Youtube Slot Community and SlotLady

[Dan Druff]

I'm curious if Sarah/Victor are reading this thread. If they are, I welcome them to register accounts here and join the conversation.

I wouldn't put a lot of faith into reports by anonymous trolls that Victor is abusing Sarah. Lots of false shit is written on the internet, usually for attention and/or revenge. Until we see actual evidence of this, it's just noise.

I will say that the "Jenny" crap is a very bad look. Even if Sarah doesn't want to admit they chose the "Jenny" name so as to not put off the simps that a male was involved behind the scenes, she can at least admit that Jenny was Victor, and it was just a pseudoname he chose to stay anonymous. The refusal to address the matter in her response video, and the subsequent "Jenny is Jenny" statement in the comments section, really just screams "You can't trust aything I say".

I actually don't begrudge Sarah/Victor for the way they did their channel. Obviously having Sarah play the slots was a much bigger attention-grabber than Victor doing so. I don't really give a shit if Victor was organizing the whole thing, or even whose money was at stake. Sarah was really playing the slots (and later other games) for real money, so that's all that matters.

However, now that Victor has been publicly brought into the picture, and now that the "Jenny" thing has been unraveled, it's time for them to just come clean, and be more genuine. Right now we're getting the attitude of, "This is a slots channel, my personal life is none of your business", which is a crap answer, because her personal life involves the other human being featured on the channel, who was misrepresented as a female chat moderator for years. Once Victor became part of the channel, her relationship with him became very relevant to the viewers. Her flippant, dismissive attitude about the matter is very off-putting.

[Dan Druff]

Okay, I decided I'm going to cover this on Poker Fraud Alert Radio tonight.

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Anyway, when I post it to the archives, I'll give you guys a time stamp to listen to my segment. I hadn't covered SlotLady before, but I think it's time.

[ReformDorm]

I'm curious if Sarah/Victor are reading this thread. If they are, I welcome them to register accounts here and join the conversation.

I wouldn't put a lot of faith into reports by anonymous trolls that Victor is abusing Sarah. Lots of false shit is written on the internet, usually for attention and/or revenge. Until we see actual evidence of this, it's just noise.

I will say that the "Jenny" crap is a very bad look. Even if Sarah doesn't want to admit they chose the "Jenny" name so as to not put off the simps that a male was involved behind the scenes, she can at least admit that Jenny was Victor, and it was just a pseudoname he chose to stay anonymous. The refusal to address the matter in her response video, and the subsequent "Jenny is Jenny" statement in the comments section, really just screams "You can't trust aything I say".

I actually don't begrudge Sarah/Victor for the way they did their channel. Obviously having Sarah play the slots was a much bigger attention-grabber than Victor doing so. I don't really give a shit if Victor was organizing the whole thing, or even whose money was at stake. Sarah was really playing the slots (and later other games) for real money, so that's all that matters.

However, now that Victor has been publicly brought into the picture, and now that the "Jenny" thing has been unraveled, it's time for them to just come clean, and be more genuine. Right now we're getting the attitude of, "This is a slots channel, my personal life is none of your business", which is a crap answer, because her personal life involves the other human being featured on the channel, who was misrepresented as a female chat moderator for years. Once Victor became part of the channel, her relationship with him became very relevant to the viewers. Her flippant, dismissive attitude about the matter is very off-putting.

Excellent points.

I was reading some of Sarah's replies to people and 1 stuck out so I'll post it.

"I have my own personal struggles, as we all do. Have I always handled “haters” in the best way possible? No, and this hasn’t been a recent change. There are definitely very old livestreams of me getting angry about trolls. I am someone who wears their heart on their sleeve, and that can be a double-edged sword. I will not get into every single problem that I have both on and off the channel as that’s my personal life and not for YouTube. I hope that clears things up."

I think it's obvious at this point she is completely overwhelmed and as you have said Todd, really doesn't want to participate anymore.

Also I remember her commenting to someone a month or so ago(or could have been Victor) that they know about your site and have read this thread. So she is definitely reading this. I hope you can convince them to join.

[JeffDime]

Also I notice Sarah is answering a lot of comments pretty much non-stop from yesterday to now. She picks and chooses which comments she wants to respond to but she is constantly checking the comments. Interesting.

When you really watch EZ’s video he really is not delving into much that is apparent from afar. He did show the corporation “receipts,” but didn’t give any information that would be considered an intrusion into their personal lives. I think EZ is entertaining and I like his shtick and the whole tea spilling thing is pretty funny.

The one mistake he made was pinning that guy’s comment. It was long, personal & creepy. He exercised poor judgement. He seems like a sharp enough guy to at least know not to pin that comment. To his credit he did take it down. It’s not his responsibility to comb through every comment. Each YouTube creator handles their comments the way they see fit. But I would actually agree with Sarah that pinning a comment is a bit of an endorsement. It’s kind of like a retweet on Twitter.

I do believe Sarah is kind of a nerdy, somewhat introverted & shy person by nature. That is just my read. She doesn’t come off to me as someone who really wanted to be famous. This is the rub. YouTube is largely a personality driven medium, hence the name “You” Tube. With the platform she created a lot of negative shit will come her way. Some admittedly from me on this forum. Seems to me she’s not wired to handle all the negative stuff and gets extremely defensive.

This can happen, particularly to someone who doesn’t seek fame. It all kind of just happened. Credit must be given to the creation of Slot Lady. But she wasn’t prepared correctly or no longer has the capacity to deal with the negativity that has come her way in a suitable matter. That is clear from her reaction to EZ’s Tea video. Which as I said, really wasn’t anything any YouTuber her size shouldn’t be prepared to handle.

She either made that video because she just couldn’t help herself or there is more to the story. If there is more to the story, she would of been better served either getting it out herself or trying to contact EZ and see if he was going to run with it. By more to the story I am talking about “public” stuff, not personal bullshit we all go through.

The problem is everyone basically draws their own line and makes their own judgement where the line of suitable for public consumption ends, and it becomes an intrusion into someone personal life just for the sake of sensationalism. Everyone is playing by their own rules on the internet and moving the goal posts as they see fit. It’s the new Wild West, but much safer behind our computers.

I would agree that if what you saw was for real than that would be very bad. That will come out and frankly I am skeptical because something like that would be hard to hide. People are going to recognize them.

But just seeing something in YouTube comments means absolutely shit 0.0000 for me. That’s not even a “where there’s smoke there is fire” situation for me. Someone can go to my little channel right now and type I’m a murderer/rapist whatever, etc. So I think it’s extremely important to not jump the gun on anything based on YT comments.

[PositiveVariance]

I rarely look forward to an upcoming YouTube video, but I actually am looking forward to EZ’s next video on the Sarah/Victor Drama. Since Sarah said that he said nothing that wasn’t already known - it will push EZ further “Into his vault” lol to bring out the evidence. I do feel in his last video that he was holding back on information that he may have had but didn’t want to go full force. Also, to Sarah, if this stuff was already known why were you on the verge of crying and so visibly upset?

I have to give it to Sarah and Victor for being able to keep their relationship a secret for almost 4 years. If they didn’t decide to present Victor on the channel this summer, it would most likely still be a secret.

Another thing, if a girl is not in a relationship with a guy, when asked if “their a couple” a female will usually immediately make it clear in one way or another that she is not with him. Woman hate when people assume that when they are out with a dude or what not and people ask if that is her boyfriend, they immediately shut down the idea that the male is NOT her boyfriend and will clarify exactly who he is (Brother, friend, ect.). But Sarah did not do this. Which is highly suspicious. Guys on the other hand often like it when people ask if the female they are with is their girlfriend. A guy usually won’t immediately shut down the questioner as to the girlfriend status, he may smile or say maybe, or joking ask her “are you my girlfriend”? in a flirtatious manner unless the girl is a OOMPA LOOMPA. Even Oompa Loompa’s need some lovin’.

[ReformDorm]

Also I notice Sarah is answering a lot of comments pretty much non-stop from yesterday to now. She picks and chooses which comments she wants to respond to but she is constantly checking the comments. Interesting.

When you really watch EZ’s video he really is not delving into much that is apparent from afar. He did show the corporation “receipts,” but didn’t give any information that would be considered an intrusion into their personal lives. I think EZ is entertaining and I like his shtick and the whole tea spilling thing is pretty funny.

The one mistake he made was pinning that guy’s comment. It was long, personal & creepy. He exercised poor judgement. He seems like a sharp enough guy to at least know not to pin that comment. To his credit he did take it down. It’s not his responsibility to comb through every comment. Each YouTube creator handles their comments the way they see fit. But I would actually agree with Sarah that pinning a comment is a bit of an endorsement. It’s kind of like a retweet on Twitter.

I do believe Sarah is kind of a nerdy, somewhat introverted & shy person by nature. That is just my read. She doesn’t come off to me as someone who really wanted to be famous. This is the rub. YouTube is largely a personality driven medium, hence the name “You” Tube. With the platform she created a lot of negative shit will come her way. Some admittedly from me on this forum. Seems to me she’s not wired to handle all the negative stuff and gets extremely defensive.

This can happen, particularly to someone who doesn’t seek fame. It all kind of just happened. Credit must be given to the creation of Slot Lady. But she wasn’t prepared correctly or no longer has the capacity to deal with the negativity that has come her way in a suitable matter. That is clear from her reaction to EZ’s Tea video. Which as I said, really wasn’t anything any YouTuber her size shouldn’t be prepared to handle.

She either made that video because she just couldn’t help herself or there is more to the story. If there is more to the story, she would of been better served either getting it out herself or trying to contact EZ and see if he was going to run with it. By more to the story I am talking about “public” stuff, not personal bullshit we all go through.

The problem is everyone basically draws their own line and makes their own judgement where the line of suitable for public consumption ends, and it becomes an intrusion into someone personal life just for the sake of sensationalism. Everyone is playing by their own rules on the internet and moving the goal posts as they see fit. It’s the new Wild West, but much safer behind our computers.

I would agree that if what you saw was for real than that would be very bad. That will come out and frankly I am skeptical because something like that would be hard to hide. People are going to recognize them.

But just seeing something in YouTube comments means absolutely shit 0.0000 for me. That’s not even a “where there’s smoke there is fire” situation for me. Someone can go to my little channel right now and type I’m a murderer/rapist whatever, etc. So I think it’s extremely important to not jump the gun on anything based on YT comments.

Yeah good stuff Jeff

I remember watching one of her vids when she was back in Canada and I think she opened up a bit(shocker because she almost never talks about anything in her personal life) and told someone in a livechat that she was a chemist or graduated from a University in Canada as a scientist or something related to science. I found that fascinating. I would love to know the story of how a girl who graduated with a degree in chemistry with almost no experience or interest in gambling became slotlady. I am of course just guessing but she probably met Victor, started to date him, fell in love and he as a degen gambler got her mixed up in his idea to be the face of his new youtube gambling channel he wanted to get off the ground. Just a thought lol.

[ReformDorm]

As of 40 minutes ago(about 2am est) Sarah is still answering the who is Jenny question by typing "Jenny is Jenny" in her comments section smh.

She isn't helping herself at all.

[PositiveVariance]

Sarah/Victor have clearly deleted any negative comments as well as anything that doesn’t fit their narative. I don’t see anything that is very critical of the COUPLE. The worst comment I see is, “I don’t think you should have made this video”, but then they will usually say something positive about Victor/Sarah in the same comment, so they leave it in there since they can’t let a partially good comment by a simp go to waste. Almost 1,000 comments and nothing negative? Literally batting a thousand! She wouldn’t be crying her eyes out if there wasn’t some truth to EZ’s video. If she had 1,000 out of 1,000 people on her side she would not be upset over one video by a creator whos channel makes videos in the slot genre focusing on the “drama aspect” a very niche sector with limited opportunities to begin with. She is lucky she made it to almost 200k subs before there was a mildly critical video of her. She’s currently getting drilled in the comments about things she doesn’t want to answer/can’t answer. But you WONT see the comments because it’s easier to pull a Christopher Mitchell and delete them. They are filtering them very closely. Many creators of very large channels do not read their comments. Not because they don’t have the time, but due to the criticism. It’s better to have someone else read and respond to comments from a business point of view. Someone that doesn’t have an emotional stake in the outcome.

[ReformDorm]

Sarah/Victor have clearly deleted any negative comments as well as anything that doesn’t fit their narative. I don’t see anything that is very critical of the COUPLE. The worst comment I see is, “I don’t think you should have made this video”, but then they will usually say something positive about Victor/Sarah in the same comment, so they leave it in there since they can’t let a partially good comment by a simp go to waste. Almost 1,000 comments and nothing negative? Literally batting a thousand! She wouldn’t be crying her eyes out if there wasn’t some truth to EZ’s video. If she had 1,000 out of 1,000 people on her side she would not be upset over one video by a creator whos channel makes videos in the slot genre focusing on the “drama aspect” a very niche sector with limited opportunities to begin with. She is lucky she made it to almost 200k subs before there was a mildly critical video of her. She’s currently getting drilled in the comments about things she doesn’t want to answer/can’t answer. But you WONT see the comments because it’s easier to pull a Christopher Mitchell and delete them. They are filtering them very closely. Many creators of very large channels do not read their comments. Not because they don’t have the time, but due to the criticism. It’s better to have someone else read and respond to comments from a business point of view. Someone that doesn’t have an emotional stake in the outcome.

I don't know how to comment on your post like Jeff did so I will also agree with him, good eye. She and Victor are notorious for deleting anything critical of them. During their livestreams the slightest criticism or questioning them in any form they ban you and delete the chat post. This mod Claudia they use now deletes them in a second.

[Dan Druff]

I did a pretty long segment about them this morning on my show, playing much of the EZ Life Slots video, and all of the SlotLady response.

I feel like I was fair to both sides, and I gave some advice to them at the end.

When I post the archives later, I'll post the timestamp to listen to it, and maybe someone can bring their attention to it. I think they're totally handling this the wrong way by covering the situation up and "preventing drama". The drama is here. Time to face it. The good news is that they didn't do anything that bad -- just were a bit deceptive for awhile regarding Victor. All they have to do is give something resembling the truth behind all of this (which we already know, for the most part), and the drama will be over.

They didn't do anything illegal, and no one got scammed or got hurt. Admitting to deception by omission done for the sake of growth of their channel isn't giving up a lot. The days of implying to simps that Sarah is single are over. Time to just do this shit as a couple, and open about it. If the simps don't like it, then fuck 'em. That's the best Sarah/Victor can do at this point.

Also they need to just admit Victor was Jenny. This is embarrassing how much effort they're putting in to suppress this obvious situation.

[lck2000]

I noticed ACA now has "©️All uploads are my intellectual property. You do not have permission to re-use any part of them without my written consent." in the description of each video.

Not sure if it was always there or a move now so that if EZ uses any clips (or anyone) she can try to copyright strike him and get his videos taken down.

Can you just claim "copyright" though and say no one is allowed to use this? Last I knew YouTube allows people to use clips of other videos under fair use if they are commenting on it or reviewing it. I'm guessing one of the first things they did was report his video and just try to get YouTube to take it down, which apparently didn't work. Nice to see his video has comparatively the same amount of views as her response even with substantially less subs.

Last random comment, I had kept an eye on her Patreon member numbers since it's public. At its height it was just over 120 I believe, started falling when she took the break, fell to about 80ish.... and now is just over 60. Sinking ship.

[JeffDime]

I noticed ACA now has "©️All uploads are my intellectual property. You do not have permission to re-use any part of them without my written consent." in the description of each video.

Not sure if it was always there or a move now so that if EZ uses any clips (or anyone) she can try to copyright strike him and get his videos taken down.

Can you just claim "copyright" though and say no one is allowed to use this? Last I knew YouTube allows people to use clips of other videos under fair use if they are commenting on it or reviewing it. I'm guessing one of the first things they did was report his video and just try to get YouTube to take it down, which apparently didn't work. Nice to see his video has comparatively the same amount of views as her response even with substantially less subs.

She has had that written in her description and so does EZ for a long time. When I’m checking out a YouTube channel one of the first things I do is check the normal “cut and paste” description template they use below their videos. This will tell you a bit about their angle. Do they have merch, patreon, what other ways are the soliciting money, etc.

With the few videos I have done I will put the whole doctrine of fair use in my description. I don’t think it makes any difference. But the scammer I was critical of in my videos first got me a copyright strike for using clips of his in my videos. For a big channel like Slot Lady I think she is mainly putting that warning in their as a deterrent. You can bet your ass the first thing she did was submit a copyright claim against EZ for using her clips.

She would do this because copyright claims are processed quickly. Pretty much any other reporting will take time. EZ, I’m sure figured she would do this and that is why he used very short clips of Sarah’s video. Fair use is somewhat subjective, but it would of been a real stretch for YouTube to give him a copyright strike.

I don’t know for sure Sarah tried this method, but I am over 90%. YouTube made the correct decision and she had to go to Plan B. Which was mostly a horror show.

[ReformDorm]

I did a pretty long segment about them this morning on my show, playing much of the EZ Life Slots video, and all of the SlotLady response.

I feel like I was fair to both sides, and I gave some advice to them at the end.

When I post the archives later, I'll post the timestamp to listen to it, and maybe someone can bring their attention to it. I think they're totally handling this the wrong way by covering the situation up and "preventing drama". The drama is here. Time to face it. The good news is that they didn't do anything that bad -- just were a bit deceptive for awhile regarding Victor. All they have to do is give something resembling the truth behind all of this (which we already know, for the most part), and the drama will be over.

They didn't do anything illegal, and no one got scammed or got hurt. Admitting to deception by omission done for the sake of growth of their channel isn't giving up a lot. The days of implying to simps that Sarah is single are over. Time to just do this shit as a couple, and open about it. If the simps don't like it, then fuck 'em. That's the best Sarah/Victor can do at this point.

Also they need to just admit Victor was Jenny. This is embarrassing how much effort they're putting in to suppress this obvious situation.

Someone asked her in the comments why she just can't admit what is going on, be truthful, own it. She said "you can believe whatever you want but you have no proof"

I think with that kind of answer and her still consistently typing "Jenny is Jenny", this woman will not own up to anything. She seems very annoyed about people not believing that she owns the channel but it's not the same when questioned about Jenny. I doubt she will ever admit it but I hope you get her to come on here. I am sure her and Victor have read every comment in this thread lol.

[mickeycrimm]

So it’s speculated that she may have had financial issues causing Sarah to take a break, as playing at that level can get expensive. In the video JD posted, the EZ slot dude talks about another channel being deleted possibly due to financial issues.

If Sarah was really having financial issues, she is not doing something right. With as many subscribers as she has, she could easily get a deal with a casino. I believe she could get something to where she makes money per the agreement with no risk. At the absolutely least - have a deal to where you get back losses from the casino and you give them back your wins - so it’s a wash. Obviously, the viewers wouldn’t know. It’s hard to say what agreement she had with El Cortez. She has 187k subs, there is huge value in that. I’m not saying a property like Bellagio or another upscale property would give her a deal. But one of the smaller shit holes on Fremont would do something with her. At the very least ask for a “break even” deal on the gambling. At the most get an exclusive deal with them along with monthly payments and or bonuses for bringing in the simp cheddar (shout out JD).

There are actually companies that represent social media Influencers and their channels. She needs to get representation that will “shop her around” for the best deal. Victor taking over as the face of the channel will definitely hurt those efforts. Knowing Victor, he will want to shop it himself.

If funding is needed, there are companies that will “buy” a portion of your channel in exchange they get a percentage of monthly YouTube revenue.

Personally, I think her channel is worth $150k-$250.

With a no risk agreement they could easily manipulate wins/losses that get shown on the internet. They could play enough to hit a sizeable jackpot then edit out most of the rest to sucker the simps.

[JeffDime]

I rewatched EZ’s video and found everything he did completely fine. Including reading Victor’s body language towards the end, where he is definitely worried about what Sarah was going to say. Sarah’s response video is very typical of how easy it is to frame yourself as being the victim/righteous, cherry picking the allegations you want to respond to/discarding the ones you don’t(Jenny), spinning everything you have said or done as YOUR truth & basically just being a brat.

YouTube videos are a monologue & it is very easy to make yourself look sympathetic. As I said before, EZ’s only slip up was that pinned comment (which he took down). I’m not minimizing the situation that Sarah is in with this Jason guy. But when she saw that EZ pinned the comment of the same guy she had all these weird messages from, she then used that to try and change the narrative. EZ’s video was basically about the Simp deception we have gone over & over, but Sarah took the opportunity to conflate it with this issue with the patreon.

[JeffDime]

This is just an hour ago. So a few days later there has been no movement with these two. There are no false accusations in EZ’s video. If you are going to conflate random YT comments with EZ’s video, that’s just ridiculous. These two are so convinced they are righteous and it’s really fucking tilting to continue to see them justify every single thing they have said or done.



Let’s put it this way… how is Jenny? Is she ok? She basically ran the channel for years that allows both of you two to not have to work and live out in Vegas doing all kinds of -EV gambling. That was the major “allegation” in EZ’s video. We are concerned about her well being. Please produce her so we can all sleep well tonight knowing she is ok.

Seriously, stop the fucking nonsense. BTW Slot Lady’s response Video’s comment section has the biggest collection of simps just waiting to be solicited by the next Slot Lady. If there was a way to collect all these names, it could be very valuable to someone.

Seriously Victor & Sarah…cut the shit. The jig is up.

[NewGuy]

Sister Christopher's comment on the slot-lady situation:



The moral righteousness from two of the fakest people in the slot community is hilarious.

[ReformDorm]

This is just an hour ago. So a few days later there has been no movement with these two. There are no false accusations in EZ’s video. If you are going to conflate random YT comments with EZ’s video, that’s just ridiculous. These two are so convinced they are righteous and it’s really fucking tilting to continue to see them justify every single thing they have said or done.



Let’s put it this way… how is Jenny? Is she ok? She basically ran the channel for years that allows both of you two to not have to work and live out in Vegas doing all kinds of -EV gambling. That was the major “allegation” in EZ’s video. We are concerned about her well being. Please produce her so we can all sleep well tonight knowing she is ok.

Seriously, stop the fucking nonsense. BTW Slot Lady’s response Video’s comment section has the biggest collection of simps just waiting to be solicited by the next Slot Lady. If there was a way to collect all these names, it could be very valuable to someone.

Seriously Victor & Sarah…cut the shit. The jig is up.

Exactly Jeff.

And now she just replied that she has problems with Raja, the Big Jackpot slot guy that has a good following. Here is the question and her reply about this:

"Just out of curiosity, what is it with you in the big jackpot? What do you guys have against each other? I asked Scott himself and he said that he thought you were just an amazing woman and a good gambler, Truth, I tend to agree with him on that. I followed your channel since the very first slot lady video. It just seems like you and Brian Christopher have a big thing against the raja aka the big jackpot."

"I am not here to create more drama. I have my reasons for not associating with that man. I hope that helps."

Did he make a pass at her or something and Victor got upset? Lol. Seriously Sarah if you're reading this I think anyone with a brain knows you are miserable. Probably time to do something else with your life girlfriend.

[Dan Druff]

I noticed ACA now has "©️All uploads are my intellectual property. You do not have permission to re-use any part of them without my written consent." in the description of each video.

Not sure if it was always there or a move now so that if EZ uses any clips (or anyone) she can try to copyright strike him and get his videos taken down.

Can you just claim "copyright" though and say no one is allowed to use this? Last I knew YouTube allows people to use clips of other videos under fair use if they are commenting on it or reviewing it. I'm guessing one of the first things they did was report his video and just try to get YouTube to take it down, which apparently didn't work. Nice to see his video has comparatively the same amount of views as her response even with substantially less subs.

She has had that written in her description and so does EZ for a long time. When I’m checking out a YouTube channel one of the first things I do is check the normal “cut and paste” description template they use below their videos. This will tell you a bit about their angle. Do they have merch, patreon, what other ways are the soliciting money, etc.

With the few videos I have done I will put the whole doctrine of fair use in my description. I don’t think it makes any difference. But the scammer I was critical of in my videos first got me a copyright strike for using clips of his in my videos. For a big channel like Slot Lady I think she is mainly putting that warning in their as a deterrent. You can bet your ass the first thing she did was submit a copyright claim against EZ for using her clips.

She would do this because copyright claims are processed quickly. Pretty much any other reporting will take time. EZ, I’m sure figured she would do this and that is why he used very short clips of Sarah’s video. Fair use is somewhat subjective, but it would of been a real stretch for YouTube to give him a copyright strike.

I don’t know for sure Sarah tried this method, but I am over 90%. YouTube made the correct decision and she had to go to Plan B. Which was mostly a horror show.

She would have a very hard time suing EZ or anyone else for reusing clips where she and Victor do a Q&A about themselves, or where she is addressing drama from other channels.

Intellectual property suits need to show losses, and as you said, they have to prove that it wasn't fair use. Simply reposting SlotLady videos on another channel, in order to reap monetary benefits, clearly would be IP theft. However, using clips of videos where they are making claims about themselves -- or addressing cross-channel drama -- for purposes of analysis or response, is definitely fair use. These basically invite return commentary, and the commentary itself is considered a new original work, even if some of it contains previous video.

Nobody reasonable person would watch EZ's video and think "content theft".

[Dan Druff]

But yeah, they're not getting it.

They seem to think that somehow they can still discredit EZ's video by having Sarah repeat, "I didn't lie about anything, and you can't prove it."

That's not how it works in the court of internet public opinion.

WHen your own channel is full of evidence that you and your boyfriend were acting deceptive, you need to either clearly address it, or lose your audience's trust. There's no middle ground, especially if the allegations were presented on a well-watched channel within the same community.