The question isn't wether the Jews owe the Palestinians reparations, the question is how much?
Idk but it's substantial, 75 years of theft, torture, imprisonment, slaughter terror and now the final solution, genocide.
$1 trillion bare minimum.
The question isn't wether the Jews owe the Palestinians reparations, the question is how much?
Idk but it's substantial, 75 years of theft, torture, imprisonment, slaughter terror and now the final solution, genocide.
$1 trillion bare minimum.
Originally Posted by Orko
You should pay us each $100 in reparations for our wasted time reading your terrible posts.
Anyways
You should pay us each $100 in reparations for our wasted time reading your terrible posts.
Lets talk about US culpability. The US taxpayers are among the biggest victims. I suggest we have an international body freeze the assets of US media personalities and the so
called 'elected' reps who led the deception ie Brian Williams, Maddow, Ted Cruz, the Murdoch's etc.
Same for Britain.
Who else, lets see here hmmm.
The assets of the military industrial complex, and any profits made by their shareholders, sorry SanLamar.
Now it’s $101.Anyways
Lets talk about US culpability. The US taxpayers are among the biggest victims. I suggest we have an international body freeze the assets of US media personalities and the so
called 'elected' reps who led the deception ie Brian Williams, Maddow, Ted Cruz, the Murdoch's etc.
Same for Britain.
Who else, lets see here hmmm.
The assets of the military industrial complex, and any profits made by their shareholders, sorry SanLamar.
I knew 16 years ago that allowing Hamas to rule Gaza was a mistake. I think I said so on NWP at the time. Putting an actual terrorist group in charge of any government is never a good idea, even if you think it solves short term issues.If only life, international relations and war were always so cut and dried. They are not.
Hours after the attack Bibi’s footsie with Hamas was called out
Stupid also has consequences. Hamas is just the leading edge of Israel’s problems.
Those chickens have come home to roost.
However, this was just stupidity, as you said, and not anything evil or oppressive on the part of Israel. And what's done is done. Now it's time for Israel to respond in the manner which both gets vengeance and gives them the best chance of preventing future attacks (especially from enemies). They need to tune out the critics, take care of business, destroy Hamas, and put out the message that anyone who attacks them in the future is going to get similarly fucked up. That's the only language which will work with terror groups.
have your kids teachers poisoned him against israel yet or does that come next year
i figure they wait until at least 3 at my kids day care but you want to hit the ground running on indoctrination
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
while the nuke hit id be pointing out that lebanon invented garlic sauce
using children as props to justify genocide....
I don’t think Netanyahu is especially popular in Israel. He appears stupid and corrupt. I also don’t think most Palestinians support Hamas.
The majority of Jews and Palestinians are just living their lives and would prefer peace. They have no more support or care for their leadership as we do Trump or Biden. We too are just living our lives.
Do I want to support either leadership as an American? No. Both sides are responsible for atrocities. Both sides are repugnant. But it has nothing to do with me as an American. History has taught us our attempts at intervention (particularly in the Middle East) more often then not leave the people involved worse off.
Ask a Ukrainian if he or she would have preferred more effort by Zelensky or the US at the peace talks in Turkey in ‘22. Are they pleased the US was involved and quashed the talks? Is anyone pleased with the results?
Sadly, I expect results similar to Ukraine for both Israel and Palestine. It’s gonna be a shit show for years. Much of it self inflicted. The US has no wisdom to offer and will serve to only embolden Israel and fuel the conflict.
Do I invest in military industrial companies. Yes, I’m an American. I want to put gas in my boat and enjoy a second home. If I was in New Zealand I’d raise sheep, I suppose. When in Rome and all that.
You just can't imagine how much blood and treasure lost because of Netanyahu.
It all started when he intentionally provoked the assasination of Rabin. He did that in order to torpedo a peace deal that likely would of worked........
He's an all time top 10 douchebag for all of humanity.
Just as your average Israeli or Palestinian is a decent family person so too is your average Iranian. Lindsey Graham might advocate nuking Iran but he has to appeal to those and those companies who are going to contribute to his PAC.You just can't imagine how much blood and treasure lost because of Netanyahu.
It all started when he intentionally provoked the assasination of Rabin. He did that in order to torpedo a peace deal that likely would of worked........
He's an all time top 10 douchebag for all of humanity.
Rick Steves is a white bread travel journalist and his stuff aired on PBS for over a decade. In a typical half hour 10-15 minutes would be spent (wasted) touring churches and museums. Nevertheless, I had a peculiar love for his travel pieces. He did a piece on Iran 14 years ago that was personally influential. Iranians are just living life but cautious of Western influence and interference. For obvious reasons (shout out CIA)
US involvement rarely helps and is ordinarily huge fail.
You seem an inquisitive sort, Orko. I think you are one of very few who would appreciate this. It is 14 years old. I just watched most and will finish but it ages well. The Israel deal inevitably comes up even a decade and a half ago.
The piece about his visit to Iran that was actually broadcast might be behind a paywall of something. It’s worth a look.
more american failure. but look at our "leaders." little wonder. we are/will get what we deserve, it just isn't on our time table.
So Netanyahu calls up 300k civilians to serve at a cost of an estimated $230m/day (virtually shutting down the economy). We gonna the backstop Israeli economy too (Ukraine).
What exactly are the new rules of the unlimited American printing press?
‘Splain things to me Nikki and Binden
Reagan & William Casey (CIA) fund the the Afghan Mujahideen in the ‘80’s in the hope they would fuck with the Soviets during their Afghan invasion. Billions of dollars back when money had value (no deficit).
CIA funded and trained the Mujahideen and one of the Mujahideen factions would go on to become the Taliban and our friend Bin Laden. It’s like Reagan & Casey CIA were. running a terrorist minor league
Reagan’s nefarious and often illegal fucking around in the Middle East really was a blight on his legacy. It all comes back to bite the world in the ass.
With the proper nurturing and encouragement you never know who the terrorist stars of tomorrow might be.
As always, thinking the US can successfully operate as the puppet master is idiotic. We (you) never learn from history.
Never saw Rambo III myself. Heard it is a hoot to watch with the benefit of hindsight.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
I can't blame them too much for this.Reagan & William Casey (CIA) fund the the Afghan Mujahideen in the ‘80’s in the hope they would fuck with the Soviets during their Afghan invasion. Billions of dollars back when money had value (no deficit).
CIA funded and trained the Mujahideen and one of the Mujahideen factions would go on to become the Taliban and our friend Bin Laden. It’s like Reagan & Casey CIA were. running a terrorist minor league
Reagan’s nefarious and often illegal fucking around in the Middle East really was a blight on his legacy. It all comes back to bite the world in the ass.
With the proper nurturing and encouragement you never know who the terrorist stars of tomorrow might be.
As always, thinking the US can successfully operate as the puppet master is idiotic. We (you) never learn from history.
Never saw Rambo III myself. Heard it is a hoot to watch with the benefit of hindsight.
In 1980, the primary concern of the US was still the Soviets, and the Afghanistan matter was a huge thorn in the USSR's side.
The thinking at the time was that anything resulting in more stress for the Soviets will hasten their downfall. And it worked. By 1991, things really did crumble, and the USSR was no more. I realize that the Afghanistan operations were just a small part of that, but it all added up.
Did it come back to bite the US in the ass when bin Laden turned on the US? Sure. Was this foreseeable? Well, it was definitely a risk.
But the greater sin came from sitting by and letting it develop to the point to where it could actually harm us. Unfortunately, modern Democratic administrations have been reactive instead of proactive on foreign policy. It's always, "We don't want to take action until something happens to us", rather than, "Let's prevent bad things from happening by taking care of problems before they really get bad." They are also hesitant to anger enemies which are already at peak US anger, which to me is such a bizarre line to take.
bin Laden was telling everyone who would listen in the '90s that he was gearing up to attack the US homeland, and nobody did anything about it. That was the great failure in all of this.
Prior to the October 7 attacks, according to a widely-cited poll conducted by the Arab Barometer, a large majority (67 percent) of Gazans said that they had no trust in the long-standing Hamas-led government. Nearly three-quarters said that there was corruption in the government.
Another pre-October 7 poll conducted by the Washington Institute similarly found that a clear majority (70 percent) of Gazans said they’d prefer the Palestinian Authority to assume responsibility from Hamas—though the same poll showed that a smaller majority (52 percent) still had a somewhat favourable opinion of Hamas.
However….
Subsequent polling however seems to find broader support for Hamas and its tactics among the Palestinian population. A recent survey of Gaza and West Bank Palestinians by the Arab World Research and Development (AWRD) group found that more than 75 percent of respondents said that they support “the military operation carried out by the Palestinian resistance led by Hamas on October 7.”
The same poll found that a large majority of respondents (85 percent) rejected the idea of co-existence with Israel including a two-state solution. This finding conflicts with the pre-October 7 poll by the Arab Barometer which found that 54 percent said that they supported the two-state solution outlined in the 1993 Oslo Accords. The competing findings may be explained by different methodologies or the evolving circumstances in the region.
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