My Thoughts on the Recent Anti Gay Wedding Cake Movement

[smithbk]

Would the gay couple try to a Islamic baker to make his cake?

I don't know who told you that.

[FR1GHT]

Why is forcing people to accept the gay way of life any different than forcing people to live a religious way of life?

[simpdog]

Jordan spieth is my lover

[smithbk]

It's our job as Christians to judge you and police your sinful behavior. If you don't like it, you should have thought about that before choosing to be gay.

Man, that one hurts. Deep down. <deep breath>

 

or ... can't decide

[FR1GHT]

Partake in their activities? No one is asking anyone to give lap dances or sing karaoke shirtless. That's just an asinine statement.

It's our job as Christians to judge you and police your sinful behavior. If you don't like it, you should have thought about that before choosing to be gay.

Yes, as Americans and Christians they should be allowed to judge. That's called being free. If you don't like the judgement, then you can go to the bakery down the street.

Now on the other hand, no you are not FREE to judge me. I don't care that my way of life conflicts with your beliefs. You are going to be FORCED to accept my way of life and serve me.

I'm gay and don't accept any tolerance for your way of life, but if you're against me you better be tolerant.

[SrslySirius]

Yes, as Americans and Christians they should be allowed to judge. That's called being free. If you don't like the judgement, then you can go to the bakery down the street.

Now on the other hand, no you are not FREE to judge me. I don't care that my way of life conflicts with your beliefs. You are going to be FORCED to accept my way of life and serve me.

I'm gay and don't accept any tolerance for your way of life, but if you're against me you better be tolerant.

The only point I was making is that it's hypocritical to take this view as a Christian. To actively hate homosexuals is putting a lot of stock into a single vague line of Leviticus and discarding tons of scripture about tolerance and fellowship.

Even if the Bible did explicitly state you should actively discriminate against gays, religion is not a shield from the law. You can't stone your promiscuous wife to death just because Deuteronomy says you should. Try telling a judge "that's just muh beliefs".

Currently it is legal to discriminate against gays in some states, however. How long that is the case remains to be seen.

[FR1GHT]

Yes, as Americans and Christians they should be allowed to judge. That's called being free. If you don't like the judgement, then you can go to the bakery down the street.

Now on the other hand, no you are not FREE to judge me. I don't care that my way of life conflicts with your beliefs. You are going to be FORCED to accept my way of life and serve me.

I'm gay and don't accept any tolerance for your way of life, but if you're against me you better be tolerant.

The only point I was making is that it's hypocritical to take this view as a Christian. To actively hate homosexuals is putting a lot of stock into a single vague line of Leviticus and discarding tons of scripture about tolerance and fellowship.

Even if the Bible did explicitly state you should actively discriminate against gays, religion is not a shield from the law. You can't stone your promiscuous wife to death just because Deuteronomy says you should. Try telling a judge "that's just muh beliefs".

Currently it is legal to discriminate against gays in some states, however. How long that is the case remains to be seen.

OK, but the whole point behind freedom, which nobody seems to understand is that it's OK to not agree with your neighbors.

This is supposed to be a place where you can be free and exercise your beliefs. By trying to force somebody else to do something against their beliefs means they are no longer free.

Their freedom has been stripped in the interest of another group. Do I really need to continue? I've said the same thing ten different ways.

Being denied something from people who don't share your beliefs is not stripping your freedoms. To force somebody to do something against their beliefs is stripping their freedoms.

[SrslySirius]

The only point I was making is that it's hypocritical to take this view as a Christian. To actively hate homosexuals is putting a lot of stock into a single vague line of Leviticus and discarding tons of scripture about tolerance and fellowship.

Even if the Bible did explicitly state you should actively discriminate against gays, religion is not a shield from the law. You can't stone your promiscuous wife to death just because Deuteronomy says you should. Try telling a judge "that's just muh beliefs".

Currently it is legal to discriminate against gays in some states, however. How long that is the case remains to be seen.

OK, but the whole point behind freedom, which nobody seems to understand is that it's OK to not agree with your neighbors.

This is supposed to be a place where you can be free and exercise your beliefs. By trying to force somebody else to do something against their beliefs means they are no longer free.

Their freedom has been stripped in the interest of another group. Do I really need to continue? I've said the same thing ten different ways.

Being denied something from people who don't share your beliefs is not stripping your freedoms. To force somebody to do something against their beliefs is stripping their freedoms.

Your right to believe what you want is not being threatened by laws like this. It is not establishing a new religion.

Suppose I belonged to a weird religion that involves eating raw meat. Nobody is going to stop me from eating rotten bacon at home, but if I open a restaurant violating health codes, of course it's going to get shut down. Is the government FORCING me to do something against my beliefs? Not exactly. If my religious practices don't jive with laws about running a business, then I shouldn't open that business.

BTW discriminating against people is not the same as disagreeing or disapproving of them. You can serve gays and hate them to your cold heart's content.

[Benford]

Someone educate me on this:

If casinos can eject you (ie. not "serve" you with a gambling product) for any reason it deems fit, why would standard businesses such as bakeries be forced to invoke a religious freedom law to eject gays?

Is there a double standard when it comes to casinos vs. other businesses?

[SrslySirius]

Someone educate me on this:

If casinos can eject you (ie. not "serve" you with a gambling product) for any reason it deems fit, why would standard businesses such as bakeries be forced to invoke a religious freedom law to eject gays?

Is there a double standard when it comes to casinos vs. other businesses?

Casinos in the US are not allowed to discriminate based on race, sex, or other protected classes.

[FR1GHT]

OK, but the whole point behind freedom, which nobody seems to understand is that it's OK to not agree with your neighbors.

This is supposed to be a place where you can be free and exercise your beliefs. By trying to force somebody else to do something against their beliefs means they are no longer free.

Their freedom has been stripped in the interest of another group. Do I really need to continue? I've said the same thing ten different ways.

Being denied something from people who don't share your beliefs is not stripping your freedoms. To force somebody to do something against their beliefs is stripping their freedoms.

Your right to believe what you want is not being threatened by laws like this. It is not establishing a new religion.

Suppose I belonged to a weird religion that involves eating raw meat. Nobody is going to stop me from eating rotten bacon at home, but if I open a restaurant violating health codes, of course it's going to get shut down. Is the government FORCING me to do something against my beliefs? Not exactly. If my religious practices don't jive with laws about running a business, then I shouldn't open that business.

BTW discriminating against people is not the same as disagreeing or disapproving of them. You can serve gays and hate them to your cold heart's content.

Well what you're pointing out is already the outrageous overstep government has already made. That's why our population is so stupid. They don't even have to figure anything out for themselves, because they got good old uncle sam telling them what they need and should do.

For religious people, serving gays would be like me telling you that you are going to serve known child molesters. If you're cool with being forced to do that, then fine. But that's not freedom. Freedom is the ability to make a choice and to take the choice away from a business owner is taking their freedom.

If people weren't so cuddled then they'd know better than to go to there to eat rotten bacon. You literally act like people need to be held like babies. We've survived without these rules. I don't think all the sudden there would be a run on the rotten bacon department that killed everybody and put the human race to extinction.

[SrslySirius]

You realize that discrimination laws only apply to protected classes, right? I doubt child molesters will be getting that status any time soon.

The health code thing was just an example, but if things like that are your idea of outrageous overstep, LOL, uh, agree to disagree I guess.

[FR1GHT]

You realize that discrimination laws only apply to protected classes, right? I doubt child molesters will be getting that status any time soon.

The health code thing was just an example, but if things like that are your idea of outrageous overstep, LOL, uh, agree to disagree I guess.

I realize and think that protected classes are joke. It's something that the government is forcing on people.

I'm saying that many religious people believe gay people are sinners the same as child molesters. I'm not talking about what the government approves of or what I believe. I'm talking about the beliefs of those individuals. You seem incapable of making that distinction.


That is the belief right or wrong. That is THEIR belief and who are you to tell them that they have wrong beliefs? It's the same as gays not wanting to be told they are in the wrong. It's talking in circles.

[Benford]

Should a religious freedom fighter avoid buying any shares on the stock market since the vast majority of all large publicly-held companies serve gays in the U.S and around the world?

[Corrigan]

If people weren't so cuddled then they'd know better than to go to there to eat rotten bacon.

lmao "cuddled"


you are one stupid stupid sub-human

[Pooh]

What's going on with the Fr1ght post bender?

post less dude.

[Pooh]

Jordan spieth is my lover

This is actually a pretty good point. Spieth is a rare breed for a 21 yr old. Not outwardly arrogant like mackledouche and fucking nasty as hell at golf. I wish the guy nothing but the best. Is he the next great white hope for america? I think he could be. Tiger isn't done though. Not by a long shot. I'm looking forward to him getting his game back and contending in majors. We've never seen the new breed against tiger on his A game and it will be interesting to see if they fold like the old guard did. I'm predicting yes. And I will laugh. That said, Tiger may be the one folding. I'll laugh at that too I suppose. Getting old sucks.

[zealanddonk]

What's going on with the Fr1ght post bender?

post less dude.

"Tyde" decided to take his business elsewhere for awhile.

[Brittney Griner's Clit]

All you guys bashing tyde... what if it's a gay BLACK couple?