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    Chrissy finally raises from his slumber to post a waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa randos try to FB messenger call me, waaaaaaaaaa and "I'd never do that".

    No, but he almost definitely did cold calling back in his MLM days or some variation on that theme.

     
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      BedWetterBettor: Begging for $299 every day on YT is perfectly normal behavior for Rich People... but Dead broke douchebags message and call random victims looking for easy money... let that sink in!
    When faced with a difficult decision, ask yourself "What would Micon do?", then do the opposite.

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    BedWetterBettor: Begging for $299 every day on YT is perfectly normal behavior for Rich People... but Dead broke douchebags message and call random victims looking for easy money... let that sink in!

    Even bettr
    "dead douvhe bag haters message and call random victims looking for easy money: Rich people invite their chums to a birthday booty bash, and leave their bankroll at home (hurr hurr!)"
    When faced with a difficult decision, ask yourself "What would Micon do?", then do the opposite.

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    Some absolute gold from Bird Brain as he describes having to bet the 8th marty. Even refers to the whole thing as “retarded” even though he won that bet. Total of close to 5K wagered (on a $10 table) to win $275. Says that live dealers are hard to figure out whereas on the electronic games you can find the trends more easily. :-)

    Chrissy actually comments on this post.

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      zealanddonk: the reply against Chrissy was hilarious

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    A broken clock is right twice a day. I agree with Chrissy that calls on FB messenger are some boolshit.

     
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      zealanddonk: This would be like a calendar, chrissy is right once a year

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    I noticed he had a new video up as of 3 minutes before I went to Youtube.

    Stupid "bankroll management" video, that is not important...stupid content.

    But. This may confirm a move. He is on his laptop in what is presumably his home. But where is the home? Well, his HP laptop shows 94 F as the temp. Chicago is not that high and hasn't been in the past few days...I know, I checked:

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    Now notice that the 3-panel wall mural from Chicago is "installed".

    So either he's in his new place in Las Vegas, in a Vegas "bunker" while he finds a new home to infest for 6 months in LV, or he is a psycho and has pasted these panels of "artwork" in his Vegas hotel room to make us think he's back in Chicago!

    Anyway, that is one Colt Dolt!

     
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      BedWetterBettor: The placement of the Vegas Framed Printout was in the hallway, nowhere near his kitchen table or furniture set up. This is a new set up as he would not be able to sit comfortably and have his laptop on a table at One Chicago.
      
      TheRivers: He didn’t have a table in front of that mural in Chicago. Definitely has re-located.
      
      Tariq Reed: Good catch! And he recorded his video at 10:43pm, so definitely not 94 degrees in Chicago that late at night. I live in Vegas, so that's definitely the temperature here.
      
      1dollarboxcar: nice detective work !!!
      
      zealanddonk: It is possible he used the laptop in Vegas and forgot to set the time back, to trick the haters. With that said, very likely hes back home in Vegas where its too hot for him and NVB

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    Chrissy in today’s video: “The smaller the favorite the bigger the bet you should place on them. Only a stupid amateur would bet the same amount on every game.”

    Chrissy 11 days ago:

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    We’ve also seen him place much more than $1000. on a -250 team recently. The idiocy is priceless.

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      Tariq Reed: Also @28:21 in today's video he says he became an "official millionaire" in 2021, so clearly all the previous claims of millionaire status in 2019 and 2020, etc. were lies. And he's still lying in 2023.
      
      zealanddonk: He also claims paralys are for suckers, despite bragging about them in a recent video
      
      BedWetterBettor: 2021, also the same year said ‘Millionaire’ forgot his bankroll at home and begged his 7 chums for money to play with on his Bday!

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    Today's nonsense:
    Sports betting Chrissy's number #1 secret to win everyday feels like half his videos are sharing these secrets and he keeps changing them)
    607 subscribers at time of viewing:

    Spoiler This is one of Chrissy's most idiotic videos and that includes his hour long "ultimate fudgepacker comeback Spinny session #35"
    The entire premise of this nonsense is you pick 4 favourites, 1 underdog, and only win 2 bets: you still make a loss for the day, but hurr hurr, its a smaller loss due to Chrissy magic
    This truly is one of his worst videos: he is selling people on the idea you will lose, but if you monkey the numbers, you'll lose less, but you'll still lose.
    And thats how you win every day, by losing.
    There is a good chance you will sugger bwain damge if you watch this moe dan wonce.


    Chrissy in a blue hoody in the thumb nail.

    Screenshot opens with Chrissy with a sports betting webpage open: assumed to be BOL.

    Bottom left has temp as 94F

    In defense of chrissy and this idiocy, I'm confident he used to have the weather and clock set to Vegas when he first moved to texas to "trick the haters".
    Its also possible since this is the first laptop video we have seen in quite some time, he took it to Vegas, set it to Vegas and either accidently or purposefully left it set to Vegas settings.

    first few minutes is rambling about how american sports betting works
    Why America uses this system is beyond me, the nZ and probably most of the rest of the world makes a lot more sense.

    4m05 Chrissy is aiming this nonsense at beginners
    "Hurr hurr, people ask if they win, do they also get their bet back hurr hurr?"
    It wasnt that long ago Chrissy didnt know this, and was factoring it into his results discussion as well.

    4m35s Apparently bankroll management is more important than knowing anything about sports, teams, betting, or sports betting.

    6m15s Chrissy goes full idiot, never go full idiot "Hurr hurr, for just $399 you would have gotten all 14 of my picks over the last 2 days"
    Except no evidence if any of those picks were any good AND if you have seen any of his recent videos, win percentage is meaningless.

    He even brags that no other <whatever it is this idiot does> person bets on more games than him.
    Shouldnt he also be doing parlays because as we saw in the parlay video, if you are betting on those individual games and are confident as an expert, also bet them as parlays.

    7m20 Chrissy now shows us 5 bets you could make, but not the ones he is going to make because hurr hurr, join the chums club

    Chrissy being the idiot he is, is showing how to make bets for the win you want, which is ok. He then clicks the trashcan to get rid of the bets which would be confusing for new people

    blah blah blah
    13m Chrissy starts rambling about a big favourite the day before, that lost
    Per BWB, you can be sure Chrissy bet on that big favourite.

    13m05 blah blah blah most sports bettors (who are amateurs and not professionals according to Chrissy) place the same sized bets.
    13m40s Chrissy claims Parlays are for suckers, despite bragging about parlays a few videos ago
    It must be tiring being the hamster in Chrissy's skull, trying to keep him breathing and walking, and then randomly chaotically forgetting the nonsense he claimed as divine truth less than a month ago.

    14m ramble ramble, Chrissy starts a hypothetical "lets say we win 2 of the 5"
    In what world does it make sense to ramble about winning 2 and losing 3 when he picked 4 favourites???
    Despite winning 2 in his example, he still loses $1800

    Remember kids, for just $399 a month, you can get losses like this on the daily, not monthly, but daily.

    16m25 Chrissy takes extreme joy in stating that anyone who bets the same size sports bets is a looooooooooooooooooooooooooser and you dont know how to do first grade mathematics
    Despite this video to this point showing five different sized bets.

    16m40 Chrissy is extremely happy with himself because he thinks he is helping people.

    21m Chrissy is still rambling about bet size, and doing that poorly.
    He stops to give us the old weigh ego and bank balance and claims broke people have big egos, they think they know it all ( Chrissy is projecting about himself here ) and you cant teach them anything (see previous bolded comment).

    23m Massive favourites get beat quite regularly
    Only when Chrissy is shotgunning 10 favourites in a day on a parlay.

    26m20: Chrissy runs his numbers again from the earlier example: if you have 2 wins, 3 losses, you still lose money, but its less than the previous loss, and thats how you win every day, with 40% win rate and losses, thats a win in Chrissy land

    28m Chrissy claims he became an official millionaire two years ago...as opposed to a lying one??


    Some idiot in the comments said "goat with the best picks" who somehow missed in Chrissy's fantasy nonsense he still lost 3/5 games and lost money.

    This one is hard to rate: on the one hand it is truly idiotic and a complete waste of time. On the other hand, it shows that Chrissy is getting desperate and is an idiot.

     
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      Tariq Reed: Without CM's bankroll guidance you lose $1,855 per day ($677,000 per year). With his guidance you lose only $328 per day ($119,000 per year). So he's actually saving you $558,000 per year for only $399/month!!! Folks! Do you see the incredible value?
      
      Phantom Limb: Dummy missed the BetOnline ad halfway through the vid. Slippin Chrissy
      
      Forum Wars: Thanks ZD
      
      1dollarboxcar: thanks for doing these ZD... i always enjoy them !! :)))))
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    Loads to unpack in the last 24-48 hours…

    Starting with Bird Brain’s laughably bad video.

    He stutters and stammers as bad as mumbles in a video. He can’t remember if he bought in for $500 or $1000 or how much he placed each losing bet as he struggles to get the words out!

    Weren’t these bozos keeping a pen and pad handy & writing down Every result once upon a time? Oh well, guess that “trend” is no longer their friend!

    So Bird Boy can’t tell if he has $1000 or less left from his “Huge Bankroll” of $5800 and says Martingale works because he got to the 8th bet and Won! Therefore it couldn’t possibly go wrong 8 times in a row! Forget that you just lost 7 in a row and the prior results didn’t help predict the 8th spin! No way you can lose One more time, No way Hurr hurr ask Zach Jones!

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    As you can see, old Bird Shit for Brains looks super relaxed and calm after wagering his entire massive $5800 bankroll on one session and getting lucky…. Err I mean proving the haters wrong!

    I don’t know why he and Chrissy don’t just come out already and have Gay sex with each other. Bird Brain’s desperate attempts to gain Chrissy’s love and affection are so blatant he might as well lay spread eagle in the back of his truck and offer Chrissy another Ride!

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    And back to the Loser of the day, One Kyle Prescott, Scott C., Dave, Kyle Adam’s, Kirk and Chaos Minute Man himself, Squirtstopher Mitchell!

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    Proven by the fact he’s too much of a pussy to show bet slips for the last 4 days, because ya know documentation beats conversation and he shows his results “every single day”… derrrrp!

    The Bloat definitely lost yesterday on big favorites like the Yankees, Braves and his Favorite the Cubs! But ya know he won One time over a week ago, so that means he wins every day!

     
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      Forum Wars: Lot for ***us*** to unpack. Unlike those 6-mo. at a time short term rental dwellers! His Kraft Mountain places costs a lot more to rent now by the way!
      
      1dollarboxcar: :)
      
      zealanddonk: Lucky he won the 8th cos Chrissy said if you lose 9 in a row, gambling isnt for you

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    Wanna avoid getting wiped out by the Martingale? No problem. Just don’t start playing until the first three iterations of the losing side of your bet have already happened. :-)


     
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      zealanddonk: Reminds me of "hurr hurr wait for triggers, hurr hurr"

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    Folks folks folks the buffonery is just never gonna end with little Squirtstopher, the Colt Dolt reject loser hasn't quit his fitness challenge/Ball Squats just yet (uh uh uh 1,2,3 let's go...sexy uhh) & now he's at the Palms winning & putting them outta business with his parlays lol

    Druff don't get his YouTube nuked just yet, at least wait for another couple of months his videos have been quite bananas lately

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    Little Kyle so scared of ZD and our reviews ripping apart his stupidity he posts his lame videos at 3 AM Vegas time!

    First is Ball Squirts, I mean Squats.

    Appropriate title seeing as how the Squirt May very well be a Squatter when his 6 month rental term is up in Vegas!

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    But this was just the appetizer folks, like our Minute Man always says “Annnnnnnnnnd we got this entree!”

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    He admits that he’s “back in Vegas”, trying to make it seem he ran back for some reason. However we know the truth is he left Shitcago and is scrambling for a new rental place. You’d think a multi millionaire since 2021 could swing that? Yet this is the same broke loser that begged his father in law to co-sign for a Lexus that same year!

    He tell us he had to go to Palms because the Bitchell’s were stuck in Traffic for an hour! And he couldn’t place his bets at the local casino of his choosing… if only there were some sort of APPlication that allowed you to place bets from anywhere!?!?

    He claims they pulled off in their “rental car” to the closest casino which was Palms! I guess a Leased Chevy Tahoe owned by Chase Bank is a rental car technically!

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    And of course being the Honest, Transparent and Humble person he is, the Colt Goat shows us his big bet for today! $100 on a Parlay… bahahahahahahahahahaha! Yup the same Dolt who just days ago said Parlay bets are for suckers and Never bet more than a 5 leg parlay is boasting about a $100 bet on a 6 leg parlay!!

    So Mr. Only Bet Even Money Wagers and don’t chase Big Payouts shows us a whopping $900 profit and Nothing else! Meaning he was too broke to bet big on the 6 games, put in this shit parlay as desperation and is too much of a pussy to show All bets EVERY single Day!

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    That’s right folks, you too can Lie, Cheat and Fraud the 2 idiots who salivate at your every command by paying this midget Masturbator $399 a month!

     
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      Tariq Reed: "How much money do you think I made on these 6 games individually?" He claims "thousands" but my guess is ZERO unless he proves that he actually bet on them.
      
      TheRivers: No chance he bet on the games individually. He’d be all over that in showing you that he did. He was in lottery mode yesterday.
      
      zealanddonk: Its sad how he keeps ripping into people who place sucker side bets and parlays as being broke douce bag haters, and yet here he is, with $100 and a dream

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    good thing the YT channel was slow played... he gets to reel in suckers on his website from free advertising it in his videos... he gets to portray himself as a good sports bettor.... by posting proof of a 6 leg parlay late last night and that has been a few times now... i / we know that he cherry picks what he shows on social medias...

    but the suckers don't realize this... AND LINE HIS POCKET !!.... and i don't really give a fuck what you think of me by writing this out again... IT WAS A VERY BAD MISTAKE TO NOT NIP THAT CHANNEL IN THE BUD WHEN IT FIRST APPEARED 2 months ago !!! and if you're gonna try to come back at me with snard remarks... careful now cause i will embarrass you.... and you aren't invited to my rant anyways ....

    NOW RANT IS OVER...

    so that fucker posted the parlay video at 3am his time... WTF... when does this guy sleep or does he ??? is he that jacked up on cocaine ??!!!

    his 6 regular bets must of been small amounts... cause he didn't show them and if they were for good amounts we know he would of shown them.... but he did say something like ... " just imagine how much i made on them 6 bets when i didn't parlay them ".... lol ... but fails to show them...

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    so let's just pretend that he is staying somewhere decent on the strip... i am guessing he is spending about a $100 per night night or less especially if he is using an app like Expedia where you can rack up reward points pretty fast and get hella discoints on rooms... ( i know cause this is what i do ) so probably around $100 per night ...

    monday through thursday... give or take... and then on the weekends he goes to some low end hotel cause the strip will be too expensive for him but he probably still has to pay around $100 at the low end hotel on the weekends... and i think we seen proof of that in that one video the other day looked very low endish....

    anyways $100 per night x 30 days = 3k ... very doable for him since he was paying 10 k a month or at least he probably paid 10k for a few months and then he stiffed them the last 2-3 months thus the eviction... but i think that 3k a month in hotels is very doable for him... he must have enough suckers to support this and his gambling habit ... could you imagine the pain he would be in ( probably homeless ) if that YT channel was taken care if right away... sorry but i did have to say it again.... but anyways.... now his YT channel is picking up more steam and he survives longer cause you know he is gonna reel in more idiots and suckers because of his last video...

    he never should of been afforded this situation to begin with....

    sorry again for beating a dead horse... but i now believe my rants are truly over.... )))

     
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      TheRivers: He is NOT staying on the strip. He moved into a new place. That mutual was on the wall behind him in the last video (unless somehow it was a virtual background)

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    Chrissy is just proving his point, that he is a dead broke douche bag hater with poor bankroll management, by betting on small parlays and then winning them.
    When faced with a difficult decision, ask yourself "What would Micon do?", then do the opposite.

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    Today's nonsense "Sports betting Chrissy wins again (parlay bet)"
    5m37s of nonsense, shot in Vegas.
    612 subscribers at time of viewing.


    This is potentially more idiotic than yesterday's nonsense but fortunately a lot shorter

    In yesterday's video at approximately 13 minutes Chrissy claimed parlays were sucker bets for idiots, or thereabouts, why is he bragging about a parlay win today?

    25s Chrissy tells us he is close to going undefeated today.
    As we know only an idiot would ask what Chrissy's winning percentage is.

    1m20 Chrissy shows us his ticket, a 6 team parlay.

    2m50 Chrissy asks if he made over $1k on this $100 parlay (wow, 9x profit, thats like jackpot mentality isnt it?) then how much do you think he won on his individual bets?
    Absolutely no idea because yesterday's epically stupid video was "hurr hurr, randomly pick bet sizes hurr hurr"

    3m Chrissy keeps telling us he is the greatest and laughing like an idiot when he says it
    Is he on something other than hopium?
    Is he doingthe ol fake it till you make it?

    3m40 Chrissy now tells us the story he alluded to earlier
    "We are not staubg here at Palms casino, thats the absolute truth "

    Since hes claiming its an absolute truth, it must be true, more true even than all of those "God's honest truth" rebuke satan

    This story is starting to get stupid
    So, they have a rental car (has he sold the lexus replacement already? is it back in Chicago hurr hurr?) and whatever boring story that goes nowhere.

    4m10s Chrissy now claims they were stuck in traffic for an hour which hilariously is why he moaned about Chicago and went to Vegas, hurr hurr.

    5m10 Chrissy realises his story needs more idiocy so he claims he told the cashiers "hurr hurr, never bet here before and I won, so I'll defintiely be back hurr hurr
    Here's me thinking Chrissy wins his sports bets due to excellent bankroll management AND studying sports.
    Turns out you just need to go to the right casino.

    Since its sports betting, did he tip the cashiers?

    Chrissy even ends with "good luck, timing, coincidence, I dont iknow what it is, but you know what I like to say its goatlifebaby"
    by his own admission, he has no idea what he is doing, and credits luck as a likely factor

     
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      BedWetterBettor: Forgot about the part where he thought the casino had something to do with him winning. THAT is why he lost his ass on sports bets in Chicago, Oklahoma, Texas, and Ohio! He went to the Wrong CASINO to place SPORTS bets, lol!
      
      1dollarboxcar: thanks ZD :)
    When faced with a difficult decision, ask yourself "What would Micon do?", then do the opposite.

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    2020: Covid19
    2021: SMIFlorida and some sort of shit coins for $50k
    2023: 22nd Feb 4th Dec Youtube channels removed
    2024: Dustin Morgan wins Chrissy's $1000 contest: May 3rd another channel gone.

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    I originally thought that moving into the tout space was a smart move for Fistopher Squirtchell (ok, that one didn't work....they can't all be diamonds, folks)

    So....seeing all the other pond scum in the tout space flashing far more expensive lifestyles and a lot more than a couple of bands and with testimonials (that are likely fake but at least they HAVE people willing to lie for them) there is no way our pet retard is going to last very long. Much like blackjack, there are way too many people out there who understand how betting works and Pissy is a rank amateur and not even slightly convincing with his strats.

    This will be short-lived. Back to baccy and spinny...

     
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      zealanddonk: Chrissy just isnt very good at a lot of these things because they require consistency, talent, good scripts (hurr hurr) and being likeable. He is good at luring chums in, then hates himself, and lashes out at them

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    can someone link Bird Brains FB page please ... thanks in advance...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1dollarboxcar View Post
    can someone link Bird Brains FB page please ... thanks in advance...

    https://m.facebook.com/nineballchris

    His email is nineballchris2@yahoo.com or nineballchris2@aol.com

    Happy Hunting!

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    I like how he literally could show all tickets and prove this claim, but he’s too much of a pussy to show all bet slips this week because he lost Big on the Braves and Yankees! Lol, the life of a lying Masturbating moron!

     
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      Forum Wars: +++ so true

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    Fixed the beginning of Chrissy's post from FB for ya, BWB:

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      1dollarboxcar: :)

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    Chrissy forgot to tell us how many nose surgeries he had due to balls to the face.

    Also, how long before he starts ranting and crying that The Palms cheated him?

     
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      BedWetterBettor: Nah see, Palms is his NEW 717th favorite casino. He wrote the other ones down on an index card and he wrote down his sports bet wins on a Whiteboard, so you know they really happened!
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