IS SEALS WITH CLUBS DONKDOWN??? (Update: Micon charged with a felony in Nevada)

[FRANKRIZZO]

If I wanted to pursue charges against the core management of the SWC team, the first link in that kill chain would be confiscating everything that beeped from the home of its one public member and sifting through it bit by bit.

Its hard to imagine that there isnt a wealth of forensic evidence in there to lead them to the other members doorsteps.

Exactly, which is why we described this as a breech of operational security as opposed to the standard theft related attempted break-ins that we constantly fought off. I don't believe Micon actually had any real information about any other team members but it's hard to be sure. The only sensible thing to do was to close operations and begin the process of getting everyone their balances as quickly as possible.

They must have communicated though. He had to communicate with the seals owners with regard to promotions and that type of stuff. Any chance we can get you on the radio? So many questions .

[sonatine]

garrett its not even 5pm and youre already drunk.


then again i suppose thats not a problem for someone who lost his job waxing floors.


as you were.

[garrett]

garrett its not even 5pm and youre already drunk.


then again i suppose thats not a problem for someone who lost his job waxing floors.


as you were.

IT IS GAME OVER. SHUT IT THE FUCK DOWN!!!

[Cokehead]

hdev hi, glad u dropped by.

You dont have to answer this but its gotta annoy you that Micon tells the LV sun that he was only marketing and other anonymous guys ran it. Looks like throwing under the bus to me. Its just gonna make the ngc want to find you other guys that much more. Pretty fucked up imo. All the $ he made being the face of seals came w/the risk he assumed. Now it looks like hes trying to blame the hands that fed him for all these years. I wanted to throw up after reading that article. You seem like a class act, hope they never find you.

Also garrett stfu, stop fucking up this thread idiot.

[garrett]

hdev hi, glad u dropped by.

You dont have to answer this but its gotta annoy you that Micon tells the LV sun that he was only marketing and other anonymous guys ran it. Looks like throwing under the bus to me. Its just gonna make the ngc want to find you other guys that much more. Pretty fucked up imo. All the $ he made being the face of seals came w/the risk he assumed. Now it looks like hes trying to blame the hands that fed him for all these years. I wanted to throw up after reading that article. You seem like a class act, hope they never find you.

Also garrett stfu, stop fucking up this thread idiot.

This is what you idiots especially the Sonatine "lovers" don't get. I know what I am doing and why I am doing it. It was time this subject, GOT SHUT THE FUCK DOWN.

SWC offered a great and safe place to play online poker, esp these days. To come on his arch nemesis site and start feeding you scumbags, who IMO less than 10% ever even played on seals let alone frequented it, all kinds of info is very bad. Especially to Micon, have a little respect!
THIS ISN'T THE PLACE!!!

[Sicilian]

I don't believe Micon actually had any real information about any other team members but it's hard to be sure.

I'll be incredibly impressed if the other team member(s) were that careful with their identity from the very outset, and even prior to Seals creation.

Or are you saying this information was easily available in other ways?

[sonatine]

I know what I am doing and why I am doing it.

[superallah]

proof.

[Sicilian]

SWC offered a great and safe place to play online poker, esp these days. To come on his arch nemesis site and start feeding you scumbags, who IMO less than 10% ever even played on seals let alone frequented it, all kinds of info is very bad. Especially to Micon, have a little respect!
THIS ISN'T THE PLACE!!!

This thread brought me here. I loved Seals, and will also play on the new site. I'm sympathetic to what you are saying, but I have to know the dirt as well. This information won't remain secret for long anyway.

[cmoney]

Everything was going great the last 3 pages until fucking Garrett jumped in. Now the Seals rep was scared off. Sonatine was asking great questions and you cluttered it up with your bullshit Garrett.

[garrett]

SWC offered a great and safe place to play online poker, esp these days. To come on his arch nemesis site and start feeding you scumbags, who IMO less than 10% ever even played on seals let alone frequented it, all kinds of info is very bad. Especially to Micon, have a little respect!
THIS ISN'T THE PLACE!!!

This thread brought me here. I loved Seals, and will also play on the new site. I'm sympathetic to what you are saying, but I have to know the dirt as well. This information won't remain secret for long anyway.

And I get that, but there is a thing in this world called sealed indictments, and investigations that are actively happening (possibly). Everyone knows DanDruff was Micons ex partner and runs a fairly active forum in the poker community. My point is out of respect for the site and him, this isn't the place.

Sonatine has bad intentions, same way he just doxd me in this thread for the 100th time on this site (think about it). NOT THE GUY OR THE PLACE, was my only point. I hope you understand that much.

[garrett]

Everything was going great the last 3 pages until fucking Garrett jumped in. Now the Seals rep was scared off. Sonatine was asking great questions and you cluttered it up with your bullshit Garrett.

cmoney he left for a reason. SWC knows me and that I care. You all may hate me, but lol that you think EVERYONE does. I'm not a bich or a fish like you idiots on this forum, who i watched for 2 years dawg SWC as no good, and loln at how it was gonna end bad. Now you are all just predictably piling on. Thats fine, but leave the nitty gritty details of how the site was run etc OUT!

The vast majority of you all here would love nothing more than a dirty charge and him getting jail time, thats a fact. Not everyone agrees!

NOTHING going on in this threads last 5 pages was anything conducive to the current situation, other than trouble for SWC and Micon. Considering the vast majority of you all would love to see him get in trouble and bitcoin fail (sonatine) I get it. I was the one who you all hate enough that could of SHUT THIS THREAD DOWN. Which was the RIGHT thing to do, maybe 5 years from now thats not the case, but for today that is the case!


And fwiw hdev knows who I am, others on seals know I was here writing this. You think the "rep" just dissapeared bc "garrett" was trolling. I never took you for such a dumb guy CMONEY, until recently!

He left for a reason and he knows who I am and why I was saying what I was saying, CMONEY!

[WillieMcFML]

shut up garrett

adults were talking

[Mr. Schaller]

Everything was going great the last 3 pages until fucking Garrett jumped in. Now the Seals rep was scared off. Sonatine was asking great questions and you cluttered it up with your bullshit Garrett.

This one has been 'fucking things up' his entire life: first his friendships, then his schooling, then me, then his mother's mental health, then his mugshots etc. etc.

Son I will hire you back and you can beat me all you want just leave mother alone. I fear that your most recent 'episode' has pushed her over the edge.

[Ricky]

You all may hate me, but lol that you think EVERYONE does. I'm not a bich or a fish like you idiots on this forum

JFC....This is why we cant have anything nice.

Time to shut down this mong Todd. Hes ruining important threads.

STFU Garret.

[sonatine]

in before more drunken shitposting as a response.

[Pooh]

Time for Garrett to nap it out for awhile Druff. The guys -260 for a reason.

[4BET]

Time for Garrett to nap it out for awhile Druff. The guys -260 for a reason.

Not fair to give Garrett a nap just because he has different opinions on some topics

[hdev_swc]

The physical server, which was set up as a hypervisor for multiple servers, had a hard fault that caused the machine to be taken down without us being notified. The root cause was said to be a failed drive, though the hardware should have been fine to have a drive hot swapped in and that did not happen. Our host replaced the drive while the machine was down, which took much longer than expected. The event logs support the theory that the drives could have been imaged during this time. The timing of the outage was also very suspect.

Unlike the password fiasco from a couple years ago, this wasn't a break in attempt to steal funds; it appears to have been an attempt to get information about the operator of the server. There is still the possibility that it was a freak timing and hardware coincidence but given everything that was happening we couldn't seriously write off the events as coincidence. The reality is that it was becoming clear that no matter where your server is hosted, it is going to be under constant attack. If not from people trying to break in to steal, then by people trying to extort money from you, and with the NGCB actions, from governments.

We always put the security of player balances first and with everything going on around us, it was getting to the point that I didn't know if we could honestly live up to that.

There have been constant crashes and restarts on the new site. Do you think player funds are secure on the new site? All of the online sites seem to be under attack. A player on merge figured out how to crash everyone while still staying connected in their big tournament .

I have no reason to believe Micon would suddenly throw away the knowledge and experience he's picked up from working with the old seals. Micon always shared everyone else's concern over keeping player funds safe. That said, I don't know his technical team and do not feel qualified to be weighing in on any site out there. It's up to individuals to decide where they play and who to trust.

[Texter]

how many owners were there on seals...everyone thinks micon had 50% which is clearly not true.

if he had no skin in the game he shouldn't have gotten much unless he could really drive player growth as sort of a bonus system.

this HDEV guy sounds too smart to give away the farm to micon until micon proved he could bring the hits.