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    180 Marijuana Dispensaries Pop Up In Detroit

    DETROIT (WWJ) - One of the fastest growing businesses in the Motor City has many residents raising concerns: Medical marijuana dispensaries.
    “This is the next big thing in the city of Detroit,” said Councilman James Tate. “It’s quiet for folks who are not really paying attention, but everyday it seems like another business is opening up.”
    Tate told WWJ’s Charlie Langton the number of medical marijuana dispensaries within city limits is “staggering.”
    “The estimate is 180 medical marijuana dispensaries within the city of Detroit,” he said. “I’ve counted 13 in District One myself. We see some locations, certainly along 8 Mile and other border streets, where you have four, five, six kind of clustered together.”
    Even though state law allows registered patients to use marijuana for medical purposes, dispensaries have gone largely unregulated.
    “I’m for compassionate care but am also concerned about the over saturation of them,” Tate said. “These buildings, they have now just started popping up everywhere and because the state law is not clear on if they’re allowed or not, we take these businesses to court and they just get tied up and they just stay there. We have not won not one case, nothing has been shut down and that’s the reason why. Most of these businesses don’t have a permit, they have no licensing.”
    Aside from legal issues, Tate said he’s also concerned about community members who live near the dispensaries.
    “We’ve got a lot of complaints about it but some of that is emotional because they just don’t like the issue. The other part of it is people are not educated on it,” he said. “It’s not about being against it. It’s about making sure that we’re able to regulate it in a way that ensures the best quality of life for the residents who live in that area.”
    Tate said their hands are basically tied until lawmakers in Lansing can refine the medical marijuana law and include measures about dispensaries.
    “We’re trying to get state law clarified to allow us to provide the tools necessary for our law enforcement to go in and regulate those businesses,” he said. “But it’s a lot bigger than just Detroit and we’re going to need some support from around the state.”

    http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2015/01/...g-in-the-city/

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    Even with the new laws just passed in the latest spending bill, without state regs unfortunately these dispensaries will start seeing raids by the feds on a regular basis. This is the biggest problem with the industry right now. Politicians drag their feet on this issue, so states with medical marijuana laws don't get out in front of the industry by creating regulations, and then this happens. Michigan will now be a giant mess for many years to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegas1369 View Post
    Even with the new laws just passed in the latest spending bill, without state regs unfortunately these dispensaries will start seeing raids by the feds on a regular basis. This is the biggest problem with the industry right now. Politicians drag their feet on this issue, so states with medical marijuana laws don't get out in front of the industry by creating regulations, and then this happens. Michigan will now be a giant mess for many years to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker View Post
    When it comes to Michigan everyone here with a weed card is 100% medically in need of it.
    And that right there is the real shame of this issue. This shit should have been taken care of years ago, Michigan approved MMJ almost 7 years ago, yet just like a lot of other states, never allowed for dispensaries.

    Here is what will happen next...

    Politicians will start paying attention because A) it's a hot button topic, B) dispensaries are popping up and the government is not seeing any revenue from it.

    They will come up with regulations. This will take about a year or two. Local jurisdictions will then adopt the regs and also come up with their own, especially when it comes to zoning and business licenses.

    The state will come up with a merit based application process, most likely handled by the state health department. Local jurisdictions will come up with applications as well for special use permits and business licenses. All of these dispensaries will then be told they have to apply or be shut down. Lot's of law suits will follow, as well as raids.

    Local corruption then comes into play. Lots of money at stake here, big players will want in, small guys will be shut out. Lawyers and lobbyists will make a shitload of money.

    Shit will then become even more of a mess.

    Had Michigan just got out in front of this issue this would not go down like this. Now you are looking at 4 years + before you have a legit state run system.

    All along legitimate patients suffer the consequences.

    But hey, at least we're making progress.

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    Local corruption then comes into play. Lots of money at stake here, big players will want in, small guys will be shut out. Lawyers and lobbyists will make a shitload of money.
    But the whole concept of "medical marijuana" itself is extremely corrupt.

    A tiny percentage of those buying "medical" marijuana are really doing so for medicinal purposes. The vast, vast, VAST majority are recreational users who find one of many shady doctors to write prescriptions for "back pain" or other BS, so they can buy the drugs legally.

    So the whole thing is really a joke.

    Honestly one of three things should be done:

    1) Place TIGHT restrictions on what medical marijuana can be used for, and limit the number of patients for whom each doctor can write prescriptions (like a very low limit).
    -or-
    2) Make it completely illegal again.
    -or-
    3) Make it completely legal.

    But I don't see the point with continuing with a sham medicinal system which enriches shady doctors and only a tiny percentage of users are really doing so as intended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Local corruption then comes into play. Lots of money at stake here, big players will want in, small guys will be shut out. Lawyers and lobbyists will make a shitload of money.
    But the whole concept of "medical marijuana" itself is extremely corrupt.

    A tiny percentage of those buying "medical" marijuana are really doing so for medicinal purposes. The vast, vast, VAST majority are recreational users who find one of many shady doctors to write prescriptions for "back pain" or other BS, so they can buy the drugs legally.

    So the whole thing is really a joke.

    Honestly one of three things should be done:

    1) Place TIGHT restrictions on what medical marijuana can be used for, and limit the number of patients for whom each doctor can write prescriptions (like a very low limit).
    -or-
    2) Make it completely illegal again.
    -or-
    3) Make it completely legal.

    But I don't see the point with continuing with a sham medicinal system which enriches shady doctors and only a tiny percentage of users are really doing so as intended.
    If this program can stop even one person from feeling pain then it was totally worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Local corruption then comes into play. Lots of money at stake here, big players will want in, small guys will be shut out. Lawyers and lobbyists will make a shitload of money.
    But the whole concept of "medical marijuana" itself is extremely corrupt.

    A tiny percentage of those buying "medical" marijuana are really doing so for medicinal purposes. The vast, vast, VAST majority are recreational users who find one of many shady doctors to write prescriptions for "back pain" or other BS, so they can buy the drugs legally.

    So the whole thing is really a joke.

    Honestly one of three things should be done:

    1) Place TIGHT restrictions on what medical marijuana can be used for, and limit the number of patients for whom each doctor can write prescriptions (like a very low limit).
    -or-
    2) Make it completely illegal again.
    -or-
    3) Make it completely legal.

    But I don't see the point with continuing with a sham medicinal system which enriches shady doctors and only a tiny percentage of users are really doing so as intended.
    This is typically the conservative POV on this issue.

    First off, the bold part. Please show me a reputable source for that statement.

    How many dispensaries have you been to? I have been to a lot of them, and I know a lot of dispensary owners in Cali and CO who would show you actual proof that this statement is very wrong. While I agree that a lot of people are getting these cards simply because they want to get high, there are a LOT more people than you think that clearly need this for its medicinal values. One could also argue that EVERYONE that you think is using for recreational purposes is actually using for medicinal purposes to some degree. Whether it be to relax, to help sleep, to be in a better mood... That's medicine by today's standards.

    Druff, do you think it's just a coincidence that the states with legitimate MMJ programs have seen over a 25% decrease in overdose from prescription drugs?

    Also, limiting doctors on the amount of prescriptions they are allowed to issue is a terrible idea. All that will do is drive up the costs of obtaining a medical card, and those fees are already very high in most states. Do you think it's better for a doctor to be forced to prescribe someone prescription drugs over medical marijuana because he/she is limited on the amount of prescriptions allowed?

     
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    What really blows me away is why does someone like Druff even care what people are getting medical cards for?

    Why does it bother people that this is, in their opinion, a "sham"? Who cares what an adult does in the privacy of their own home?

    Aren't we past the point that it's obvious the war on drugs has been an absolute failure?

    Why would people not want to regulate this and tax it as opposed to allowing the black market to thrive selling marijuana?

    Isn't it obvious to people by now that if someone in a state where marijuana is illegal wants to get marijuana they are still able to get it?


    Funny thing is one of the biggest arguments is always about children getting their hands on it, not realizing that legalization and education is a much better means to deter adolescent use as opposed to keeping it illegal. To a lot of kids now in legal states marijuana is "not cool", as opposed to being something that "is cool" and is used as a form of rebellion.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Local corruption then comes into play. Lots of money at stake here, big players will want in, small guys will be shut out. Lawyers and lobbyists will make a shitload of money.
    But the whole concept of "medical marijuana" itself is extremely corrupt.

    A tiny percentage of those buying "medical" marijuana are really doing so for medicinal purposes. The vast, vast, VAST majority are recreational users who find one of many shady doctors to write prescriptions for "back pain" or other BS, so they can buy the drugs legally.
    I would argue that the majority of even recreational users are self-medicating
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    Quote Originally Posted by vegas1369 View Post
    What really blows me away is why does someone like Druff even care what people are getting medical cards for?

    Why does it bother people that this is, in their opinion, a "sham"? Who cares what an adult does in the privacy of their own home?

    Aren't we past the point that it's obvious the war on drugs has been an absolute failure?

    Why would people not want to regulate this and tax it as opposed to allowing the black market to thrive selling marijuana?

    Isn't it obvious to people by now that if someone in a state where marijuana is illegal wants to get marijuana they are still able to get it?


    Funny thing is one of the biggest arguments is always about children getting their hands on it, not realizing that legalization and education is a much better means to deter adolescent use as opposed to keeping it illegal. To a lot of kids now in legal states marijuana is "not cool", as opposed to being something that "is cool" and is used as a form of rebellion.
    Not to mention the fact that it is much easier for high school kids to get weed than to get alcohol precisely because of the black market
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Local corruption then comes into play. Lots of money at stake here, big players will want in, small guys will be shut out. Lawyers and lobbyists will make a shitload of money.
    But the whole concept of "medical marijuana" itself is extremely corrupt.

    A tiny percentage of those buying "medical" marijuana are really doing so for medicinal purposes. The vast, vast, VAST majority are recreational users who find one of many shady doctors to write prescriptions for "back pain" or other BS, so they can buy the drugs legally.

    So the whole thing is really a joke.

    Honestly one of three things should be done:

    1) Place TIGHT restrictions on what medical marijuana can be used for, and limit the number of patients for whom each doctor can write prescriptions (like a very low limit).
    -or-
    2) Make it completely illegal again.
    -or-
    3) Make it completely legal.

    But I don't see the point with continuing with a sham medicinal system which enriches shady doctors and only a tiny percentage of users are really doing so as intended.
    Marijuana was finally made illegal around 1970. The reason was that it had no medicinal purposes. Medical marijuana is just one step in getting it completely legalized. So your option 3 is the most correct.

    "Manufacturing" marijuana is a completely natural process. I don't understand how people that believe in God can be against marijuana. Aren't they saying that God really fucked up when he made marijuana?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by herbertstemple View Post
    Marijuana was finally made illegal around 1970. The reason was that Nixon was a complete paranoid dick who wanted to shut down the "hippies" and their movement against his policies in Vietnam, and rescheduled it even though his own committee told him not to. Medical marijuana is just one step in getting it completely legalized. So your option 3 is the most correct.
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