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    Lil known fact, just prior to Sept 11th Sadaam Hussein was threatening to send in military forces into Palestine.

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    Idk what's happening in Gaza but it's strange how all the world's supposed cold hearted despots are horrified by what's happening, threatening invasion and all.
    The Saudi's iran , Amin, Hugo Chavez, Castro, Putin...

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    I still don't understand the ceasefire rhetoric.

    Is the belief really that Israel should just accept 1400 of their civilians intentionally murdered by Hamas, shrug their shoulders, and say, "Okay, time to begin peace talks now"?

    How does anyone believe this is realistic for Israel -- or any other country victimized by such an attack?

    Honestly I think the "ceasefire" people are ones who believe that the nasty Jews deserved it for all they've supposedly done to Palestinians over the years, so now it's even and they're supposed to get going with the peace process. These dummies still don't see the attack for what it actually was -- a fundamentalist religious group killing Jews because that's what they've always wanted to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I still don't understand the ceasefire rhetoric.

    Is the belief really that Israel should just accept 1400 of their civilians intentionally murdered by Hamas, shrug their shoulders, and say, "Okay, time to begin peace talks now"?

    How does anyone believe this is realistic for Israel -- or any other country victimized by such an attack?

    Honestly I think the "ceasefire" people are ones who believe that the nasty Jews deserved it for all they've supposedly done to Palestinians over the years, so now it's even and they're supposed to get going with the peace process. These dummies still don't see the attack for what it actually was -- a fundamentalist religious group killing Jews because that's what they've always wanted to do.
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    If a genocide is happening, it's Hamas against the people of Gaza.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I still don't understand the ceasefire rhetoric.

    Is the belief really that Israel should just accept 1400 of their civilians intentionally murdered by Hamas, shrug their shoulders, and say, "Okay, time to begin peace talks now"?

    How does anyone believe this is realistic for Israel -- or any other country victimized by such an attack?

    Honestly I think the "ceasefire" people are ones who believe that the nasty Jews deserved it for all they've supposedly done to Palestinians over the years, so now it's even and they're supposed to get going with the peace process. These dummies still don't see the attack for what it actually was -- a fundamentalist religious group killing Jews because that's what they've always wanted to do.

    because for every single hamas member who gets killed, dozens of innocent palestinian human beings are being murdered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    I still don't understand the ceasefire rhetoric.

    Is the belief really that Israel should just accept 1400 of their civilians intentionally murdered by Hamas, shrug their shoulders, and say, "Okay, time to begin peace talks now"?

    How does anyone believe this is realistic for Israel -- or any other country victimized by such an attack?

    Honestly I think the "ceasefire" people are ones who believe that the nasty Jews deserved it for all they've supposedly done to Palestinians over the years, so now it's even and they're supposed to get going with the peace process. These dummies still don't see the attack for what it actually was -- a fundamentalist religious group killing Jews because that's what they've always wanted to do.

    because for every single hamas member who gets killed, dozens of innocent palestinian human beings are being murdered.
    And whose fault is that?

    I would say it's the fault of the terrorist-led government in Gaza using its own citizens as human shields.

    So what are you saying? Israel needs to tolerate murder of its civilians if the murderers choose to hide behind their own civilian population?

    There is always collateral damage in war. This includes the recent US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. It's sad and unfortunate, but that's what occurs at wartime, especially when one side intentionally hides among its civilian population, believing the other side to be too decent to bomb them there.

    Israel cannot let Hamas continue after this. Otherwise, what message does this send to their own citizens? What message does this send to Israel's many enemies and semi-enemies surrounding them?

    The Middle East is ruled by strength, not common decency or morality. If you project weakness, you will get crushed.

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    The "ceasefire" crowd also is quite transparent if you look at what they do and don't say.

    They are very loud about the civilian deaths in Gaza due to Israel's bombing, and also very loud about Israel's policies in general.

    However, they say very little (if anything) about the brutality and outrageousness of what Hamas did on October 7, and there is scant mention of the hostages, except when it's qualified by a need to BOTH have a ceasefire and a hostage release.

    They almost never criticize Hamas itself, nor do they condemn Hamas for the killings or their longtime stated goal of killing Jews.

    If the ceasefire crowd were really outraged about what happened to the Israeli people, yet also concerned for civilians in Gaza, they would loudly condemn Hamas and their actions, but also state that they feel the ceasefire should occur in order to save lives. Few take this approach. They are extremely light on the Hamas criticism.

    Of course, there's a huge overlap in the crowd pushing for ceasefire and the crowd condemning Israel's treatment of Gaza, which of course is no coincidence.

    Israel suffers an attack where 1400 civilians are targeted and brutally murdered, and somehow this crowd thinks protesting Israel is the correct response. These people are not actually outraged by Hamas' actions. Some think the Jews deserved it, and others think that this was the inevitable response of an oppressed people finally rising up. They just won't say it out loud.

    At least the far right white supremacist Jew haters admit what they are. The left wing Jew haters pretend they're all about peace and love, and that they have no problem at all with Jews, when in reality it's a very different picture behind closed doors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    because for every single hamas member who gets killed, dozens of innocent palestinian human beings are being murdered.
    And whose fault is that?

    I would say it's the fault of the terrorist-led government in Gaza using its own citizens as human shields.

    So what are you saying?

    in saying you have the emotional intelligence / functional empathy of a lamprey eel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    And whose fault is that?

    I would say it's the fault of the terrorist-led government in Gaza using its own citizens as human shields.

    So what are you saying?

    in saying you have the emotional intelligence / functional empathy of a lamprey eel.
    I'm the one with the empathy for the families of the 1400 Jews murdered, and you're the one who wants the Jews to just forget about it and make peace with the terrorists because a bunch of anti-Semites and woke virtue signalers say they should.

    Typical response of a shitlib, believing that they are the "emotionally intelligent" ones because they lack basic common sense regarding how to deal with horrible people doing horrible things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    in saying you have the emotional intelligence / functional empathy of a lamprey eel.
    I'm the one with the empathy for the families of the 1400 Jews murdered, and you're the one who wants the Jews to just forget about it and make peace with the terrorists because a bunch of anti-Semites and woke virtue signalers say they should.

    Typical response of a shitlib, believing that they are the "emotionally intelligent" ones because they lack basic common sense regarding how to deal with horrible people doing horrible things.
    Nobody's saying forget about it, they are saying Israel has killed enough innocent life.

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    turkeys about to declare war on israel.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I still don't understand the ceasefire rhetoric.

    Is the belief really that Israel should just accept 1400 of their civilians intentionally murdered by Hamas, shrug their shoulders, and say, "Okay, time to begin peace talks now"?

    How does anyone believe this is realistic for Israel -- or any other country victimized by such an attack?

    Honestly I think the "ceasefire" people are ones who believe that the nasty Jews deserved it for all they've supposedly done to Palestinians over the years, so now it's even and they're supposed to get going with the peace process. These dummies still don't see the attack for what it actually was -- a fundamentalist religious group killing Jews because that's what they've always wanted to do.
    I don't feel that way at all. I want Israel to be well and safe. At what number of Palestinians killed though should they stop? It has to matter to most people that the Palestinians are also human beings who have lives worth no more or less than anyone else's. If Israel is going to kill every person they identify as "Hamas" how many others is it acceptable to kill in the process and towards what end?

    Are they going to execute every male age 15-70 and plan on occupying Gaza for the next 20 years carrying out their plan? I don't see many good choices for Israel.

    I find the argument that wanting the violence to stop is akin to being against Israel to be flawed.

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    Conflict in Israel has been a reality whenever Israel has existed as a nation. Whether it was the Egyptians, Amalekites, Midianites, Moabites, Ammonites, Amorites, Philistines, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, or Romans, the nation of Israel has always been persecuted by its neighbors. Why is this? According to the Bible, it is because God has a special plan for the nation of Israel, and Satan wants to defeat that plan. Satanically influenced hatred of Israel—and especially Israel’s God—is the reason Israel’s neighbors have always wanted to see Israel destroyed. Whether it is Sennacherib, king of Assyria; Haman, official of Persia; Hitler, leader of Nazi Germany; or Rouhani, President of Iran, attempts to completely destroy Israel will always fail. The persecutors of Israel will come and go, but the persecution will remain until the second coming of Christ. As a result, conflict in Israel is not a reliable indicator of the soon arrival of the end times.

    However, the Bible does say there will be terrible conflict in Israel during the end times. That is why the time period is known as the Tribulation, the Great Tribulation, and the “time of Jacob’s trouble” (Jeremiah 30:7). Here is what the Bible says about Israel in the end times:

    There will be a mass return of Jews to the land of Israel (Deuteronomy 30:3; Isaiah 43:6; Ezekiel 34:11-13; 36:24; 37:1-14).

    The Antichrist will make a 7-year covenant of "peace" with Israel (Isaiah 28:18; Daniel 9:27).

    The temple will be rebuilt in Jerusalem (Daniel 9:27; Matthew 24:15; 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4; Revelation 11:1).

    The Antichrist will break his covenant with Israel, and worldwide persecution of Israel will result (Daniel 9:27; 12:1, 11; Zechariah 11:16; Matthew 24:15, 21; Revelation 12:13). Israel will be invaded (Ezekiel chapters 38-39).

    Israel will finally recognize Jesus as their Messiah (Zechariah 12:10). Israel will be regenerated, restored, and regathered (Jeremiah 33:8; Ezekiel 11:17; Romans 11:26).

    There is much turmoil in Israel today. Israel is persecuted, surrounded by enemies—Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, etc. But this hatred and persecution of Israel is only a hint of what will happen in the end times (Matthew 24:15-21). The latest round of persecution began when Israel was reconstituted as a nation in 1948. Many Bible prophecy scholars believed the six-day Arab-Israeli war in 1967 was the "beginning of the end." Could what is taking place in Israel today indicate that the end is near? Yes. Does it necessarily mean the end is near? No. Jesus Himself said it best, "Watch out that no one deceives you. . . . You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come" (Matthew 24:4-6).

    So it was said, so it will be done.

     
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    Netanyahu is the problem

    He is the asshole who has hardlined the aggressive take over of Palestinian land

    Druff- do you really think the people op Gaza are just gonna sit on their hands and take it forever? Of course they were going to revolt
    They pretty much have nothing to lose
    You never want to corner anyone or anything and the people fo Gaza are and have been cornered


    You still on about the 6billion or have you now realized the right wing media lied and deceived you yet again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    in saying you have the emotional intelligence / functional empathy of a lamprey eel.
    I'm the one with the empathy for the families of the 1400 Jews murdered, and you're the one who wants the Jews to just forget about it and make peace with the terrorists because a bunch of anti-Semites and woke virtue signalers say they should.

    Typical response of a shitlib, believing that they are the "emotionally intelligent" ones because they lack basic common sense regarding how to deal with horrible people doing horrible things.
    Enjoy the genocide!
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    If a genocide is happening, it's Hamas against the people of Gaza.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    Netanyahu is the problem

    He is the asshole who has hardlined the aggressive take over of Palestinian land

    Druff- do you really think the people op Gaza are just gonna sit on their hands and take it forever? Of course they were going to revolt
    They pretty much have nothing to lose
    You never want to corner anyone or anything and the people fo Gaza are and have been cornered


    You still on about the 6billion or have you now realized the right wing media lied and deceived you yet again?

    Haha, Hamas supporter right here folks. And WTF do you know about being "cornered" tough guy? You are a stay at home Dad, people laugh at you when you tell them that, no wonder you are a supporter of AOC, that brother fucker in Minnesota and Kamala Harris. Go back to your Palestine Marches where they also laugh at you behind your back. Psst, if you are a stay at home Dad, keep that shit on the down lo. It's nothing something you talk about, like being a grown fucking Man and listening to your Pops on who to vote for.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    Netanyahu is the problem

    He is the asshole who has hardlined the aggressive take over of Palestinian land

    Druff- do you really think the people op Gaza are just gonna sit on their hands and take it forever? Of course they were going to revolt
    They pretty much have nothing to lose
    You never want to corner anyone or anything and the people fo Gaza are and have been cornered


    You still on about the 6billion or have you now realized the right wing media lied and deceived you yet again?

    can you please stop engaging in political threads because my fucking head hurts

    TIA

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