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    Micon taking shit for buying article on Newsweek

    After someone here posted that seals article on Newsweek I wondered if Micon is massaging his own balls all over twitter about it. Well the answer to that is yes and no. Chris Grove of onlinepokerreport.com thought what everyone here was thinking, that Micon paid for the article. This got everyone pissed cuz the same author (Leah Mcgarth Goodman) was the one who wrote that terrible article bashing legalized online poker earlier this month. I think everyone saw Micon as a sellout who would use anyone to promote his site regardless of how bad they hurt online poker.

    Micon and Chris Grove got in a big twitter smackdown and then Rich Muny of the PPA joined in too.


    Chris Grove @OPReport Aug 24
    @BryanMicon @truth_eater @Newsweek @SealsWithClubs @Kevmath Nice. How much does a paid advertorial in newsweek go for these days?

    Chris Grove @OPReport Aug 24
    @truth_eater @BryanMicon @SealsWithClubs @Kevmath Maybe I have a product I'd like to advertise to NWs readers and would like to learn more.

    Bryan Micon @BryanMicon 24h
    wait wat? @OPReport thinks @truth_eater does paid advert stories for @Newsweek?
    the internet has proven once again,
    #HatersGonnaHate

    Bryan Micon @BryanMicon 24h
    Sorry @OPReport, @truth_eater can't be bought.
    You may simply have to #DealWithIt that a @SealsWithClubs article was featured in @newsweek

    Leah McGrath Goodman @truth_eater 24h
    @OPReport @BryanMicon @SealsWithClubs @Kevmath Or maybe we should do this again when your work entails making more than zero phone calls.

    Bryan Micon @BryanMicon 24h
    I think @truth_eater just smacked down @OPReport
    re: journalistic integrity
    #ResearchFTW

    Bryan Micon @BryanMicon 23h
    What's that @OPReport?
    Something about not regurgitating childish accusations before researching them?
    Silence Lloyd, It's fucking golden

    Chris Grove @OPReport 23h
    @BryanMicon I didn't regurgitate anything. I don't have a problem with you getting exposure for your site, which I'm sure you hustled to do.

    Chris Grove @OPReport 23h
    @BryanMicon My problem remains with @truth_eater's strange choice of sources that aren't relevant to the areas they speak to.

    Chris Grove @OPReport 23h
    @BryanMicon @truth_eater And also with her sudden change of heart vis a vis the dangers unfettered access to online poker presents to kids.

    Chris Grove @OPReport 23h
    @BryanMicon @truth_eater But as for you getting a nice link to SWC in a mainstream media publication, good work.

    Bryan Micon @BryanMicon 23h
    @OPReport who else u think @truth_eater should have gone to for the bitcoin poker story?

    Leah McGrath Goodman @truth_eater 23h
    @OPReport @BryanMicon No change of heart. And my sources are always top-notch. Try calling me next time, Chris, instead of spreading rumors.

    Leah McGrath Goodman @truth_eater 23h
    @BryanMicon @OPReport W/respect,what you consider relevant at a poker news site,Chris,is never going to align with what I consider relevant.

    eah McGrath Goodman @truth_eater 23h
    @OPReport @BryanMicon FTR, I reached out to Bryan, Chris -- via another player who introduced us -- ease up on the rumor-spreading.

    Bryan Micon @BryanMicon 23h
    @OPReport I hustled hard my nigga.
    real grimy, gutter hustling. I think I sent an email, then a tweet.
    #RealJournalist

    Chris Grove @OPReport 23h
    @truth_eater In the 2 articles I've read from you wrt online gambling, you consistently failed to cite sources relevant to topic at hand.

    Chris Grove @OPReport 23h
    @BryanMicon @truth_eater I think relying on a UK online gambling aff for commentary on the US market / legality of access is weak.

    Chris Grove @OPReport 23h
    @BryanMicon @truth_eater Not a single quote from a US gaming lawyer or regulator on the subject is an odd omission.

    Chris Grove @OPReport 23h
    @BryanMicon @truth_eater And the complete lack of context concerning the offshore non-BTC sites that continue to serve US is also odd.

    Chris Grove @OPReport 23h
    @truth_eater @BryanMicon I was complimenting Brian when I said "hustle." It means to work. I can see why you might not catch the drift.

    Chris Grove @OPReport 23h
    @truth_eater If you think I care about traffic, you really don't understand where I'm coming from. All I want is for you to talk ...

    Chris Grove @OPReport 23h
    @truth_eater ... to people who actually know about the nuances of the online gambling industry when you write about online gambling.

    Chris Grove @OPReport 23h
    @truth_eater And I think @BryanMicon is actually an example of a time that you did. I just want that level of relevant source all the time.

    Chris Grove @OPReport 23h
    @Fcat_Stl @BryanMicon I don't like how @truth_eater covers the online gambling industry. I have no particular issue with Micon.

    Chris Grove @OPReport 23h
    @truth_eater @BryanMicon I'll admit, my sarcastic advertorial remark was an unnecessary ad hom. But it was genuinely frustrating to see ...

    Chris Grove @OPReport 23h
    @truth_eater @BryanMicon ... the same pattern of weird sourcing repeated in a second online gambling article only a week after the 1st.

    Bryan Micon @BryanMicon 23h
    now @OPReport you are starting to sound like a whinny bitch.
    Care to rescind your 1st accusation (NW paid article) like a #GoodScientist?


    Bryan Micon @BryanMicon 23h
    @OPReport when someone comes at me like a whinny bitch, incorrectly insinuating I paid to have an article posted, I call it how I see it.

    Chris Grove @OPReport 23h
    @BryanMicon I mean, if that's how you're going to talk to me, then why would I ever have a conversation with you?

    Chris Grove @OPReport 23h
    @BryanMicon I'm taking time to explain my position as you asked me to. And you're calling me a "whiny bitch." Makes sense.

    Chris Grove @OPReport 23h
    @BryanMicon 1) The presence of RightCasino as primary source made the article seem like a paid link placement http://bit.ly/1BSvXND

    Chris Grove @OPReport 23h
    @BryanMicon 2) The fact that all of Goodman's worries about underage gambling expressed in her last article http://bit.ly/1BSw4sG ...

    Chris Grove @OPReport 23h
    @BryanMicon ... along with tech and regulatory concerns completely disappeared for this article made it feel like an advertorial.

    Chris Grove @OPReport 23h
    @BryanMicon and, finally - 3) It's whiny, not whinny

    Bryan Micon @BryanMicon 23h
    @OPReport regarding your initial "position" - any links or sources to back it up?
    if answer is no, thats why I called you a "whinny bitch"

    Karthik Ramakrishnan @ramakrishnanx 23h
    @truth_eater @BryanMicon @OPReport when you are writing an article about online poker your statement shoes you have no respect for players

    Karthik Ramakrishnan @ramakrishnanx 23h
    @truth_eater @BryanMicon @OPReport you can put lipstick on a pig and you can act like you don't have an agenda- it doesnt pas the smell test

    Karthik Ramakrishnan @ramakrishnanx 23h
    @BryanMicon @truth_eater you should have spoken openly against her article instead of putting lipstick on the pig

    Karthik Ramakrishnan @ramakrishnanx 23h
    @BryanMicon @SealsWithClubs LMG trying to promote the illusion of journalistic integrity but smells like something else- I got no prb w u

    Karthik Ramakrishnan @ramakrishnanx 23h
    @BryanMicon @SealsWithClubs clearly you just trying to pump seals which is smart and I give props-

    Bryan Micon ‏@BryanMicon 23h
    @ramakrishnanx you mean speak openly against @truth_eater's article like this? http://t.co/i3O5h3RvRG

    Karthik Ramakrishnan @ramakrishnanx 22h
    @BryanMicon @truth_eater something more serious without F-bombs and green crayon would have been better

    Bryan Micon @BryanMicon 23h
    @ramakrishnanx as you can see, @truth_eater has me clearly listed as the marketing guy for SwC. I think my agenda is well known and public.

    Rich Muny @RichMuny 15h
    .@BryanMicon You cheer on anti-online #poker writer McGrath Goodman and bash @OPReport? Sad. #unfollowed

    Bryan Micon @BryanMicon 15h
    "@RichMuny: .@BryanMicon You cheer on anti-online #poker writer McGrath Goodman and bash @OPReport? Sad. #unfollowed"
    lulz.
    #NeverFollowed

    Rich Muny @RichMuny 15h
    .@BryanMicon Not surprised. Lulz for sure. @OPReport

    Rich Muny @RichMuny 15h
    .@BryanMicon Was wondering why you cheered on McGrath Goodman week when she bashed licensed online poker. Now we know. cc: @OPReport

    Bryan Micon @BryanMicon 15h
    @RichMuny I thought I was #Unfollowed?
    you and the rest of the poker world barely read the article. I'll explain in detail Wednesday.

    Bryan Micon @BryanMicon 15h
    @RichMuny & @OPReport do either of you even google before shooting off?
    you mean cheered her article like this?
    http://t.co/i3O5h3RvRG

    Bryan Micon @BryanMicon 15h
    @RichMuny not only did I not cheer her, the first revision had a giant dick photoshopped I thought it was too much and went with lady gaga.

    Bryan Micon @BryanMicon 14h
    @RichMuny in case you missed it, to start all this @OPReport accused award winning journalist @truth_eater of taking bribes.

    Rich Muny @RichMuny 14h
    .@BryanMicon "...award winning journalist ..." I'm surprised you didn't list her awards & accomplishments in your tweet. Lulz cc: @OPReport

    Bryan Micon @BryanMicon 14h
    @RichMuny that logical fallacy is called a "Red Herring"
    http://www.nizkor.org/features/falla...d-herring.html
    remember when you said I supported @truth_eater's article?

    Bryan Micon @BryanMicon 14h
    @RichMuny if you were a #GoodScientist you would say "oh, Micon, I'm mistaken, you didn't support that article" but you're a politician.

    Bryan Micon @BryanMicon 14h
    The best part about staying independent & not being a politician or working for anyone is that you can truly say what you feel.
    #NotBlessed

    Rich Muny @RichMuny 14h
    @BryanMicon Yes, the illustration is not supportive of the article. Not sure why you're defending the author now.

    Rich Muny @RichMuny 14h
    @BryanMicon Last week's piece was so obviously biased that some should ask questions about it.

    Rich Muny @RichMuny 14h
    @BryanMicon I would have simply defended myself & @SealsWithClubs. Don't think @OPReport was accusing you of anything.

    Bryan Micon @BryanMicon 14h
    @RichMuny you are totally right. So when the author opened a dialog with me, I asked her. Full report Wednesday @DonkDown radio.

    Bryan Micon @BryanMicon 14h
    @RichMuny I defended @truth_eater when your friend @OPReport insinuated that I or @SealsWithClubs bribed her to write an article.
    #SeemsFair

    Bryan Micon @BryanMicon 14h
    @RichMuny you would likely know more than me about this, how to shrug off bribery accusations seems like a valuable political skill.

    Bryan Micon @BryanMicon 14h
    @RichMuny & @OPReport are both welcome on @DonkDown this Wednesday to discuss this further. No matter who comes on I'll set you all str8.


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    What do you guys think, did Micon pay that bitch to write that seals article?

    I think yes, otherwise why does she go from saying online poker is hurting our kids to promoting the big btc on seals. I think Micon started talking to her just bashing the article at first but then realized she was a resource for him. Prob said that if she wants to cover the world of bitcoin poker she will get x number of chips on the site to try it out, kinda an under the table deal like that. Just looks like too much of a change of heart in a weeks time for it to not be about $, and she was already suspected of taking $ from adelson for the first article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cokehead View Post
    What do you guys think, did Micon pay that bitch to write that seals article?

    I think yes, otherwise why does she go from saying online poker is hurting our kids to promoting the big btc on seals. I think Micon started talking to her just bashing the article at first but then realized she was a resource for him. Prob said that if she wants to cover the world of bitcoin poker she will get x number of chips on the site to try it out, kinda an under the table deal like that. Just looks like too much of a change of heart in a weeks time for it to not be about $, and she was already suspected of taking $ from adelson for the first article.
    I dont necessarily have an issue with you dude, but why do you constantly post about Micon here? Doesnt he have his own forum? Didnt these things split off for a reason? If we want to know about him cant we follow him? And you provide no other content other than this Micon crap. If you were a regular poster that occasionally sprinkled this garbage in, no one would care. But this is the bulk of what you do here.

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      1marley1: wrong, this is very relevant. especially here...
    It's hilarious that we as a society think everyone can be a dr, a lawyer, an engineer. Some people are just fucking stupid. Why can't we just accept that?

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    I'd assume because almost no one goes to Micon's site these days (that filthy malware problem didn't help) and he's so inconsistent and unreliable with his updates.

    Whatever happened his chairman mong youtube videos?
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    I think Micon maybe buying an article in Newsweek & fighting w/poker people including PPA Rich Muny is worth talking about here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cokehead View Post
    I think Micon maybe buying an article in Newsweek & fighting w/poker people including PPA Rich Muny is worth talking about here.
    Im not sure you are aware of this, but there is a scams/scandals/shadiness forum on here.......................

     
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      1marley1: no scam, no scandal, just stupidity...
    It's hilarious that we as a society think everyone can be a dr, a lawyer, an engineer. Some people are just fucking stupid. Why can't we just accept that?

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    I think when the govt catches micon that will be worth posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post
    I think when the govt catches micon that will be worth posting.
    Good job he keeps his ownership low profile

     
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      bukowski72: Yeah, but he is talking way too much shit to people. I think someone soon will make a nice contact with the DOJ full of Micon info.
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    I stay to myself and keep out of trouble and/or potentially problematic scenarios

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cokehead View Post
    What do you guys think, did Micon pay that bitch to write that seals article?

    I think yes, otherwise why does she go from saying online poker is hurting our kids to promoting the big btc on seals. I think Micon started talking to her just bashing the article at first but then realized she was a resource for him. Prob said that if she wants to cover the world of bitcoin poker she will get x number of chips on the site to try it out, kinda an under the table deal like that. Just looks like too much of a change of heart in a weeks time for it to not be about $, and she was already suspected of taking $ from adelson for the first article.







    What a retard..

     
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    horrible thread title...i was actually expecting to see proof or an admission by micon that he bought an article

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    Im gonna take a flyer and say this Newsweek article may have had something to do with the recent coinbase issue where they suddenly banhammered accts who didnt have enough sense to keep their coins in a seperate wallet for playing SWC.. Micon is poking the beast in DC with a stick.. Anybody dare want to set a line on how long itll take before the FBI is using the ram on his front door and theres suddenly a DOJ page up on SWC and ironically donkdown.com as well.. Im to the point thinking Micon is the poster child for what happens when you vap too much (although my guess is its a combo of vapping THC and maybe too much 25yr old Mac Scotch)

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    Yup doj just building up their case for big old micon, his time is near... Lol

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    lol Micon

    what a fucking idiot

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ftpjesus View Post
    Im gonna take a flyer and say this Newsweek article may have had something to do with the recent coinbase issue where they suddenly banhammered accts who didnt have enough sense to keep their coins in a seperate wallet for playing SWC.. Micon is poking the beast in DC with a stick.. Anybody dare want to set a line on how long itll take before the FBI is using the ram on his front door and theres suddenly a DOJ page up on SWC and ironically donkdown.com as well.. Im to the point thinking Micon is the poster child for what happens when you vap too much (although my guess is its a combo of vapping THC and maybe too much 25yr old Mac Scotch)

    How does one pay taxes on bitcoins? Or is it just a known thing that no one does? I hope for his sake he figured that out or could end up in an even larger cluster fuck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmoney View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ftpjesus View Post
    Im gonna take a flyer and say this Newsweek article may have had something to do with the recent coinbase issue where they suddenly banhammered accts who didnt have enough sense to keep their coins in a seperate wallet for playing SWC.. Micon is poking the beast in DC with a stick.. Anybody dare want to set a line on how long itll take before the FBI is using the ram on his front door and theres suddenly a DOJ page up on SWC and ironically donkdown.com as well.. Im to the point thinking Micon is the poster child for what happens when you vap too much (although my guess is its a combo of vapping THC and maybe too much 25yr old Mac Scotch)

    How does one pay taxes on bitcoins? Or is it just a known thing that no one does? I hope for his sake he figured that out or could end up in an even larger cluster fuck.
    Imagine earning a $1400 BTC, having to pay taxes on it when earned then cashing it out now and it's only worth $500...is that a short term loss that you can write off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texter View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cmoney View Post


    How does one pay taxes on bitcoins? Or is it just a known thing that no one does? I hope for his sake he figured that out or could end up in an even larger cluster fuck.
    Imagine earning a $1400 BTC, having to pay taxes on it when earned then cashing it out now and it's only worth $500...is that a short term loss that you can write off?

    I am guessing it would be like gold and silver and you pay taxes on your gains once you sell it. It is an odd one though because the anonymous nature of bitcoins would make it extremely tempting not to pay taxes and hard to get caught. That is, of course, unless you are US citizen running a gambling site using bitcoins as the currency. The DOJ will then bend you over for running an illegal gambling site and then the IRS will add in the tax evasion charge. This is all assuming taxes are not being paid on them which I hope for his sake he is doing.

    It all seems pretty simple to me. If bitcoins were a legal way to do gambling transactions in the USA, then Poker Stars would still be operating in the US market. It is no different then Poker Stars allowing a customer to buy "Poker Star Coins" for USD, letting the customer play with these coins on the site, and then cashing them out for USD.

    It is one thing to take the risk because of the money involved in a bitcoin gambling site. Where i think Micon is fucking up the most is he is so open about his relationship with it. Look at Isai Schienberg. He tried for as long as possible to be the ghost in the machine and this probably one of the main reasons Poker Stars came through all this relatively unscathed. Oh yeah, and he wasnt a US citizen.

    If I were him, I would immediately "sell" my share in the company to some euro, release a statement saying so and take my pictures off the site. Wait and see what happens and pray they dont want to make an example of you or somehow lose interest because you sold your stake,.

    I hope Micon gets away with it and makes a shitload. The laws are fucking beyond dumb , but it is definitely not a risk I would ever take even if there was a 1 percent chance of getting fucked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmoney View Post


    It all seems pretty simple to me. If bitcoins were a legal way to do gambling transactions in the USA, then Poker Stars would still be operating in the US market. It is no different then Poker Stars allowing a customer to buy "Poker Star Coins" for USD, letting the customer play with these coins on the site, and then cashing them out for USD.
    Slight difference is that Seals does not cash out to USD, it's in a bitcoin, out a bitcoin and then it gets turned into cash somewhere other than Seals. There maybe something to them having a .EU domain as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cmoney View Post


    It all seems pretty simple to me. If bitcoins were a legal way to do gambling transactions in the USA, then Poker Stars would still be operating in the US market. It is no different then Poker Stars allowing a customer to buy "Poker Star Coins" for USD, letting the customer play with these coins on the site, and then cashing them out for USD.
    Slight difference is that Seals does not cash out to USD, it's in a bitcoin, out a bitcoin and then it gets turned into cash somewhere other than Seals. There maybe something to them having a .EU domain as well.
    True slightly different, but think about Paypal. You transferred USD to Paypal, had an "electronic balance" that you could transfer to Stars. Play, cash back out to E.balance at Paypal, then have them ship USD.

    My guess is Micon is setup as an affiliate who is being paid to promote the site + gets commission on referrals. Which may make it slightly more legal than if he was the owner/operator of Seals.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cmoney View Post


    It all seems pretty simple to me. If bitcoins were a legal way to do gambling transactions in the USA, then Poker Stars would still be operating in the US market. It is no different then Poker Stars allowing a customer to buy "Poker Star Coins" for USD, letting the customer play with these coins on the site, and then cashing them out for USD.
    Slight difference is that Seals does not cash out to USD, it's in a bitcoin, out a bitcoin and then it gets turned into cash somewhere other than Seals. There maybe something to them having a .EU domain as well.
    ^^^^^^^^

    There are no btc laws on the books, coupled with the fact that btc functions way differently than the dollar and would be almost impossible to confiscate/stop.

    I'm shocked other poker sites have yet to integrate btc which absolutely shits on "echecks" or using your cc to buy a "couch" in Slovenia or waiting 6 weeks for international check to "clear" from some shady ass site like bovada..

    Anyone that thinks the DOJ gives a flying fuck about 400 mostly lowish limit players playing poker for btc just straight up doesn't get it. Unless Preet Bharara has you marked for a massive money grab, no one cares. SWC is not in any danger of anything and neither is Micon. Hence his willingness to market and promote the site, which is fucking awesome btw..

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    Quote Originally Posted by zealanddonk View Post
    I'd assume because almost no one goes to Micon's site these days (that filthy malware problem didn't help) and he's so inconsistent and unreliable with his updates.

    Whatever happened his chairman mong youtube videos?
    He talks about this article on the DonkDown.com podcast tonight: Multiple Newsweek Article Discussion + Bonus YTCracker, DPB, SpiteCheck & MrCuzamano

    Disclaimer: I haven't heard it yet.

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