Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
Cliffs : This is a machine that you collect wilds and they have to hit at a certain point. Matt gets into this machine for….over 300K at about $1125 a spin! I’ve had some 5K losses in my day. I’ve seen my friend lose 140K on mostly tables. But I have never seen anything like this.

Matt talks about how as the wilds are approaching a “must hit” he expects to hit a bonus and get a certain amount back. That comes true for the most part but, I won’t spoil anything else.

First of all…fucking crazy video. This guy really does walks the walk. But I’m hoping someone with slot knowledge can explain something to me. Obviously you need to be doing this with other people. As you are upside down in the machine and it’s reaching its “must hit” and you run out of money to feed the thing…you obviously need to somehow keep control of the machine.

But what if Matt does run out of dough and it’s going to take some time? Let’s say he’s not a YouTuber and just some whale feeding the machine. Then some other whale says I have the money and want to play. How long can someone hold the machine without playing it? That seems like it can run into some major problems. Not to mention if it’s supposed to hit at 100 I’m guessing it can just be stuck on 99 for an eternity.

Haven't thought about it or done it in quite awhile but casinos used to routinely shut down machines for players so they could go eat. There was a 4 hour limit.

I personally would never put myself in the position of it being possible that I run out of money on a play. I hate that kind of exposure and avoid it like the plague.

It's obvious that the guys in the video are not AP's. No AP would touch numbers that low. AP's make money on Regal Riches because they have an elevated understanding of the game.

Here's some general numbers for when an AP will enter the game:

An AP will play if he finds purple on 64 or higher. Green is 85, Yellow is 110. The numbers have some flexibility according to what you know about the casino. If I were on a CZR property, known for low payback, I would want the numbers to be a few units higher. But if I were in an Osage casino in Oklahoma I would play a couple of numbers lower.

But these guys started with a 53/67/72. Not even close to being an advantage play.

I collected a lot of stats on Regal. The payoffs for purple75, green100, yellow125 are consistent and highly predictable.

purple= 70 units
green= 140 units
yellow=210 units

Since I know what the average payoff is I want to keep the cost under that or else it don't make money.

Regal has a huge drop. Generally about 40% per spin....until you hit something. So these guys not only played low numbers they ran bad on the purple. It took 500 spins to run the purple up to 75. That's well over twice as much as it takes on average to run from 53 up to 75.

They were betting $1125 per spin and got dropped 263K on those 500 spins. That's like a 45% drop without hitting anything. So the purple payed 61 units which is within the realm of the 70 unit average.

From there they spun the green89. That number was definitely advantage at that point but I knew they were in for way to much money to pull out of the hole. The expectation on a green100 is about 160K. They were in 300K when they hit it. The green actually returned 148 units which is within the realm of the 140 average.

The takeaway from this play is the cost to run that green89 up to 100. It cost 50K and got a 166K payoff. The purple57 payed 28K. So if they hadn't hit that they would have still been in only 78K for that 166K payoff.

You make good money on the regals if you stick to good numbers. And CZR players that like to run their card up to Diamond, this is a good way to run your points up with no cost, even make a profit. You could even play the game a few numbers lower to put the game around breakeven just to get the points.