Quote Originally Posted by Steve-O View Post
Quote Originally Posted by PLOL View Post
I literally have no intention of playing Stars live events.

Also, from a legal standpoint, this is money received during the time when PokerStars was operating illegally.
It wasn't illegal for you play though, so the money was obtained legally. The DOJ allowed Stars to return these "legal" funds to players. They sent you that e-check legally. You can try to spin it any way you want, but the simple solution is "I fucked up by posting this on the Internet and now I'm going to give it back before this gets even more out of hand."

The fact that they're not even making idle legal threats to PLOL shows that even Stars knows how laughable it is that they could ever recover this money legally.
No it just shows they are trying to settle it via the easiest path. If he refuses the threats will get more implicit. Why do you think they gave him 14 days, they just pull it out of the air for shits and giggles, or because their lawyers say the person has 14 day to make restitution? Pretty sure Stars doesn't want to drag this into court, but if he continues his flippant attitude I'd gladly take that 100-1 offer he made the other day.

It's pretty standard when someone owes money: "Write to the person (or company) giving them 14 days to repay what they owe (from the date of your letter). If payment is not received within the 14 days, legal proceedings will follow. Send a Final Demand at 28 days"
They already threatened him with a consequence -- banning from their live tournaments such as the PCA.

If they had a legal threat with any teeth (or even a believable one), they would have used it already, as it would scare most people into paying the money back.

Again, he accumulated this money through play on an illegal poker site. While PLOL himself was not committing a crime by playing, Stars was committing a crime by accepting his money to gamble on their site, and therefore any wrongful acceptance of payments of winnings is NOT a crime.

This is NOT governed by the same laws that protect domestic insurance companies and banks from people intentionally profiting due to accounting errors. Those are very specific laws that were written to protect those specific industries.

There is not a single criminal law on the book, either federally or on the state level, that would allow PLOL to be prosecuted for this.

You can posture all you want about how it was a "crime", but without an actual law that he broke, it is not a crime. Furthermore, without a jurisdiction willing to enforce this law, it is also impossible for him to be prosecuted.

Civilly, Stars could in theory sue him, but it would again be a jurisdictional nightmare, and again he could make many counter-claims regarding damages against him, such as the ZOOM tournament and the FPPs. Additionally, a civil suit against a player over a matter of an erroneously-paid $1100 would be horrible PR, and they would never do this. Imagine if players got the impression that Pokerstars would sue them if they were accidentally cashed out too much? It would dissuade people from ever wanting to play there, if Stars ever became legal in the US.

I'm afraid you do not have any knowledge of these legal issues. Any criminal attorney would laugh if he were reading this.