So coronavirus is definitely going to kill a few of us.

[Dan Druff]

I realize that we have some trolls here, but if anyone's interested I will be happy to bet up to $10,000 that we pick a doctor I've never seen before (and don't know), fully disclose all of my health history and habits, and ask if I'm "healthier than average" or "less healthy than average" for a 50-year-old American male.

I'll take the "healthier than average" side.

I'll make a bonus sidebet with Sloppy Joe that drinking Pepsi doesn't make any noticeable change in my COVID risk or vaccine effectiveness.

Get at me.

[dwai]

I realize that we have some trolls here, but if anyone's interested I will be happy to bet up to $10,000 that we pick a doctor I've never seen before (and don't know), fully disclose all of my health history and habits, and ask if I'm "healthier than average" or "less healthy than average" for a 50-year-old American male.

I'll take the "healthier than average" side.

I'll make a bonus sidebet with Sloppy Joe that drinking Pepsi doesn't make any noticeable change in my COVID risk or vaccine effectiveness.

Get at me.

[devidee]

5 shots in 2 years is not a vaccination program. It's an IQ test.

Druff, you are failing.

[country978]

I realize that we have some trolls here, but if anyone's interested I will be happy to bet up to $10,000 that we pick a doctor I've never seen before (and don't know), fully disclose all of my health history and habits, and ask if I'm "healthier than average" or "less healthy than average" for a 50-year-old American male.

I'll take the "healthier than average" side.

I'll make a bonus sidebet with Sloppy Joe that drinking Pepsi doesn't make any noticeable change in my COVID risk or vaccine effectiveness.

Get at me.

Devidee keeps posting very persuasive arguments against the vaccine and nobody challenges him so I assume he's not a spreader of disinformation. I don't trust anymore that there is a benefit to the vaccines for people in your situation that outweighs the risks that Devidee keeps warning us of. At some point or another you're going to want to stop all these injections. no? Or is it the point that you'll take them all your life or for x number more years? If you go out and you're amongst people you're highly likely to be exposed. Repeatedly and probably for the rest of our time. So unless its your plan to take regular injections for the rest of time don't you at some point have to trust God's will and just move on from covid?

[Sloppy Joe]

I realize that we have some trolls here, but if anyone's interested I will be happy to bet up to $10,000 that we pick a doctor I've never seen before (and don't know), fully disclose all of my health history and habits, and ask if I'm "healthier than average" or "less healthy than average" for a 50-year-old American male.

I'll take the "healthier than average" side.

I'll make a bonus sidebet with Sloppy Joe that drinking Pepsi doesn't make any noticeable change in my COVID risk or vaccine effectiveness.

Get at me.

LOL at these absurd propositions. Might feel good to fudge stats to plop yourself as average health but a shitty diet paired with lugging around a cool 40 in excess weight is a dangerous game brother.

Drinking Pepsi makes you fatter. More fatty = more risky for bad COVID outcomes. Easy win.

[Dan Druff]

I realize that we have some trolls here, but if anyone's interested I will be happy to bet up to $10,000 that we pick a doctor I've never seen before (and don't know), fully disclose all of my health history and habits, and ask if I'm "healthier than average" or "less healthy than average" for a 50-year-old American male.

I'll take the "healthier than average" side.

I'll make a bonus sidebet with Sloppy Joe that drinking Pepsi doesn't make any noticeable change in my COVID risk or vaccine effectiveness.

Get at me.

LOL at these absurd propositions. Might feel good to fudge stats to plop yourself as average health but a shitty diet paired with lugging around a cool 40 in excess weight is a dangerous game brother.

Drinking Pepsi makes you fatter. More fatty = more risky for bad COVID outcomes. Easy win.

There wouldn't be any fudging of stats. Anyone who bet with me would be guaranteed that I would provide a full and complete history to the doctor, including the recent gout issues. I would also be honest about my diet, and my height/weight would be apparent in the exam.

I'm not trying to make the claim I'm top 10% in health of 50 year olds, or anything like that. Top 50% isn't a high bar to clear. If you think that a 50-year-old with a BMI under 30, and with zero major health problems and zero surgeries or overnight hospital stays in his lifetime, is "below average health", then you're insane. But if you'd like to bet the opposite way, definitely let me know.

[Sloppy Joe]

LOL at these absurd propositions. Might feel good to fudge stats to plop yourself as average health but a shitty diet paired with lugging around a cool 40 in excess weight is a dangerous game brother.

Drinking Pepsi makes you fatter. More fatty = more risky for bad COVID outcomes. Easy win.

There wouldn't be any fudging of stats. Anyone who bet with me would be guaranteed that I would provide a full and complete history to the doctor, including the recent gout issues. I would also be honest about my diet, and my height/weight would be apparent in the exam.

I'm not trying to make the claim I'm top 10% in health of 50 year olds, or anything like that. Top 50% isn't a high bar to clear. If you think that a 50-year-old with a BMI under 30, and with zero major health problems and zero surgeries or overnight hospital stays in his lifetime, is "below average health", then you're insane. But if you'd like to bet the opposite way, definitely let me know.

Gout, LPR, weight, BP issues, stubborn colds, frequent flyer ER miles, poor diet, sedentary lifestyle etc.

We're factoring in the mental health issues as well?

[Dan Druff]

There wouldn't be any fudging of stats. Anyone who bet with me would be guaranteed that I would provide a full and complete history to the doctor, including the recent gout issues. I would also be honest about my diet, and my height/weight would be apparent in the exam.

I'm not trying to make the claim I'm top 10% in health of 50 year olds, or anything like that. Top 50% isn't a high bar to clear. If you think that a 50-year-old with a BMI under 30, and with zero major health problems and zero surgeries or overnight hospital stays in his lifetime, is "below average health", then you're insane. But if you'd like to bet the opposite way, definitely let me know.

Gout, LPR, weight, BP issues, stubborn colds, frequent flyer ER miles, poor diet, sedentary lifestyle etc.

We're factoring in the mental health issues as well?

Then you should want to take the bet. Would be easy money for you.

Regarding the mental health issues, fortunately you can easily relate, given the frequent pills you're poppin' to keep the lifelong anxiety at bay.

[dwai]

Gout, LPR, weight, BP issues, stubborn colds, frequent flyer ER miles, poor diet, sedentary lifestyle etc.

We're factoring in the mental health issues as well?

Then you should want to take the bet. Would be easy money for you.

Regarding the mental health issues, fortunately you can easily relate, given the frequent pills you're poppin' to keep the lifelong anxiety at bay.

[PROUDBOY MAGA 2024]

I realize that we have some trolls here, but if anyone's interested I will be happy to bet up to $10,000 that we pick a doctor I've never seen before (and don't know), fully disclose all of my health history and habits, and ask if I'm "healthier than average" or "less healthy than average" for a 50-year-old American male.

I'll take the "healthier than average" side.

I'll make a bonus sidebet with Sloppy Joe that drinking Pepsi doesn't make any noticeable change in my COVID risk or vaccine effectiveness.

Get at me.

[dwai]

wait a minute though Druff, didn't you literally have to take a 1 hour test flight and a xanax to make sure you could fly without having a full on meltdown?

you talking about anyone else's anxiety is kinda ironic

[Kalam]

Gout, LPR, weight, BP issues, stubborn colds, frequent flyer ER miles, poor diet, sedentary lifestyle etc.

We're factoring in the mental health issues as well?

Then you should want to take the bet. Would be easy money for you.

Regarding the mental health issues, fortunately you can easily relate, given the frequent pills you're poppin' to keep the lifelong anxiety at bay.

I am with Druff here, especially if we are comparing him to the average American. But this is more a statement of how unhealthy the average American is than Druff's health. I wouldn't put him in the top 50% compared to Japanese men his age.

[The Boz]

If Druff thinks he is in the top 50% of people in their 50’s there is no reason to get the 4th shot.

Shocked he is actually considering it. More shocking is that he is concerned about the WSOP. I thought 99% of the public is, and has been for the past year or more, living their life in situations like that daily or weekly. Casinos, theaters, sporting events, concerts, now airplanes without masks, etc.

I guess he lives in a different world than most. As for Covid, note all those now saying they have it are because they are still being tested all the time. As someone who has proudly never taken a Covid test, who the hell cares who has it? And if the vaccine isn’t stopping it from being spread, why all the testing other than the financial aspect of promoting them.

Sorry folks Covid is and has been a minor issue for a long time. Wake up.

[Sloppy Joe]

Gout, LPR, weight, BP issues, stubborn colds, frequent flyer ER miles, poor diet, sedentary lifestyle etc.

We're factoring in the mental health issues as well?

Then you should want to take the bet. Would be easy money for you.

Regarding the mental health issues, fortunately you can easily relate, given the frequent pills you're poppin' to keep the lifelong anxiety at bay.

Lol.

Fortunately I don't have to keep a psychiatrist on retainer in case my feelings get hurt on the internet and I need documentation.

Probably should sit a few plays out, bub.

[BetCheckBet]

Forget about the 10k. Druff and jewdonk both in California right? Set them up with non partisan physician and have them battle it out on who has the better physical. Once the agreement has been made by both parties we can open this up to all sorts of side bets.

[NaturalBornHustler]

Druff take an extensive blood test and post the results. These are just random numbers that would in no way infringe on your privacy, but would be very telling.

Tell me how many push ups you can do.

Tell me how much cardio or physical activity of any kind you do.

Tell me how much trash you eat every day.

LOL at BMI as a measure of anything, it means nothing other than you aren't morbidly obese. Great job.

And I'm not trolling I'm just giving you the truth. You have no idea how "healthy" you aren't....until you actually are. And you aren't.

You are a weak sedentary 50 yr old man who eats like trash. It's easy to beat the game up til this point doing that, aint so easy when you start playing in the high roller room from age 50 and on where every decision could make you or break you. And you will start breaking, just give it some time.

[devidee]

A simple indicator: is your chest 10 inches (minimum) bigger than your waist?

If not, you aren’t healthy.

[Dan Druff]

wait a minute though Druff, didn't you literally have to take a 1 hour test flight and a xanax to make sure you could fly without having a full on meltdown?

you talking about anyone else's anxiety is kinda ironic

That was in early 2019, following a super-horrible span of 3 months where my anxiety/depression were at about the highest level possible. The test flight was part of the process of making sure everything was "normal" enough to resume my life the way it was before. A few months later, I flew cross country with no issues. I'm obviously not denying big time anxiety/depression issues in 2018, but Sloppy Joe revealed at one point that he has an ongoing anxiety problem, so it was pretty weak for him to be on his high horse mocking that.

[Dan Druff]

Druff take an extensive blood test and post the results. These are just random numbers that would in no way infringe on your privacy, but would be very telling.

Tell me how many push ups you can do.

Tell me how much cardio or physical activity of any kind you do.

Tell me how much trash you eat every day.

LOL at BMI as a measure of anything, it means nothing other than you aren't morbidly obese. Great job.

And I'm not trolling I'm just giving you the truth. You have no idea how "healthy" you aren't....until you actually are. And you aren't.

You are a weak sedentary 50 yr old man who eats like trash. It's easy to beat the game up til this point doing that, aint so easy when you start playing in the high roller room from age 50 and on where every decision could make you or break you. And you will start breaking, just give it some time.

I just took blood tests after the gout flare-ups in both December and March. Everything in normal range except for uric acid. This includes A1C which can indicate a pre-diabetic stage. Again, completely normal.

Sorry to disappoint you and others who like to imagine me as having one foot in the grave. People tend to be very behavior-oriented when it comes to health. They want to assume that your health is mostly a function of your lifestyle and diet. It's not. Aside from major abuses (alcoholism, drug abuse, heavy smoking, obesity), most of it is based upon genetics. That's how lifetime fatass Tommy Lasorda lived to 93, and health-conscious Luke Perry croaked in his early 50s.

For example, I bet my cholesterol level is better than 90% of this forum. I'm not on any cholesterol meds, and never have been. Just naturally stays low. I know people who exercise every day and rarely eat anything with saturated fat, and they're still needing cholesterol meds. Genetics.

I haven't run totally pure for health genetics. I do have a number of annoying problems which I inherited, including chronic tension headaches which come about 250 times (!!) per year. If colonoscopies weren't invented (they weren't done until the 1990s), I might have croaked in my mid-50s of colon cancer, and I'll be doing one every three years until I die. But I've totally dodged major health issues up until now, whereas many my age have had surgeries or ongoing major/semi-major health issues dogging them.

This whole discussion spawned from your claim that I'm not an average 50-year-old, so therefore my COVID risk is higher. I'm still willing to make that $10k bet (or any reasonable amount lower if $10k is too much) that my health profile is better than at least 50% of all 50-year-old men in the US.

[Sandwich]

Forget about the 10k.

Druff said "up to $10,000". Someone should bet him 1 penny and go thru all the rigmorole of finding a doctor and disclosing of records, just for the lols.