Our beloved Curacao eGaming(www.curacao-egaming.com) with George Praag as owner/operator do the cashier for Carbon!
http://www.4flush.com/online-poker-n...f-skrill/18780Carbon Poker was previously licensed through the Kahnawake Gaming Commission before merging cashiers with Jazette Enterprises in 2012.
1668/JAZ is the license number issued to Curacao eGaming. In the case of Carbon Poker is Curacao eGaming directly the owner/operator and has not "only" the function as a statutory manager of the shell companies using their license.
Jazette is the company behind Carbon. Therefore JAZ in the license number is supposedly an abbreviation for Jazette.
Ahh, here we have the Cake Poker Network:
Player segregation sounds familiar:Jazette moved its brands over to Merge gaming in early 2010 from its previous home on the Cake Poker Network (now renamed Revolution).
http://pokerfuse.com/news/media-and-...network-13-05/Jazette Segregates its Poker Player Pool from Rest of Merge Gaming Network
It looks as if skrill wd's are rolling again...thank fucking god
I spoke too soon, sigh...
Last edited by big dick; 05-07-2015 at 05:36 PM.
I still don't trust them.
It looks a lot like they are waiting until they collect deposits, and then paying out with that money.
I'll have to see a steady stream of quickly processed large payouts before I would deem it safe to play there.
If you can get all of your money off and move to Bovada/ACR, I would suggest doing so ASAP.
A bit off topic since this is a Carbon Poker thread but I just wanted to share a story of good customer support since we always focus on the negative in the industry (same goes on a restaurant trip,etc.) and never state positive resolutions.
I have a debit card through ACR which they use two companies and the one I had the card issued from they no longer do business with. The money is no longer available to me that I kept on the card which wasn't much mainly to cover a few months worth of fees if I don't cashout before then. That money is still mine though and I mean it's at least enough to get me a nice pizza or case of beer so I definitely wanted it.
Anyways, ACR told me to contact them in a few days if I couldn't get the money which you can't access it and I just called them up today then within an hour they credited me the remaining balance from the card into my account after I sent them in a screen shot of what it was from the debit card website.
Little things like this go a long way with me and not to say they always do things right because they don't but I got to give them credit for how they handled this situation.
Oh yeah my last bitcoin withdrawl was about 16 hours which even though it could be quicker then that even since it's not difficult to do they still are faster then any poker network right now with that.
Last edited by BeerAndPoker; 05-06-2015 at 01:12 PM.
I have a decent size stable of great players under my affiliate account there and even I have my doubts about Carbon right now. Anyone who has contacted me privately on 2+2 or Skype I've told them the same thing -- you're better off playing on Bovada or ACR right now if you're not in a place where legal online poker exists or if you're a ROW player.
I don't think they're going to up and run with anyone's money. They're definitely no PokerStars but the saying "they're just too big to fail" comes to mind and someone would come to the rescue to bail out their operation if bad came to worse, especially considering how much money they're likely printing with their sportsbook and casino brands.
I'm not saying that in defense of them by any means...I just think if there's ONE operation I would feel confident about paying out players (EVENTUALLY) it would be Carbon Poker. They may be ran by a shady group but they've been in the business a decade now and have never once fled and ran away from payout problems in the past. Time will tell I guess...they have a lot to do to gain players confidence again...and even with that being said I think the damage is done and they most likely won't be as popular as ACR and Bovada seem to be right now.
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I totally agree with this assumption, as they can not steal again what they have stolen years ago. They have currently obviously a hard time to process some withdrawals with deposits coming in.
If money equal to all player balances would exist, then the largest part of this money would be deposited on bank accounts, a small part would be at 3rd party check processing companies and a smaller part on their Skrill account to process Skrill withdrawals within a few business days.
As permanent or even temporary unacceptable delayed withdrawals could lead to a bank run and lost of customers, a company would never let it come to the point that all withdrawal methods are unacceptable delayed, if they have the money!
Yes, there could be a payment processor issue with delivering checks, but there is no issue with their bank accounts(where the player balances money is stored) and there is also no issue with Skrill. Skrill to Skrill transfers are instant and an international bank transfer from their bank accounts to their Skrill account or to the customers bank accounts typically take 2-3 business. The unacceptable delayed Skrill and bank transfer withdrawals clearly show that the money is simply not there!
In the case of a check payment processor issue(which can happen), they could simply offer to send your withdrawal as BTC. If I owe you money and I have the money and I want to give you the money, rest assured that we will find a way.
If all customers of a bank wanted to have their money, the bank also couldn´t pay. The whole life is a ponzi scheme
holy fuck hipaintcheap is on pfa now ?pay no mind to this fucking clown, he is an absolute fraud, and a total moron.
Last edited by big dick; 05-07-2015 at 05:44 PM.
Been waiting since Feb 23 for cashout (80 days) BEWARE of this shady site
I'm.just a losing rec player but if the Times I actually did cash out, it took more then a couple of weeks to get my loot. It wouldn't be worth it or fun anymore. If a.c.r. took month,s to mail me my 800$ check, that would suck!! I'd be stressed out. I got it in 2!!! Weeks.
If my cash outs were that horrendous, I would go back to club wpt. They actually paid me quit a few times in 3weeks. Always less then a month.
A.c.r. players get there wire transfer in 2 days!!!!!!!
I would suggest staying away from sportsbook.com or any Jazzette sportsbook that there is. They are delaying payments just like Carbon is because they are one in the same. On top of that they are thieves who stole money from players a few yrs back claiming correlatted parlays etc.. Most likely this will go on until football starts up. I'd be running not walking away from Carbon if I played there.
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