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    this is about as pathetic as it gets for my doyers

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    are we blaming magic johnson yet todge for his inability to tweet this could factor into our pitching

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    Quote Originally Posted by lol wow View Post
    this is about as pathetic as it gets for my doyers
    This isn’t just bad in a Dodgers context. This playoff performance will likely be recorded as the worst playoff performance in the history of baseball.

    Lance Lynn lasted 2.2 innings and that was the longest any Dodger pitcher lasted in the series.

    13 runs in 14 outs for the starters.

    Mookie and Freddie and the rest of the offense. Where do you start? Awful.

    This isn’t a story of first round bye or baseball variance or whatever crybaby casual observation you may hear. This was as bad as anyone has ever seen.

    Andrew Fraudman is going to drop a half billion on a guy who can’t pitch. How does this inform your understanding of the Dodger problem?

    I’m telling you this isn’t as fun as Dodger bashing used to be cause I think I’m not in the minority any more.

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    Obviously Mookie and Freddie not hitting was a killer.

    Obviously the horrendous starting pitching by the Dodgers -- worse than everyone feared possible -- was a killer.

    But there was more to this failure than just that.

    The overreliance on analytics is a killer in the postseason. What would analytics have had to say about a guy who could barely walk being put in to pinch hit against Dennis Eckersley in a crucial 9th inning spot, in the '88 World Series?

    Postseason managing is about riding momentum, going with the hot hand, avoiding the cold hand, and yanking the pitchers who clearly don't have it, before they can do too much damage.

    Every year we keep seeing Roberts doing a masterful job managing the regular season, only to make dumb decisions (or have those decisions dictated to him by Friedman) in the postseason.

    Among the fails this game:

    - Not starting Ryan Pepiot instead of Lance Lynn. The young Pepiot was by no means a lock (look at how wild Bobby Miller was), but he was a much better choice than Lynn, who had become a fat HR machine this year. While Lynn started off okay in his Dodgers stint, he was terrible for the past month. It is not at all surprising that he allowed 4 home runs, as he allowed 44 in the regular season.

    - Not pulling Lynn after the 2nd HR. It was clear that he was melting down. He had escaped some trouble in the 2nd, and those 2 HR in the 3rd were a clear sign. This wasn't like having faith in your ace. This was Lance fucking Lynn, and we've seen this tons of times before with him. Get him out. Indeed, those two subsequent HR were the difference.

    - Pinch hitting with Austin Barnes. Why would you ever use Barnes as a PH, when he's the worst hitter on the team? Over 178 AB, he hit .180, had a .496 OPS, and just 2 HR. He's a rally killer, and that's exactly what he did.


    The Dodgers weren't going to win this series scoring 2 runs per game, but they basically gave away this game, rather than putting up a real fight.


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    Mookie Betts yucking it up with the opponent standing on second base when he’s down several runs.

    Doing the stupid Freddie Freeman wave when you are down 6 runs.

    Bryce Harper would never do that. He’s a Michael Jordan/Kobe type stone killer. There are no stone killers wearing Blue.

    There is something wrong with the playoff culture. There is something wrong with the way the team PREPARES for the playoffs. They are never ready and motivated.

    No one has ever figured out Kershaw’s playoff psychology or issues with preparation. Kershaw spoke about it prior to his outing. He “cared too much” in years prior, he said. He will care less now or some such nonsense.

    THERE IS A COACHING ISSUE in the way the Dodgers prepare for the post season. The post season is not an extension of the regular season. It is different and unique.

    Bob Geren, Mark Prior, Dave Roberts and the person most responsible Andrew Fraudman all need to be removed in a house cleaning.

    “In Andrew Friedman we trust.” You gotta explain to me why.

    Post season is pitching and Friedman failed. He usually fails with bullpen construction and deadline acquisition (he makes none). This year the bullpen was pretty good. He failed with starting pitching. The organizational approach to max effort pitching is pure fail.

    I really don’t think Friedman cared this year. He was fixated on landing Ohtani for another regular season triumph.

    Dave Roberts, Mookie and Kershaw are all going to the regular season hall of fame. They will. I don’t care.

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    BnP showing up to trot out the bye teams’ fail trope.

    The kids on the O’s weren’t ready for the bright lights and demands of the playoffs. They will learn from this experience. Nice regular season. Thanks for playing.

    Houston beat the Twins ✅

    The Diamondbacks were better than the Dodgers and it wasn’t even close.
    Better pitching. More focused approaches at the plate. The Dodgers were chasing outside the zone for some reason. They are usually very very disciplined. The back half of the lineup is just typical .200 trash.

    Philly and Braves. Braves pitching becomes more of an issue post season and is getting exposed. Philly is no joke. Talk about variance? Philly is right back where they were last year. What variance?

    Houston vs Philly in WS. Gosh that’s really random. Casuals are idiots

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    Look at sally and todge just talking ball

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Obviously Mookie and Freddie not hitting was a killer.

    Obviously the horrendous starting pitching by the Dodgers -- worse than everyone feared possible -- was a killer.

    But there was more to this failure than just that.

    The overreliance on analytics is a killer in the postseason. What would analytics have had to say about a guy who could barely walk being put in to pinch hit against Dennis Eckersley in a crucial 9th inning spot, in the '88 World Series?

    Postseason managing is about riding momentum, going with the hot hand, avoiding the cold hand, and yanking the pitchers who clearly don't have it, before they can do too much damage.

    Every year we keep seeing Roberts doing a masterful job managing the regular season, only to make dumb decisions (or have those decisions dictated to him by Friedman) in the postseason.

    Among the fails this game:

    - Not starting Ryan Pepiot instead of Lance Lynn. The young Pepiot was by no means a lock (look at how wild Bobby Miller was), but he was a much better choice than Lynn, who had become a fat HR machine this year. While Lynn started off okay in his Dodgers stint, he was terrible for the past month. It is not at all surprising that he allowed 4 home runs, as he allowed 44 in the regular season.

    - Not pulling Lynn after the 2nd HR. It was clear that he was melting down. He had escaped some trouble in the 2nd, and those 2 HR in the 3rd were a clear sign. This wasn't like having faith in your ace. This was Lance fucking Lynn, and we've seen this tons of times before with him. Get him out. Indeed, those two subsequent HR were the difference.

    - Pinch hitting with Austin Barnes. Why would you ever use Barnes as a PH, when he's the worst hitter on the team? Over 178 AB, he hit .180, had a .496 OPS, and just 2 HR. He's a rally killer, and that's exactly what he did.


    The Dodgers weren't going to win this series scoring 2 runs per game, but they basically gave away this game, rather than putting up a real fight.

    There’s a reason Texas is still alive. They have Bruce Botchy at the helm.

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    After the last 20 years, the Twins winning a series (and 3 total games in the postseason) is almost like winning it all. Beating Houston basically required winning Lopez's start (they did) and Gray's (they did not, Gray first inning meltdown) then stealing 1 of the other 3 (they did not). Ah well. Tough to beat that lineup when their most disappointing hitter all year (Abreu) all of a sudden looked like prime-Abreu.

    Twins should be favorites in that shitty division again next year. But holy shit the hitters need a trip to one of those magic German blood cycling centers or something. The Buxton DH-only plan to keep him healthy resulted in.....85 games before same knee problems kicked in. His body is more glass than water at this point. Correa with a foot problem all year that he played through, but sucked. Lewis tossed his hat in the ring as a true star player...he has already torn his ACL twice and has had other random ailments.

    Getting 150 games from all three of them 100% healthy and thats a lineup core that will contend with anyone. I highly doubt that will ever happen.

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    Imagine a World Series of Texas vs Arizona. Ratings blockbuster obv

    No matter which way this shakes out, it's going to have fail ratings. Best case ratings scenario will be Houston vs Philly.

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    The Dodgers really are an absolute disgrace

    LOL swept by Arizona diamondbacks? Not a competitive series, outclassed

    I seriously hope they do not get Ohtani there is no organization that deserves him less

    He should go to the Phillies

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    thats the kind of tough talk we needed after game 1 thank you earv

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    Braves center fielder Michael Harris has made some extremely clutch catches both times double plays

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    Quote Originally Posted by lol wow View Post
    thats the kind of tough talk we needed after game 1 thank you earv
    A tradition of mine is to tune in to LA AM570 after a Dodger playoff loss. It’s like a suicide hotline for hours.

    Last night some engineer left the station in “game status” so anyone outside of LA couldn’t listen to the post game call in.

    I feel unsatisfied

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    sports talk radio is so great im jealous you get petros i have the 8 sirius channels but its not petros in la

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    Quote Originally Posted by lol wow View Post
    sports talk radio is so great im jealous you get petros i have the 8 sirius channels but its not petros in la
    iHeartRadio on your phone son but connect to car radio so you get those kickers bumpin’

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    yea literally never doing that what kind of loser are you

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    you get petros when ur in la or you don't get him and he starts to fade out when you pass palm springs

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