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    Fuck Heritage Sports

    I think the sportsbetting gods are conspiring to keep me on Bovada.

    First I had the ID issue with 5Dimes, and then decided not to deposit there because of the negative posts about owner Tony.

    So I went to Heritage and tried to sign up. Heritage did not have bad reviews about the ownership, also offered reduced juice, and also had a good payout record.

    However, Hertitage's system gave me an error message with a reference number, and told me to call customer service.

    I called the next day (yesterday), and spoke to a "Marco" there. Marco looked into it, and came back with the report that my phone number came up in another person's name. I explained to Marco that I have a family cell plan, and that it's impossible to separate names out like that. (They must have been accessing a Caller ID database, btw.)

    So I asked if an exception could be made, especially if I could prove my identity some other way. Marco said he would contact "management" and get back to me within 30 minutes.

    No call back.

    I called back myself about 5 hours later, and Marco told me that he would have to get approval from upper management for this, and I should call for him the next day (today) to find out the answer.

    I called just now and got a "Luis" on the phone. Marco wasn't available for whatever reason. Luis told me that their "security scrubber" demands that all info is "accurate", or people can't have accounts there.

    I asked, "So if your phone is in the name of a relative or a roommate, you can't have an account here?"

    "That's correct," said Marco.

    But then I realized there was a way out of this. I had another phone -- one I don't use often -- which was in my name. Keep in mind that the system did NOT request a phone that was in my name when I signed up. It asked for my phone number, and I gave the true and accurate phone that I use most often.

    I asked Luis if I could sign up again under a new account with the phone number in my name. He said go ahead and try.

    So I did. Even used a different e-mail address.



    Still didn't work. Gave me the same error message and reference number.

    I called up and got Luis again. He said that there was apparently no way to override the first "bad" account I created. He then chided me for "giving inaccurate information" and told me, "You shouldn't have given a phone number that isn't yours."

    I responded, "The phone is mine. It's the phone I carry and use every day. The system asked me for my phone number, and I gave true and accurate information. All of the other information I provided was also true and accurate. So what did I do wrong?"

    He replied, "You did nothing wrong. But hundreds of people get new accounts here every day with no problem, and for some reason you decided to give a phone number that is someone else's."



    I argued that the whole point of a customer service number is to have a human being make a common sense decision regarding overriding a computer-based denial. I pointed out that, if the computer decides everything, there isn't even a point to have a customer service number.

    He just repeated that I gave someone else's phone number, and that the "security scrubber" caught it.

    I then asked for a manager.

    "I am a manager," he said.

    I said, "No, I'd like to speak to YOUR manager."

    "I'm a VIP account manger," he told me. "You aren't going to speak to anyone higher than me."

    I told him, "Looks like you lost my action then", and hung up.

    F them.

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    Nothing wrong with 5dimes as long as you aren't an advantage sports bettor or trying to angle them. I am just a square that bets reduced lines with a $500 cap and never had any problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
    Nothing wrong with 5dimes as long as you aren't an advantage sports bettor or trying to angle them. I am just a square that bets reduced lines with a $500 cap and never had any problems.
    What is an advantage bettor though?

    I know they won't mind my 52% type winning record, but what if I start out hot and win 67% of my bets for some time. Will they ban me and take my money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
    Nothing wrong with 5dimes as long as you aren't an advantage sports bettor or trying to angle them. I am just a square that bets reduced lines with a $500 cap and never had any problems.
    What is an advantage bettor though?

    I know they won't mind my 52% type winning record, but what if I start out hot and win 67% of my bets for some time. Will they ban me and take my money?
    Prob not, 5dimes should be fine. Also why not use BCP/ACR or Intertops?

    No matter what book you play at there are going to be SOME horror stories out there. Also why heritage? Not 100 % but I don't think they are great

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    I have never heard of them taking money from someone just for winning. They might cut you off if they determine you are beating them and not just a donk on a heater, but they let you withdraw your balance.

    From the stories I heard people get in trouble with Tony when they do stuff like set up fake accounts, try to bet lines that are obvious mistakes, or try to roll the sight with fake credit cards and stuff like that.

    It is probably an analagous situation to an aggressive pit boss giving you a hard time when it looks like you are using a counting system in blackjack.

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    They only explanation is the sportsbook spies heard about the tomato incident at Subway and they find it not worth their time to take Druff's business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
    Nothing wrong with 5dimes as long as you aren't an advantage sports bettor or trying to angle them. I am just a square that bets reduced lines with a $500 cap and never had any problems.
    What is an advantage bettor though?

    I know they won't mind my 52% type winning record, but what if I start out hot and win 67% of my bets for some time. Will they ban me and take my money?
    have you tried sportsbook.ag?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker View Post
    They only explanation is the sportsbook spies heard about the tomato incident at Subway and they find it not worth their time to take Druff's business.
    No over/unders on the side, obv.

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    mike@heritagesports.com explain wtf happened.

    also call and ask for john in sales tomorrow morning and tell him.

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    Try America's card room...all you guys are more experienced than me but I have yet to hear of a horror story about them keeping somebody's money illegitamatly and they do have a rep of paying very fast also 1 free check a month..Evan though there not "regulated" they really do have a very decent rep and competent custermer service..

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    If you are going to bet sports for the most part the best option is Betdsi as they have the same poker as acr instead of playing at ACR sports book especially come baseball as they deal a 20 cent line this is a reply to Sparten no way would i choose dsi over 5crimes or Heritage. 5dimes u cant go wrong as long as you dont fck off Tony which i have done many times.. once so much he threaten to have someone come to my house and gave me the exit # to get off to get to the Residential Neighborhood but never would they fuck u out of your money. Heritage is also a great option. Druff offshore is in a downward spiral my friend nothing like it use to be so you have to take the good with the bad. But all 3 of those books are superior to Bovada in Limits, Time lines come out and Payouts. Bodog& Bovada have been dealing dual lines for yrs Druff its not a coincidence you kept getting the worst of it.

    If I we're u I would find a reliable agent that you no would pay u and you can have access to these same sites without all the headache of doing this crap with id's and shit. I mean your rep is great no reason u cant find a pph that runs out of betdsi or heritage.
    Last edited by badguy23; 01-21-2015 at 06:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesparten View Post
    Try America's card room...all you guys are more experienced than me but I have yet to hear of a horror story about them keeping somebody's money illegitamatly and they do have a rep of paying very fast also 1 free check a month..Evan though there not "regulated" they really do have a very decent rep and competent custermer service..
    ACR sportbook is very mediocre and one free check of just $3k isn't what Druff is looking to do, however, they do have bitcoin deposits and withdraws now.

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    I figured you guys would know the angles way better than I..just throwing it out there..here in new York we are very very limited..just being a rec player I don't mind paying an extra point if your going to be honest and pay on time when I need it.but then again I'm new in this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesparten View Post
    I figured you guys would know the angles way better than I..just throwing it out there..here in new York we are very very limited..just being a rec player I don't mind paying an extra point if your going to be honest and pay on time when I need it.but then again I'm new in this game.
    Wasn't being a smart ass but Cris/Bookmaker/Betdsi own ACR so if you are betting sports more than poker go with one of them if you are getting rake back and play poker more stay with acr.

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    Didn't think u were..sorry if it came across like that..I predominatly just play poker..if ACR had more traffic I think it would be a serious contender..its better than full flush and bol IS RIGGED..

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    Check out Nitrogen Sports its for bitcoins though. They have really good customer support and a streamlined betting format. Let me give you an affiliate link if you do please. Their poker room is aids.
    Last edited by FRANKRIZZO; 01-21-2015 at 09:09 PM.

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    why not just play on sportsbook?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rollinx420 View Post
    why not just play on sportsbook?
    $2500 per month withdrawals

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    SportsFraudAlert.com coming soon

     
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    TRUMP 2024!

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    Just non-stop unrelenting LGBT propaganda being shoved down our throats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PLOL View Post
    SportsFraudAlert.com coming soon
    10 years too late

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