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Thread: IS SEALS WITH CLUBS DONKDOWN??? (Update: Micon charged with a felony in Nevada)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Not only that, but it was me who converted the tone of the site from an LOL neverwin fan site to the pit of degeneracy that it became famous for.

    Seriously, go back on archive.org and look it up.


    Jesus fucking Christ you are one self centered motherfucker


    I'm going to resist the urge to put you on blast and leave it at that


    get aids
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    http://pokerfuse.com/news/industry/2...e-all-players/

    Hi Jennifer, I’m interested in buying the Lock Poker brand and all its software assets. You can give me a quick google and see that I started SealsWithClubs.eu in 2011 and amassed a considerable wealth with the increase in Bitcoin price. I plan to relaunch the brand and make all players whole. I consider Lock Poker like Chrysler of the early 90’s. It’s a strong brand that needs a turn-around.
    Prosecutors just got a raging hard-on after seeing him state that he "amassed a considerable wealth". Not good.

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    TV news story on Micon and the charges

    http://www.8newsnow.com/story/289244...lipId=11439764

     
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    gotta hand it to Bryan


    for better or worse, he has officially solidified his status as a fucking LEGEND


    keep up the great work with your cute little ego fest circle jerk Rainman

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    Quote Originally Posted by badguy23 View Post
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    Jesus fucking Christ you are one self centered motherfucker


    I'm going to resist the urge to put you on blast and leave it at that


    get aids
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    deleted from net

    to focus on subject matter

    MICON
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    5 government officials in suits holding a press conference and acting like this is a seriously major case when we all know they are talking about a harmless, skinny stoner like Micon is very surreal to me.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyde View Post

    on the surface it looks like he is totally fucked, but I have a feeling he is going to emerge victorious in the end
    Agree.

    Chesnoff is a known wizard and bitcoin has enough gray area to get weird with it. Apparently Micon has an Antiguan representation too now. Everything that happens from here is sure to be really very interesting.

    I will not be rooting for the 6 dickhead goons standing around a podium holding their unsavory justice boners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I don't know where you got the idea that I claimed I knew how this case would play out.

    I don't. I never said I did. No one knows.

    I threw out various ideas, including what a possible plea deal might look like, but I just pulled all of that out of my ass, and in reality have nothing substantial to offer regarding the actual terms we might see.

    I thought we covered this from every possible angle and sub-story regarding this whole matter. We spent over 3 freaking hours talking about this last night. It was beaten to death. If anything, we talked about it in too much detail and did too much speculating, not too little.

    But fine, if you want speculation regarding the future of where this goes, here it is....

    I think the Attorney General is out for blood. I think they want to make an example of someone, so the public comes away with the impression that the state will smack down anyone who dares operates an illegal online gambling website in Nevada.

    With that said, I think the AG might be willing to accept a plea. The plea bargain will have to be tough enough to where it doesn't have to look like a slap on the wrist, but it doesn't have to be something ridiculous like years in prison. It just has to be harsh enough to where Bryan Micon can be used as an example of why you don't want to run illegal online gambling websites in Nevada. So something like 6 months in state prison and a surrendering of all profits he made from Seals would probably be sufficient. You know... something to where Micon walks away from it worse off than before he got involved with Seals, or at least to where that's the public's impression.

    I think Micon is delusional. He sees how Chesnoff has worked miracles for others accused of gambling-related misdeeds in Nevada, and somehow feels that buying the best attorney will somehow produce a miracle. Maybe he's encouraged by Paul Phua's recent courtroom victories. But I think that, sometime between February 11th and mid-April, Micon decided that this expat thing isn't for him, and that he should invest some money into fighting this thing. I don't think he realizes how badly the deck is stacked against him on this one, and how they hold so much evidence that he would have a very poor chance of beating it in court. He is just looking at this as, "I hired a great attorney, maybe he can find a loophole for me."

    I think Chesnoff & Schonfeld realize how bad it looks for Micon, but they're happy to take his money to defend him anyway. I think they have limited their advice thus far to, "Come back to Vegas and face this", and Micon isn't ready to do that yet. They're probably telling him that they can't help him much (or at all) if he's going to hide in Antigua and continue running new Seals. All of their statements are along the lines of, "We have advised Mr. Micon of his obligations", meaning that they are only at the stage right now of trying to convince him to come back. I think Micon envisioned something different -- to where the superlawyers would arrange a favorable plea deal while he sat in the comfort and relative safety of Antigua. But from what I can see, it appears they just want him to come back so the defense can proceed.

    It will get interesting when Micon finally comes to terms with the fact that he will probably face actual jail time -- and that they also may extradite him if he continues to hide from it. At some point he may finally throw up his hands and just face the music. Or perhaps he won't. It's impossible to predict his actions. I learned that many years ago.
    David Chesnoff is very good at defending mobsters and other organized crime members.
    But Micon isn't a mobster, he's just an over-grown kid who decided to commit criminal acts by running an unlicensed online poker site from Nevada.

    Whatever Micon had stashed away in Bitcoins is gone. The money he might have given to his daughter is history.

    The $50K or $100K that Micon gave Chesnoff & Schonfled as a retainer won't last forever.
    The longer the case goes on the more Micon will owe, I wouldn't be surprised that Micon's legal bills rise to somewhere between $250K to $500K.
    Especially if Micon's case is picked up by the feds.

    Does anyone believe that Micon will do well in prison?



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    Quote Originally Posted by SenseiKreese View Post
    TV news story on Micon and the charges

    http://www.8newsnow.com/story/289244...lipId=11439764
    This is incredible.

     
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    I agree with Druff that Micon is no hero...

    Micon's law breaking was profit driven primarily; were he a Ghandi or King like hero, would he have fled the country? or claimed police state?

    everything said by other posters in this thread about the unfairness of the online poker situation is true and the corruption of persons behind Micon's arrest warrant i pretty much agree with also...

    but Micon is not the guy to rally behind a fight for online poker
    (long before there was a PFA i had my Grenade & Crossbones avatar at DD)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrenadaRoger View Post
    I agree with Druff that Micon is no hero...

    Micon's law breaking was profit driven primarily; were he a Ghandi or King like hero, would he have fled the country? or claimed police state?

    everything said by other posters in this thread about the unfairness of the online poker situation is true and the corruption of persons behind Micon's arrest warrant i pretty much agree with also...

    but Micon is not the guy to rally behind a fight for online poker



    Micon is no saint


    but at least he's out there swinging for the fences

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    'Bryan Micon Attempted to Buy Lock Poker and “Make All Players Whole”'

    Micon likened Lock Poker to “Chrysler of the early 90s” in his attempt to persuade site owner to part with the tainted brand.



    LOL, remember that French company that first tried to buy Full Tilt before Pokerstars was forced into it?



    But the worst part of that PokerFuse article is the self incrimination here:

    "Hi Jennifer, I’m interested in buying the Lock Poker brand and all its software assets. You can give me a quick google and see that I started SealsWithClubs.eu in 2011 and amassed a considerable wealth with the increase in Bitcoin price. I plan to relaunch the brand and make all players whole. I consider Lock Poker like Chrysler of the early 90’s. It’s a strong brand that needs a turn-around."

     
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    "Bryan Miacocca" may have just have supplanted "Antiguan Minister of Bitcoin" --- sorry Drexel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyde View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GrenadaRoger View Post
    I agree with Druff that Micon is no hero...

    Micon's law breaking was profit driven primarily; were he a Ghandi or King like hero, would he have fled the country? or claimed police state?

    everything said by other posters in this thread about the unfairness of the online poker situation is true and the corruption of persons behind Micon's arrest warrant i pretty much agree with also...

    but Micon is not the guy to rally behind a fight for online poker



    Micon is no saint


    but at least he's out there swinging for the fences
    I don't think committing a felony classifies as "swinging for the fences". He's going to see a lot of fences where he is going. They will have barb wire at the top of them.
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    MICON GONNA MICON

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
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    Jurys dont determine the outcome of the penalty phase, do they? They only assess guilty/not guilty, and there is literally no chance at all Micon fades a guilty plea in a trial.
    Oh, Tsarnaev will be pleased to learn this.

    Admittedly, it depends. But you want to bet what Tsarnaev decision life or death penalty will be? Flip a coin & welcome to the crap game of american justice.
    Juries are used to determine guilt or innocence, except in federal death penalty cases. (When Death Penalty is involved, federal juries weigh in on that decision as well. Does not apply w/Micon obv.)

     
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    The news report video is HOF because they keep referring to him a lot like he is Prince, Madonna, or Cher by saying "Micon'".

    That is legendary status and the only thing that would be better is if they called him Micon the Icon or King of the Degenerates.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker View Post
    The news report video is HOF because they keep referring to him a lot like he is Prince, Madonna, or Cher by saying "Micon'".

    That is legendary status and the only thing that would be better is if they called him Micon the Icon or King of the Degenerates.
    Do you watch the news? It's very common and almost standard that they refer to people by their last names only.
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    I have had Issues with credit cards in Europe
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    you're more consumed with accumulating wealth than achieving spiritual enlightenment
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    Getting a little surf and turf tonight. In my world that is Sea Bass with a nice lobster tail on the side. And grilled asparagus. It's nice having money.

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