Quite an interesting dialogue reported on highstakesdb.
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http://www.highstakesdb.com/5034-noa...ect-debts.aspx
Quite an interesting dialogue reported on highstakesdb.
Discuss
http://www.highstakesdb.com/5034-noa...ect-debts.aspx
Online pros are generally big pussies.cates is owed a lot of money, viffer owes him a fortune through cross booking dwan in their challenge. In fact told by cates that he has to pay up, viffers response was " go fuck yourself"
Maybe some heavies offered their services to cates, maybe they bought his debts
Giggling at thought of dwan being hung from his feet outside his balcony
Last edited by fluffer; 08-20-2014 at 07:06 AM.
The first time I met Jungleman, I was accompanying Zac to a meeting with him at Aria. I was told to wait outside the poker room while they talked.
Later, Zac told me that someone owed Jungle 7-figures, and he was negotiating a commission to collect the debt for him. I didn't ask how he intended to collect that debt, but I imagine the plan wasn't to very politely ask for it. Kinda sounded like a bunch of bullshit at the time, but now...
I was once offered a job collecting debts for a pretty well known Bay Area casino, its not exactly a gig you hire hitmen for, considering dead people dont pay debts. I expect the 'hitmen' being referenced here are basically in similar positions. Eg, not hitmen, just freelance debt collectors.
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Hiring someone to collect a debt for you is not a "hit man"
I wouldn't be surprised if he hired someone to collect debts for him if they were severely delinquent. It also fits into his personality to make loans he really shouldn't, and be mad when they are not paid back.
The guy has a temper, which is amazing for someone who is so successful at high stakes poker. A guy who played in Bobby's Room with him over the summer stated that he got himself banned from the game for the summer by smashing a wine bottle on the table.
But what does DOGISHEAD have to think about all of this?
maybe Matt put him in touch with the BanditosOriginally Posted by SrslySirius
Jungleman threatened to punch me in the face on 2+2 when I was questioning his involvement in the Dogishead/Girah fiasco.
nice. did he do it in a post, a pm, in person?
In a post. He didn't seem serious about it, though. Like, he was mad, but he wasn't actually planning to punch me. I just laughed it off.nice. did he do it in a post, a pm, in person?
I'm giggling at the thought of 2 highly functional " on the spectrum" weirdos having a smackdownIn a post. He didn't seem serious about it, though. Like, he was mad, but he wasn't actually planning to punch me. I just laughed it off.
Oh druff, nothing personal buddy, ok
Here is Jungle's response:
A bit frustrating to hear a bunch of nonsense rumors thrown out about me, but people gonna people. Obv didnt hire any hit men, get real. I'm surprised no one focused on the other tokens in that chat thread
not related in any way to any one's scams, hackings this should be clear with proper reading comprehension of any post. being victim of either also doesnt mean i was involved. Noah is super out of line with what he says, unfortunately there is some chance that the information I had was bad about him also as I learned recently.
this is an incorrect interpretation of the facts also! but it is much closer to true. broke a bottle on the *floor*, in *bobby's* room, and *temp* barred from that. However, I was allowed to play a tournament in aria shortly after. Stupidest thing ive done in a while but wont be doing that again let me assure you
He does not address the "hitman" comment.
It does seem that Noah Boeken, who leveled the accusation (and whose first language isn't English), used the term "hitman" incorrectly. However, it does appear that someone Noah knows was intimidated by a heavy/tough guy regarding a debt owed to Jungleman, and at the very least, Jungleman verified that it happened (though claims he had nothing to do with it).
Relevant part of the Pokerstars chat below. Exclusive is Noah Boeken, and w00ki3z is Jungleman.
Exclusive said, "ya"
Exclusive said, "just dont sent me a hitman for christmas"
w00ki3z. said, "youre making it tempting"
Exclusive said, "guy wasnt even alone"
Exclusive said, "his whole family there"
Exclusive said, "ur sick"
w00ki3z. said, "oh that?"
w00ki3z. said, "i dont know anything about that guy"
Exclusive said, "ya u know notin"
w00ki3z. said, "fuck you"
w00ki3z. said, "you think im shady and dangerous"
w00ki3z. said, "and you cheat me"
w00ki3z. said, "smart"
Noah goes way back to the very early days of Pokerstars. In my personal interactions with him, he seemed like a nice guy and isn't frequently embroiled in drama.
Noah would not of confused the term "hitman" with anything other than a hired killer. Not a chance
My visits to the Netherlands have yet to encounter anyone who doesn't speak almost perfect English. And with Noah being on the circuit and mostly using English to communicate for the last 10+ years.....He will 100% know the difference between hitman & debt collector.
In fact, if he didn't know the difference before leaving school. He soon would've picked it up after the first few English speaking gangster movies he seen.
Also don't believe for a second that Jungle hired a hitman. Just think Noah 'purposefully' exaggerated the term used for a debt collector.
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