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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    That backward double clutch throw that lost a dozen yards flipped the entire game. Wilson went from the best game he’s had in 5 years to retard after that. They were like 2nd and 2 and about to win in 3 plays and the Survivor gods smiled upon you

    Need some breaks to win these things
    Yeah there were several points in this game where I was getting emotionally ready to lose half my tickets. That was one of them. I kept thinking, "Well, maybe I can get an interception or fumble here somehow", then I saw the pass leave his hand and I was instantly thinking it wasn't a good throw. Then I saw where it was going, and all I could think was, "Don't drop it!"

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    Of course right after I bash Carolina, they come back from 27-3 and almost win.

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    Arizona's coach apologizing the most I've ever seen a coach apologize after a 2-0 start by a mediocre team: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...hers-2-0-start


    But yeah, the second half was dreadful, especially the 4th quarter. They're lucky they were playing a terrible team, and squeaked away with a close win.

    Both games they've let failteams get back in it.

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    So with all 6 Survivor tickets intact -- including 5 of them having used Arizona over 2 different weeks, here's my way-too-early look at Week 3, before Week 2 is even over.

    Tickets 1-3 can't use ARI or DAL. Ticket 4 can't use JAX or BAL. Ticket 5 cannot use JAX or ARI. Ticket 6 cannot use DEN or ARI. This shouldn't be a problem as I won't be using any of these anyway in Week 3.

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    Buffalo -12.5 vs Miami (Thurs) - Very chalky, might be better to hold back to use team later

    Green Bay -8.5 at Cleveland - Also very chalky, probably better to hold this team back til later, might be best in NFL

    Indy -3.5 at Tennessee - Risky, will be at home vs these same Titans 10/26, better to table 'til then

    Tampa -6.5 vs NY Jets - Semi-chalky, especially since Tampa appears better than expected so far

    Washington -5.5 vs Las Vegas - Still not sure about this Redskins team. Also might need for the holiday games.

    Seattle -7.5 vs New Orleans - Another chalk game, but tempting because Seattle isn't one of the better teams, and this is a good spot for them

    KC -6.5 at NY Giants - Not doing it, need KC down the road on the holiday games

    Atlanta (No line yet) at Carolina - They see these same Panthers at home on 11/16

    Baltimore -5.5 vs Detroit (Monday) - Nope. Terrible spot to use Baltimore.

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    This is gonna be a tough decision. I have to think Seattle will be part of it, possibly Tampa.

    Opinions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    So with all 6 Survivor tickets intact -- including 5 of them having used Arizona over 2 different weeks, here's my way-too-early look at Week 3, before Week 2 is even over.

    Tickets 1-3 can't use ARI or DAL. Ticket 4 can't use JAX or BAL. Ticket 5 cannot use JAX or ARI. Ticket 6 cannot use DEN or ARI. This shouldn't be a problem as I won't be using any of these anyway in Week 3.

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    Buffalo -12.5 vs Miami (Thurs) - Very chalky, might be better to hold back to use team later

    Green Bay -8.5 at Cleveland - Also very chalky, probably better to hold this team back til later, might be best in NFL

    Indy -3.5 at Tennessee - Risky, will be at home vs these same Titans 10/26, better to table 'til then

    Tampa -6.5 vs NY Jets - Semi-chalky, especially since Tampa appears better than expected so far

    Washington -5.5 vs Las Vegas - Still not sure about this Redskins team. Also might need for the holiday games.

    Seattle -7.5 vs New Orleans - Another chalk game, but tempting because Seattle isn't one of the better teams, and this is a good spot for them

    KC -6.5 at NY Giants - Not doing it, need KC down the road on the holiday games

    Atlanta (No line yet) at Carolina - They see these same Panthers at home on 11/16

    Baltimore -5.5 vs Detroit (Monday) - Nope. Terrible spot to use Baltimore.

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    This is gonna be a tough decision. I have to think Seattle will be part of it, possibly Tampa.

    Opinions?
    Buffalo, GB, Bal & phi are too good down the road to use now.

    Tampa, KC & Wash have some "mo better" spots down the road.

    Seattle for me this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    So with all 6 Survivor tickets intact -- including 5 of them having used Arizona over 2 different weeks, here's my way-too-early look at Week 3, before Week 2 is even over.

    Tickets 1-3 can't use ARI or DAL. Ticket 4 can't use JAX or BAL. Ticket 5 cannot use JAX or ARI. Ticket 6 cannot use DEN or ARI. This shouldn't be a problem as I won't be using any of these anyway in Week 3.

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    Buffalo -12.5 vs Miami (Thurs) - Very chalky, might be better to hold back to use team later

    Green Bay -8.5 at Cleveland - Also very chalky, probably better to hold this team back til later, might be best in NFL

    Indy -3.5 at Tennessee - Risky, will be at home vs these same Titans 10/26, better to table 'til then

    Tampa -6.5 vs NY Jets - Semi-chalky, especially since Tampa appears better than expected so far

    Washington -5.5 vs Las Vegas - Still not sure about this Redskins team. Also might need for the holiday games.

    Seattle -7.5 vs New Orleans - Another chalk game, but tempting because Seattle isn't one of the better teams, and this is a good spot for them

    KC -6.5 at NY Giants - Not doing it, need KC down the road on the holiday games

    Atlanta (No line yet) at Carolina - They see these same Panthers at home on 11/16

    Baltimore -5.5 vs Detroit (Monday) - Nope. Terrible spot to use Baltimore.

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    This is gonna be a tough decision. I have to think Seattle will be part of it, possibly Tampa.

    Opinions?
    When the colts were either +or-1 vs miami week 1 i was surprised considering the qb is daniel jones. They went on to win by 30 or so points. So, ok miami is terrible and the jags should bring them back down to earth and then they go out and win a close game like that. Of all these picks I like the colts the best and then the bills.

    Atlanta had to have proven something to everyone yesterday as well. Good luck, Druff!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    My focus is on that AFC West. Most interesting division to me.

    I like Chargers +320 to win that division also. I also like over 9.5. Just think they are at least a 10 win team.


    they look good. nice call. wish i had tailed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
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    If you're saying that about Survivor, I'm glad we agree.

    Or maybe not glad, given our record together. Though Atlanta came through, so...



    Anyway, I'm not totally sold on Tampa, so I think using them at this point might be good, as they aren't necessarily a top team I'll want to save until later.

    I'm in the process of deciding which teams I'm going to go with, especially since I might put one ticket on the Thurs game.

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    I do find it funny how some "sharps" are geeking out about various teams, and making shitty picks which I thought would lose (and most did).

    Many were obsessed with Texas this Monday.

    Others were obsessed with the Raiders at home pulling an upset. Obv that didn't happen either.

    The funniest was the obsession with Pittsburgh just because Rodgers didn't look horrible in Game 1. I almost faded that one with a ML bet, and of course wish I did, but with so many sharps on the Steelers, I backed away thinking maybe I was missing something. Should've just gone with my gut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    If you're saying that about Survivor, I'm glad we agree.

    Or maybe not glad, given our record together. Though Atlanta came through, so...



    Anyway, I'm not totally sold on Tampa, so I think using them at this point might be good, as they aren't necessarily a top team I'll want to save until later.

    I'm in the process of deciding which teams I'm going to go with, especially since I might put one ticket on the Thurs game.

    yes, survivor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I do find it funny how some "sharps" are geeking out about various teams, and making shitty picks which I thought would lose (and most did).

    Many were obsessed with Texas this Monday.

    Others were obsessed with the Raiders at home pulling an upset. Obv that didn't happen either.

    The funniest was the obsession with Pittsburgh just because Rodgers didn't look horrible in Game 1. I almost faded that one with a ML bet, and of course wish I did, but with so many sharps on the Steelers, I backed away thinking maybe I was missing something. Should've just gone with my gut.


    LAC was easy. score not reflective. LVS looked terrible imo esp offense.

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    I already see a potentially problematic week for Survivor -- week 5.

    If Purdy isn't back, Rams at home vs SF is possible.

    Otherwise it looks like a choice between Colts at home vs Raiders, Vikings at Browns, and Bills at home vs Patriots.


    Week 6 is also an issue, looking like the choices are Steelers at home vs Browns (though I really hate Steelers in general), Broncos at Jets, Redskins at home vs Bears, and Chargers at Dolphins.

    I really don't want to use the Chiefs, Eagles, or Redskins because I want to save those for the holiday games, if I make it that far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I already see a potentially problematic week for Survivor -- week 5.

    If Purdy isn't back, Rams at home vs SF is possible.

    Otherwise it looks like a choice between Colts at home vs Raiders, Vikings at Browns, and Bills at home vs Patriots.


    Week 6 is also an issue, looking like the choices are Steelers at home vs Browns (though I really hate Steelers in general), Broncos at Jets, Redskins at home vs Bears, and Chargers at Dolphins.

    I really don't want to use the Chiefs, Eagles, or Redskins because I want to save those for the holiday games, if I make it that far.
    I dont play with a Holliday consideration, so thats a twist.

    I got Vikings week 5 at Clev -or- its a week to use a stud team (Buf, Bal or even Phi, KC).

    Week 6 will be equally tricky. I think Pitt vs Clev would be the choice or Wash vs Chi (or stud team).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
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    I already see a potentially problematic week for Survivor -- week 5.

    If Purdy isn't back, Rams at home vs SF is possible.

    Otherwise it looks like a choice between Colts at home vs Raiders, Vikings at Browns, and Bills at home vs Patriots.


    Week 6 is also an issue, looking like the choices are Steelers at home vs Browns (though I really hate Steelers in general), Broncos at Jets, Redskins at home vs Bears, and Chargers at Dolphins.

    I really don't want to use the Chiefs, Eagles, or Redskins because I want to save those for the holiday games, if I make it that far.
    I dont play with a Holliday consideration, so thats a twist.

    I got Vikings week 5 at Clev -or- its a week to use a stud team (Buf, Bal or even Phi, KC).

    Week 6 will be equally tricky. I think Pitt vs Clev would be the choice or Wash vs Chi (or stud team).
    Note I'm saying this as a Vikes fan, but i'd be hesitant to pick them against anyone right now with the injuries. Admittedly, by week 5 Addison is back from suspension already, and Darrisaw should be back at LT. Might still be Wentz at QB, although after these last 2 weeks, not sure if thats better or worse.

    Other quirk there is that is the 2nd game in a row the Vikes are playing in Europe. Vs. Pittsburgh in Dublin week 4, and then they just go to London for the Browns game. Not sure if spending a full 8-9 days overseas helps with the acclimation for the second game, or hurts by simply being away from home for so long. First time any team has done this. At least they are both technically road games for MN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gut View Post
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    I dont play with a Holliday consideration, so thats a twist.

    I got Vikings week 5 at Clev -or- its a week to use a stud team (Buf, Bal or even Phi, KC).

    Week 6 will be equally tricky. I think Pitt vs Clev would be the choice or Wash vs Chi (or stud team).
    Note I'm saying this as a Vikes fan, but i'd be hesitant to pick them against anyone right now with the injuries. Admittedly, by week 5 Addison is back from suspension already, and Darrisaw should be back at LT. Might still be Wentz at QB, although after these last 2 weeks, not sure if thats better or worse.

    Other quirk there is that is the 2nd game in a row the Vikes are playing in Europe. Vs. Pittsburgh in Dublin week 4, and then they just go to London for the Browns game. Not sure if spending a full 8-9 days overseas helps with the acclimation for the second game, or hurts by simply being away from home for so long. First time any team has done this. At least they are both technically road games for MN.

    All i can say is that when they put the numbers in the computer the look ahead line makes Vikings a 7 point fav over Cleveland in a neutral site. All those things you mentioned are theoretically baked in the cake. The same computer doesn't make them more than a 3 point fav in any week the rest of the year.

    How right or wrong is it? I have no idea. I am reading the tea leaves as they sit.

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    Jayden Daniels injured his knee last week and missed practice today, so it's likely he won't play Sunday. It's likely he will be back soon, but this week he probably sits.

    That pretty much takes the Redskins off the table for this week for Survivor. I wasn't going to take them anyway, but I was actually hoping more would (and then it would lose), and now it's likely not to get a lot of picks.

    Sad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gut View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post

    I dont play with a Holliday consideration, so thats a twist.

    I got Vikings week 5 at Clev -or- its a week to use a stud team (Buf, Bal or even Phi, KC).

    Week 6 will be equally tricky. I think Pitt vs Clev would be the choice or Wash vs Chi (or stud team).
    Note I'm saying this as a Vikes fan, but i'd be hesitant to pick them against anyone right now with the injuries. Admittedly, by week 5 Addison is back from suspension already, and Darrisaw should be back at LT. Might still be Wentz at QB, although after these last 2 weeks, not sure if thats better or worse.

    Other quirk there is that is the 2nd game in a row the Vikes are playing in Europe. Vs. Pittsburgh in Dublin week 4, and then they just go to London for the Browns game. Not sure if spending a full 8-9 days overseas helps with the acclimation for the second game, or hurts by simply being away from home for so long. First time any team has done this. At least they are both technically road games for MN.
    Yeah it's looking like Wentz this week.

    Speaking of injured QBs, Joe Burrow might be out for the season, and definitely for awhile.

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...urn-later-2025


    This means this week's Vikings/Bengals matchup will be Browning versus Wentz, which I'm sure will be riveting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gut View Post

    Note I'm saying this as a Vikes fan, but i'd be hesitant to pick them against anyone right now with the injuries. Admittedly, by week 5 Addison is back from suspension already, and Darrisaw should be back at LT. Might still be Wentz at QB, although after these last 2 weeks, not sure if thats better or worse.

    Other quirk there is that is the 2nd game in a row the Vikes are playing in Europe. Vs. Pittsburgh in Dublin week 4, and then they just go to London for the Browns game. Not sure if spending a full 8-9 days overseas helps with the acclimation for the second game, or hurts by simply being away from home for so long. First time any team has done this. At least they are both technically road games for MN.
    Yeah it's looking like Wentz this week.

    Speaking of injured QBs, Joe Burrow might be out for the season, and definitely for awhile.

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...urn-later-2025

    This means this week's Vikings/Bengals matchup will be Browning versus Wentz, which I'm sure will be riveting.
    Last time vikes v bengals was also backup fest, Browning v Mullens in 2023, i think

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    So... I've got an issue with Survivor.

    I was considering a ticket on Buffalo, but decided against it. I was happy to see Miami holding to a 21-21 tie in the 4th, but sadly they lost. But whatever, lots of uses for Buffalo down the line.

    So I've got 6 tickets, and there are only 3 decent choices, all things considered:

    Tampa (vs NY Jets)
    Seattle (vs New Orleans)
    Atlanta (at Carolina)

    Tampa and Seattle look best, but there are a LOT of sharps who are going the other way on both. Granted, most of them are just going with the spread, stating that they don't feel Seattle or Tampa will cover, but I never like doing Survivor picks where sharps are on the other side, even spread-wise.

    Atlanta also has some sharps picking the other side. There's also the issue that it's on the road, and Atlanta just isn't very good. Carolina also showed some heart by almost catching Arizona in the second half, and that was on the road!

    Austin Corbett and Robert Hunt are out for Caroilna, and Ikem Ekwonu isn't totally healthy due to an appendectomy. So there's an argument that Carolina won't score much, and Atlanta will smack Carolina's bad defense like it did to the Vikings last week. But that young Falcons team still makes me nervous.

    I'm thinking of going with:

    Seattle 3 tickets
    Tampa 2 tickets
    Atlanta 1 ticket

    Opinions?

    KC isn't an option, and I don't want to waste Green Bay either, especially on the road.

    On the plus side, these 3 teams don't have a lot of future value (especially Seattle and Atlanta), so it would be nice to again win with teams which I won't have to worry about using up.

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