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Ok, but what is your comment regarding the fairness or unfairness of trans women in women's sports?
It's gonna take a few more years to get the balance right. Since 2011 i think they've limited competing after 12 months of hormone therapy that depletes testosterone and increases estrogen with a certain testosterone cap. They likely need to tweak it more for individual sports and possibly in some cases it's impossible to let trannies compete with women.

At the top level men are 10-13% ahead in the closest sports. After 12 months of testosterone depletion even with the current rules they're fairly close.

Some random runner that transitioned in her 20s was doing mile in 4.50 and in the same event men's winner got 4.10 or something like that. Anyways 20ish months before transitioning he was doing 1500m in 3.50. The difference between that tranny and the men's winner was still more than world record. So that's more or less fine. With running without testosterone you're just left with bigger frame, less muscle and few other things. Men rely way more for a certain level of test than women with athletics. Women have other hormones that do more and i think they also lack some testosterone receptors. They build their muscles differently.
Secretariat's autopsy revealed he had a much bigger heart than other horses. Consequently he could run faster for longer distances than other horses. It's the same with humans.

Deplete the testosterone all you want but it won't shrink the heart and lungs of males. Males will always be able to run faster and longer than females.