in real life. If was so transparent, it was annoying.
Its funny because thats obvious, but then in real life, he had to settle for his own level and married a Tier 2 at best.
You don’t appreciate the whole show was an exercise in absurdist humor? The situations & characters were illiogical and absurd.
This isn’t your cup of tea. It’s ok.
I think Harry is paying homage to life paths and the role of chance.
Had Seinfeld been successful as a character actor on Benson perhaps Seinfeld the sitcom doesn’t happen.
Desertrunner would have been spared
Life is indeed so much random chance. I love that stuff.
No. Jerry Seinfeld has a brilliant mind. In no way was he looking for a sitcom career. He admits to being anything but an actor. Seinfeld would have been just fine without SEINFELDI think Harry is paying homage to life paths and the role of chance.
Had Seinfeld been successful as a character actor on Benson perhaps Seinfeld the sitcom doesn’t happen.
Desertrunner would have been spared
Life is indeed so much random chance. I love that stuff.
Think Carlin, Pryor etc., etc., etc. He turned the corporate sitcom on it's head but he would have shone without it.
If you listen to his interviews, he lives for comedy. His lines. His laughs.
Even as I typed the post I was thinking he doesn’t become the head waiter for Tavern on the Green if he becomes a regular on Benson. He had talent and breathed the craft of comedy.No. Jerry Seinfeld has a brilliant mind. In no way was he looking for a sitcom career. He admits to being anything but an actor. Seinfeld would have been just fine without SEINFELD
Think Carlin, Pryor etc., etc., etc. He turned the corporate sitcom on it's head but he would have shone without it.
If you listen to his interviews, he lives for comedy. His lines. His laughs.
Seinfeld has talked at great length about Johnny Carson giving him an opportunity on the Carson Show and what that meant to him and others. How careers were made in 5 minutes on national television.
Lol, Seinfeld had outs.
The Seinfeld talk and Harry made me think of Henry “Bombastic” Bushkim’s book “Johnny Carson”. Kinda random but there was a guy with no drama - he was highly sanitized but he had a mean and unhappy side that few saw. Mommy issues etc. Tremendous period piece. Loved it.
When you discover your next door neighbour is Larry David you must allow for something more than yourself. "Is it Cashmere?"Even as I typed the post I was thinking he doesn’t become the head waiter for Tavern on the Green if he becomes a regular on Benson. He had talent and breathed the craft of comedy.
Seinfeld has talked at great length about Johnny Carson giving him an opportunity on the Carson Show and what that meant to him and others. How careers were made in 5 minutes on national television.
Lol, Seinfeld had outs.
The Seinfeld talk and Harry made me think of Henry “Bombastic” Buskin’s book “Johnny Carson”. Kinda random but there was a guy with no drama - he was highly sanitized but he had a mean and unhappy side that few saw. Mommy issues etc. Tremendous period piece. Loved it.
Close, but no cigar.
You are correct that Michael Keaton's marriage to Caroline Williams broke down because of an affair. However, that affair was not with Courteney Cox. By the time he hooked up with Cox, those two were long separated.
In 1988, Keaton starred in a fairly low budget film called Clean and Sober. This was a mostly well regarded film about a man attempting to recover from drug addiction. Despite its low price tag, it did star Keaton and Morgan Freeman, and was produced by Ron Howard. It made less than $9 million at the box office, and otherwise would not be worth discussing. However, a small part was awarded to a porn actress named Serina Robinson, who you might know from her porn identity Rachel Ryan. Serina scored the part because the role called for her to be naked. She had no previous non-porn acting on her resume. On the set of that movie, Keaton began an affair with her.
After the affair began, Keaton also secured her a role as "Amanda Keeler" in his upcoming 1989 blockbuster Batman. However, before Batman was released, the tabloids got wind of the affair, and reported on it fairly aggressively. This humiliated his wife Caroline, who immediately separated from him. A decision was made at the production of Batman not to credit Selina Robinson for her brief appearance in the film, in order to avoid embarrassment to both Keaton and the production. You can see this segment below. Robinson's appearance in Batman is not widely known, and the production cutting her name from the credits is something especially never reported. Poker Fraud Alert exclusive for you right there!
Where does Courteney Cox come into this? Keaton broke off the affair with Robinson in 1989 after it was publicized.
At the time, Courteney Cox was only known as Alex P. Keaton's girlfriend Lauren on Family Ties. She told a friend who knew Michael Keaton (no relation to Alex P.) that she loved his performance in Clean and Sober. The friend told Keaton, who expressed a desire to meet Cox, presumably because she was 25, pretty, and apparently an admirer of his. However, Keaton was terrified at this would become the latest tabloid fodder, so he requested that instead of going on a date in public, they meet at Cox's house and talk. Cox was happy to have Keaton over, and the two hit it off immediately.
Keaton and Cox began a 6-year relationship at that point. It is incorrectly reported online that their relationship spanned from 1990-1995. In reality it was 1989-1995, but I assume the 1990 was chosen in order to prevent confusion regarding his marriage to McWillians, which was not officially a divorce until that year.
McWilliams never remarried after the divorce, nor was she known to have been dating anyone. I do not know when her multiple myeloma symptoms started. That disease can last a long time before resulting in death, so perhaps she just wasn't physically up to dating for most of the time between her 1990 divorce and 2010 death. It is also possible that the trauma of the tabloid coverage of Keaton's affair with a porn star could have soured her on relationships permanently. She was a nice and classy woman, and she deserved better than that.
I hope this fully answers your question.
I am afraid the answer is not as exciting as you might hope.
There are definitely some predators in Hollywood, though fewer today than before, as many were exposed during the MeToo movement of 2017. Most of the predators were of the casting couch variety, either demanding or implying the necessity of sexual favors from young actresses in order to get roles.
As far as pedophiles go, yes they exist as well, but it is harder to identify them because they tend to operate in secret. Some of them you come to suspect, but it is rare to acquire hard proof. A modern suspected pedophile was Dan Schneider, who was a very prolific producer of Nickoledeon programs. If you google him, you will see evidence of a lot of highly suspect behavior, but not enough to send him to prison. Schneider, by the way, lost a staggering amount of weight, and you would never recognize him these days. I had some interactions with Schneider in his younger years as an actor, and he came off fine back then, but during his time at Nick, there were all kinds of stories about both verbal abuse of underlings and inappropriate behavior with teen stars. With that said, there are pedophiles in all professions where children are frequently present, and I don't think it's more common in Hollywood than those others.
I don't really know about a significant number of satanists, so I can't really answer you there.
If I had to give advice to parents wanting to break their children into show business, I would give one word: Don't. Not only is the life of a child actor very harmful to their emotional and educational development, but you area also exposing them to a dangerous world. I am not so much speaking of pedophiles, but more that you are tossing them into a very adult world during their formative years, and their chance of developing a drug or alcohol problem is significantly higher. That is why I respect Missy Gold's decision to quit at 16. I think she saw the toxicity and realized her only chance of having a normal life was to quit right then. Fast forward 38 years and she is very happy and well adjusted.
Holy fuck; this is like kicking a stupid dog---and not even a large one.There is a lot wrong with this thread beginning with the title. It suggests that Seinfeld's road to stardom had something to do with the classic scripts heard on Benson. Benson will not be remembered for launching Seinfeld
No dude, Seinfeld would rotate multiple different hot women as if his TV character mirrored him in real life. If was so transparent, it was annoying.
Its funny because thats obvious, but then in real life, he had to settle for his own level and married a Tier 2 at best.
And then the Arizona gas station attendant said Seinfeld had to "settle" for his own level in marriage. You said it. You dumb fuck//
POST LESS OR JUST FUCK OFF. You're an idiot.
Back to the author of this thread. You don't have a clue about anyone's path in life.
And you got it wrong in hindsight. You can fuck off as well.
Also, Mission. Another moron. Mission seems to think Seinfeld just waltzed his way through a number one multi year sitcom series as the straight man. The art of a straight man is critical to the act. Equally important. Let's not forget Jerry was one of the main writers of the show. He came into it as an established one man show through his stand up. He had all the skills but was fully aware that this project required an ensemble. That cast had legendary talent.
If you don't like the author of this thread, then don't post in the thread. What's your problem with Harry Hollywood? Is it the fact that he posts interesting things that result in positive feedback and encouraging engagement? What's your angle? So far, I see fake suicide scares, trolling and all but directly begging participants here for attention.
I actually showed you a bit of sympathy in your fake-ass suicide scare thread. I really shouldn't have done that. It's pretty obvious that, even if you actually wanted to, you'd never have the sack to pull the trigger.
I don't think he 'waltzed through' as the straight man; I think he had the easiest acting role of the main four. I wasn't even committed to my position as I used the word, 'Arguably.' I barely understand acting at all and certainly not enough to make a statement like that as if I am presenting a fact. I didn't say that Seinfeld wasn't important to the show; his name is literally the name of the fucking show, if that tells you anything.
With that, nothing I said would suggest that Seinfeld isn't important to the show. Seinfeld's character is absolutely crucial to the show; it's just the easiest character, still just in my uninformed opinion. Could I do as good of a job of acting as Seinfeld did on Seinfeld? No. I'm barely convincing as a human being just trying to play myself. Still, what do you think is easier-to play as the straight man or trying to make a character like Kramer believable?
You said that the cast had legendary talent; I agree with that statement. I'm arguing that, as an actor, Seinfeld didn't have legendary talent, but he didn't need to have it on that show.
I'm also aware that the show was primarily written by David and Seinfeld. I never questioned Seinfeld's importance as a writer. You're just defending against things that I never even said, at this point, and I also don't feel like I was actually criticizing Seinfeld, the person, or the show (except the finale). Quite the contrary, I was defending that nobody should consider him overrated.
Also, who the fuck are you to tell anyone to post less? I've only rarely seen you contribute anything of value, here. I think your posting could improve, though. Let me give you some helpful pointers, from least effective to most effective, for your posting to improve:
1.) Don't jump into a thread with this scorched Earth, insult everybody in thread who wouldn't fellate Jerry Seinfeld, at once, if only he'd present his dick to them attitude. You clearly want Jerry's cock in your mouth; that's fine, I also enjoyed the show, just not to that extent.
2.) Be interesting. Your entire gimmick reeks of a middle school boy trying to get a girl's attention doing the whole, 'Woe is me' thing. Pity engagement. Not only is that problematic in itself, but you're also talking to mostly men, here.
3.) Die of alcohol poisoning. You'd improve so much as a poster here if you'd do that.
There's the attention you wanted, sweetheart, now fuck off.
Don't Tread on Anyone, mothafucka!
i remember when i was in hs
and was dating this girl in a preppy school from the UES and the big gossip was how one of the senior girls was dating Seinfeld. dont think that would fly in todays world without him getting cancelled.
Also tits are real hot actress, kramer banned from fruit bodega, george loses glasses. not that theres anything wrong with that, cardigan sweater, Jerry picking his nose, man lot of hits
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