Heroic Americans against facism: Antifa viciously attacks journalist in Portland who had previously chronicled their illegal activities

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OK, you've been misrepresenting what I said for a couple posts now. You say I made an argument I never made, then you call it weak. C'mon.

You asked a hypothetical question about "What if the Jews were well armed?" ? I responded that they would have been fucked.
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Somehow you turned this into something about saved ghettos. We were talking hypothetical. The German army wouldn;t have had to come back from anywhere, they hadnt gone anywhere yet. They started fucking with the Jews in Germany well before they ever started their invasions of other countries. They wouldn't have to take anything away from any front line, because there was no front line yet.

If you want some reality, though, a reliable machine gun would have costs hundreds of US dollars for a decent one in the late 30's. Even if they were sold in corner stores, how many Jews do you think could have afforded a machine gun and ammo? Regular citizens with families, that had been marginalized and dehumanized for years already, living in cities and towns. Even if everything was legal AND READILY AVAILABLE, it's impossible to think of a scenario where these people would have weapons of war in any measurable quantity, before a war even started.

You know about Kristallnacht, I hope? Do you know what the pretext for that whole thing was? A Jew shooting a German diplomat. That led to thousands and thousands of Jewish businesses being destroyed, hundreds (thousands?) of synagogues burned down, and dozens and dozens of JEws killed, in like 2 days or something. For 1 Jew taking 1 German life. In Paris, of all places. Germans responded to force with ULTIMATE FORCE.

Having some shitty handgun is not going to do much, but having the same guns as the government is a whole different story. Thats what we have here in America.

Be real dude. That's not at all what we have in America. A fraction of a percent of our population has weapons that can even attempt to match the US army, but they can all be taken out overnight by drone strikes if the government decides to do so, from miles and miles away, at the touch of a button. LOL at saying we have weapon parity with the government here in the US. Not even close.

Problem with too many liberals is they unfortunately can't even begin to conceive that there are valid reasons behind being staunchly anti gun control.

How does this follow from anything we've been talking about? It certainly doesn;t describe me.

At some point, you said that if they had fought back, their other ghettos would have been burnt or some such. So, there were some saved ghettos? If there weren't, then what is your point there? If they'd done A, then B, but B happened regardless, so? (Again, maybe there was a population of Jews still in Germany that were saved. I don't know anything about that, but my impression is there weren't.)

I already acknowledged that the weapons would likely have cost too much, but that isn't even an option with gun control. You are repeating to me what I said to you earlier.

Yea, you're right, military has drones and tanks and all sorts of armaments, but the modern battle rifle is little different from what Americans have. It really does make a substantial difference. The whole calculation of the battle is vastly changed. Yes, Germans massacred poorly armed Jews. Would having been armed helped? I'd say yes, but they didn't have hindsight like we do. shrug.

I will agree and change my tune about the timeline though as that makes sense. Jews were already rounded up before the main battle started, so the German resources were still very high.

Regardless my whole point was to poke at Druff by playing with identities. Didn't mean for you to take the bait.