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    Sac under looking great EXCEPT the OT possibility. 96-96 with 3 mins to go. I seem to be an OT magnet when I bet under.

    Dallas looking shitty in the first half. Started off awful, came back to tie, down 3 after the half. Utah has been better than expected lately. Almost didn't fire Dallas here for that reason, especially giving up 6.5. 3rd quarter will be huge on this one.

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    Looks like another failday.

    Dallas couldn't close out a big comeback and increasing lead, as they let Utah get close again, and it ended up 103-100 Mavericks.

    Washington under lost earlier, and the Miami under barely won thanks to Tyler Herro breaking a 107-107 tie with 2.7s left.

    Sac over going crappy. 69-62 with 16 minutes left to play. Ugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simpdog View Post
    At least you're not flying with Air Canada ....then you wouldn't be flying your flight would be canceled.

    Leafs -0.5 +100 first period.


    and going under for MLB under 7.5
    Thanks Simpdog. My credit card company would like to know if you are going to be making picks more frequently.

    Let us know when the next no hitter is scheduled

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    Australian NBL Perth Wildcats v Tasmania Jack Jumpers - 2 Hours away

    Tasmania Jack Jumpers(+5.5)
    ML +170
    Over 165.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok25 View Post
    Australian NBL Perth Wildcats v Tasmania Jack Jumpers - 2 Hours away

    Tasmania Jack Jumpers(+5.5)
    ML +170
    Over 165.5
    I will go with the ML +175 I found on one site. Not betting the over or the spread, which I see at best is +5 right now.

    GL us

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    Well apparently people agree with you, ok25, because the line is moving.

    I am finding myself very limited on the bets I can place here. I was limited to $100 on one site for +175. Then I was limited to $71 (lol) on another site for +171. Then I was about to place some more on BOL at +168. but that changed to +158 while I was placing it, so fuck that.

    So I guess I will have to stick with my $171.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Well apparently people agree with you, ok25, because the line is moving.

    I am finding myself very limited on the bets I can place here. I was limited to $100 on one site for +175. Then I was limited to $71 (lol) on another site for +171. Then I was about to place some more on BOL at +168. but that changed to +158 while I was placing it, so fuck that.

    So I guess I will have to stick with my $171.


    They know these games are a liability much more often than NBA/Euro's

    Perth are garbage this year but apologies if I end up humbled

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    Shooting was abysmal first 15(35% Both Teams) to fuck the over hitting, glad you skipped that one

    Perth #1 option got them ahead 29-20 Early 2ndQ getting to the line but the rest of the team are trash lately

    Perth
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    Missed over by 4.

    2/3

     
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    Weird line movements on Thursday night football, Seems they want us squares to unload on Philly, Line 14 now back to 13.5. Line has done this a few times
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    I'm actually on the phone regarding the last $100 I bet on that Tasmania game last night, which won (thanks again ok25).

    It was deducted and listed as "Wager", but did not show up in my pending bets, and the description in my transaction page just showed "Wager $100" without specifying what it was.

    I chatted with customer service, and they assured me it was just a system fail and that they'd resolve it at 8am EDT. Well, with the game starting at 6:30am EDT, no chance I was going to let them decide at 8am. So I told them I needed a commitment right then whether it was a bet or not. The chat CS rep told me it was indeed a bet.

    I checked today, and I still have $100 listed as "pending" with no bets actually shown pending. Fail.

    I'm on the phone right now, and they are looking into it. This is NOT Betonline, but another book I use, which has been reputable up until now. We shall see. I am not going to accept no for an answer, since I got their guarantee before the game that this $100 bet was real. Therefore, they owe me the $100 BACK plus the $171 I won from it. They paid out the first $171 I bet, so that's not an issue -- only the last $100 bet which is stuck somehow.

     
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    Wow, these assholes are refusing to pay it, and are calling it a cancelled bet.

    I'm furiously arguing on the phone with them right now. It's Betanysports, in case you're wondering -- the former 5 Dimes.

    Keep in mind that it's only a matter of $171, so it's a complete joke that they are fighting me on this.

    Their claim is that the bet was disallowed by the third at the time I placed it, and therefore I should not get the $171 winnings, but just get the $100 back. They claim that the fact that I didn't see it as a "pending bet" is proof that it was cancelled, and I should have known this.

    But that's bullshit. The bet actually has a ticket number, the $100 was deducted from my account, and it shows "Wager placed" on my transaction history. And beyond that, I got a customer service rep to confirm that $100 was a real bet, about 30 minutes before gametime.

    They cannot give me a coherent reason why they aren't honoring it. I had to pull the PFA card out of my pocket, stating that I will publicize this and that it will "look terrible" if they don't pay it out.

    Former owner Tony is turning over in his grave. Pretty sure he would've paid this, as his only real issue was people he felt were trying to roll him, but he tended to be fair in situations like these.

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    I redacted the full ticket number and my balance on the site, but everything else is shown as-is.

    They're trying to say this isn't a bet. Get the fuck outta here.

     
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    You like anything Simpdog?

    I did a RL Astros. None of these games are tight. It’s plus money.

    Verlander is getting tagged with the Kershaw label. Oof. Thor is just a name from the past. This is the deciding game IMO.

    I wish a grabbed that +130 Astros series before last game, of course. Low T.

    Astros become a dynasty team perhaps.

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    Here was our chat at 2:31am-2:56am PDT. The game started at 3:30am PDT, so this chat ended 34 minutes before gametime, and I was guaranteed that the final $100 was a bet.

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    Todd Witteles 02:31 AM
    Hello. I have a missing $100. I tried to place 3 wagers on Premier Lines on Tasmania JackJumpers. One ($71) was accepted, one ($70) was not accepted and returned to my account. The third ($100) was not accepted but is missing from my account.
    You will see I only have $171 listed in Pending Bets but I have $271 subtracted since I made these bets!

    Ian 02:33 AM
    Sure, one moment let me check.

    Todd Witteles 02:33 AM
    Look at Ticket 79442XXXX
    That's the problem ticket

    Ian 02:34 AM
    Can you verify your account number and 4 digit pin?

    Todd Witteles 02:35 AM
    bXXXXX, pin XXXX

    Ian 02:36 AM
    Thank you, one moment.
    So you are looking to cancel the one of the 3 of them?

    Todd Witteles 02:39 AM
    I don't want to cancel anything. But $100 is missing. It only shows two pending bets -- one on American lines ($100), and one on Premier lines ($100)
    sorry the premier was $71, not $100
    But only two bets
    A third one, the ticket I gave you, just shows "Wager" for $100 but doesn't say waht it is, and it's not on my pending bets
    If you can convert it into the same bet as the $71 (+171 Tasmania), then I will be happy to have that also

    Ian 02:41 AM
    As of now, I am seeing the 3 bets pending.
    # Type Risk To Win Status Paid Description
    1 X 100.00 171.00 Pending 2750XXX - Bet Type: Match Winner Match: NBL Blitz Pick: Tasmania Jackjumpers-Perth Wildcats - Tasmania Jackjumpers-2022-11-03T10:30:00

    Todd Witteles 02:41 AM
    Not showing on my end. Says I only have two, for a total of $171.73 to win $297.66

    Ian 02:42 AM
    That is the information of the ticket you send me.
    Try to log out and log in back in your account and see if it changes.

    Todd Witteles 02:43 AM
    I tried already. It did not work
    Look at this
    <uploaded screen shot>
    this was from a few seconds ago
    Shows pending $271.73 but only $171.73 worth of bets

    Ian 02:46 AM
    One moment I am still checking.
    Thanks for holding it looks like there is a problem with American lines, and unfortunately, we cannot fix it on our end, you will have to reach us back after 8 am ET.

    Todd Witteles 02:51 AM
    Well is this a bet or not?
    The match goes off very shortly

    Ian 02:51 AM
    The good thing is that it shows on our end.

    Todd Witteles 02:51 AM
    So will I be guaranteed the $171 from the missing bet if it wins?
    I need to know this before it goes, because otherwise I could be freerolled where they only call it a bet if it loses, and not a bet if it wins!

    Ian 02:53 AM
    Yes, because it shows on our end.
    So it should be corrected once the american lines team review it.

    Todd Witteles 02:55 AM
    OK but there's no chance it will be cancelled in the morning, right? So I have $271 bet on this match total, correct?

    Ian 02:55 AM
    Correct!

    Todd Witteles 02:56 AM
    Thanks

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    Well the supervisor on duty told the CS rep to give me the message that they're not honoring it.

    I said that I wanted to speak to him, and was told I'd be transferred, but that I had to wait. While I was waiting I asked if a manager (above a supervisor) was available, and they said he was out for the day, and I'd have to call back after 1pm EDT tomorrow.

    I was pretty sure that today I wasn't going to get any resolution, but wanted to speak to this supervisor anyway. While on hold, I found that Betanysports is a member of OSGA, which is kind of an arbitration organization which the more reputable operations voluntarily join. OSGA has no real power, but in general sportsbooks tend to abide by their decisions if they're members. An OSGA rep once worked with PFA to resolve the dispute of badguy23 vs Bovada, where ultimately Bovada was ruled the ones in the right (and I actually agreed). OSGA initially refused to investigate due to google results showing badguy23 rolling Yebsite (lol), but I talked the (very reasonable) rep into reopening the case, and after further investigation, both he and I walked away convinced that badguy23 had attempted to roll them.

    Anyway, I was going to first talk to the supervisor today, then talk to a manager tomorrow, and then go to OSGA if still unsatisfied.

    Surprisingly, after a long hold time, the CS rep came back and told me that the supervisor changed his mind, and they decided to credit me the $171.

    They still were not clear about what to do in the future if this happens. They told me to "contact support to verify if it's a bet" next time, but that's exactly what I did here! Next time this occurs, I'll call and ask for a supervisor, rather than use the chat system.

    I liked Betanysports, so this disappointed me, but I'm glad to see that they ultimately did the right thing. Had they refused, I would have quit them.

     
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    2-0 Betting Philly this series, Verlander has looked just a shadow of his former self as of late. Verlander don’t bring his best stuff tonight and Philly wins. Philly +134
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    Denver at Oklahoma City - Under 228.5

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    NFL taking Houston +14. They're bad but 14 at home on a Thursday.

    NHL
    Hawks/LA over 6
    Bos/NYR under 6 -125

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4BET View Post
    2-0 Betting Philly this series, Verlander has looked just a shadow of his former self as of late. Verlander don’t bring his best stuff tonight and Philly wins. Philly +134
    Late money pouring in on Houston. WS over if Philly don’t win tonight
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    Checked line it was -14.

    Changed to -13.5

    Tried to put bet in, no dice goes right back to 14 in 10 seconds.

    So just took +600 Texans ML instead.

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