LOL Politics: Will Rand Paul Be the Next POTUSOA?

[4Dragons]

at the end of the day...

does it even matter who gets elected president ?

the country is royally fucked, and swimming in trillons of dollars in debt

not to mention the fact that we have a completely inept, and ineffective Congress that stifles the president from doing the job he was elected to do

the office of president is nothing more than a token figurehead who is bought and paid for by Wall Street

Really? This has been the most ineffective President in modern times, including GWBII. This guy is flat out awful, and even Democrats know it.

The to do list:

Take over the health care system
Make Congress inept of power
Take away all weapons from the citizenry
Create a secondary army that answers only to him
Federalize as much of the workforce as possible to make people dependent on him for their paychecks
Demonize anyone that disagrees with any of his policies


Shit, sorry, I thought we were talking about Hitler. Glad this one is ineffective though.

[Damone]

Since Sonny already cremated this thread, so fuck it. See you around LLL on another thread,

[son of lockman]

Sonny, let's cool down here with the Youtube posts. This is an interesting thread, and I don't want it to turn into garbage.

You know what? You're full of bullsh#t on that one and here's why shollow thinker.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO TURN ON THE MUSIC DO THEY?

Now answer that one instead of just trying tio be a Hitler dictator and bowing down to these other shallow idiots.

[tyde]

Jesus Christ

no offense Sonny.....but you are really ruining the forum today

NAP IT OUT

[son of lockman]

[QUOTE=Dan Druff;287156]

Basically, if Republicans want to win, they need to take the 1994 message, clean it up a bit to match with the times, and then go after the Democrats where they've stumbled over the past several years. And there's lots of stumbles to choose from, as Obama is a great speaker and generally means well, but has been far too detached and hands-off with his leadership, resulting in several embarrassing blunders.

The Democrats haven't stumbled and the stock market has doubled since Obama has taken over, employment is up, and at the end of the year we'll be out of 2 wars whch were the longest in American history.

The Republicans can't win as Beaners won't vote for them and either will Negros.

You might as well accept the fact that for as long as your live Democrats will be in power.

Flat #ss out Todd.

Sonny

[son of lockman]

Jesus Christ

no offense Sonny.....but you are really ruining the forum today

NAP IT OUT

Don't turn on the music then. Aren't you smart enough to do that? Or should I tell you again?

[son of lockman]

And think about this. This thread wouldn't be three pages now if people weren't b#tching about me and my music. Bunch of simple f#cks here.

[son of lockman]

I think Mitt Romney will be the GOP nominee in 2016, unfortunately

Huh?

The last time someone ran for president 2 times in a row was U.S. presidential candidate (1952, 1956) Adlai Stevenson.

And he lost both times.

Bring him on is all I can say. The Democrats are going to hold on to power until 2052 atleast.

You idiots don't get it. The Republicans have no voter base. They need minority votes and can't get them. Negros and Beaners will never vote Republican.

Not that they vote but that is the only hope for Republicans.

[ToasterOven]

Really? This has been the most ineffective President in modern times, including GWBII. This guy is flat out awful, and even Democrats know it.

The to do list:

Take over the health care system
Make Congress inept of power
Take away all weapons from the citizenry
Create a secondary army that answers only to him
Federalize as much of the workforce as possible to make people dependent on him for their paychecks
Demonize anyone that disagrees with any of his policies


Shit, sorry, I thought we were talking about Hitler. Glad this one is ineffective though.

You know I love you, but this is nonsense.

Obamacare mandates that people buy insurance from companies, not the government.
Congress is inept largely due to the removal of earmarks, which has nothing to do with Obama.
Take all weapons away? C'mon. Examples?
Secondary army? WTF? Red Sox Nation?
There's been a steep decline in government workforce under Obama. Look at the numbers.

I'm not interested in taking the defend Obama position, but c'mon, let's deal in the reality and not AM Radio worst case scenario stuff.


There's nothing terrible about Obamacare. It's a clusterfuck, but it can be saved and likely will be post Obama. Everyone should have health care. In Michigan, you need care insurance to register your car, and no one calls that tyranny. Health care spending has slowed post obamacare, and once it starts getting tweaked it will probably turn out ok. The situation was untenable in 2008, and I'm glad they did something, even if it isn't perfect.

[4Dragons]

The to do list:

Take over the health care system
Make Congress inept of power
Take away all weapons from the citizenry
Create a secondary army that answers only to him
Federalize as much of the workforce as possible to make people dependent on him for their paychecks
Demonize anyone that disagrees with any of his policies


Shit, sorry, I thought we were talking about Hitler. Glad this one is ineffective though.

You know I love you, but this is nonsense.

Obamacare mandates that people buy insurance from companies, not the government.
Congress is inept largely due to the removal of earmarks, which has nothing to do with Obama.
This is about Executive Orders, and Obama is no worse than Bush. I see them as the same guy.

Take all weapons away? C'mon. Examples?
Every, and I mean every idiot that shoots a gun off, the administration goes on a fever pitch to get gun control laws. Fast and Furious is still in process, but was considered an OP to create chaos on the border so they could have an excuse to create more gun laws.


Secondary army? WTF? Red Sox Nation? LOL


There's been a steep decline in government workforce under Obama. Look at the numbers.
Obama has been very good at getting rid of the entire workforce.


I'm not interested in taking the defend Obama position, but c'mon, let's deal in the reality and not AM Radio worst case scenario stuff.
Like I said, he's been ineffective. What I posted was a wishlist.

There's nothing terrible about Obamacare. It's a clusterfuck, but it can be saved and likely will be post Obama. Everyone should have health care.
Then they should change the Constitution.

In Michigan, you need care insurance to register your car, and no one calls that tyranny. Health care spending has slowed post obamacare, and once it starts getting tweaked it will probably turn out ok. The situation was untenable in 2008, and I'm glad they did something, even if it isn't perfect.
You are not mandated or penalized to buy a car.

[jsearles22]

The to do list:

Take over the health care system
Make Congress inept of power
Take away all weapons from the citizenry
Create a secondary army that answers only to him
Federalize as much of the workforce as possible to make people dependent on him for their paychecks
Demonize anyone that disagrees with any of his policies


Shit, sorry, I thought we were talking about Hitler. Glad this one is ineffective though.

You know I love you, but this is nonsense.

Obamacare mandates that people buy insurance from companies, not the government.
Congress is inept largely due to the removal of earmarks, which has nothing to do with Obama.
Take all weapons away? C'mon. Examples?
Secondary army? WTF? Red Sox Nation?
There's been a steep decline in government workforce under Obama. Look at the numbers.

I'm not interested in taking the defend Obama position, but c'mon, let's deal in the reality and not AM Radio worst case scenario stuff.


There's nothing terrible about Obamacare. It's a clusterfuck, but it can be saved and likely will be post Obama. Everyone should have health care. In Michigan, you need care insurance to register your car, and no one calls that tyranny. Health care spending has slowed post obamacare, and once it starts getting tweaked it will probably turn out ok. The situation was untenable in 2008, and I'm glad they did something, even if it isn't perfect.

I was getting ready to reply, then I saw this reply, which pretty much said everything I was going to say.

[ToasterOven]

1. Look up number of executive orders. Obama has less than most. This is a real fact. The numbers are readily available.

2. What gun control laws? What has passed, what has the admin pushed? They put their big toe in after Newtown, CT, but what came of it? What gun control laws are being debated in congress? None.

3. Getting rid of the workforce? There's been something like 53 straight months of private sector job growth. Unemployment is something like 6.2%. I happen to believe that the president is not responsible for this and the economy is cyclical, but the numbers are the numbers.

[Avon Barksdale]

1. Look up number of executive orders. Obama has less than most. This is a real fact. The numbers are readily available.

2. What gun control laws? What has passed, what has the admin pushed? They put their big toe in after Newtown, CT, but what came of it? What gun control laws are being debated in congress? None.

3. Getting rid of the workforce? There's been something like 53 straight months of private sector job growth. Unemployment is something like 6.2%. I happen to believe that the president is not responsible for this and the economy is cyclical, but the numbers are the numbers.

SFTHIS, especially #3.

[4Dragons]

1. Look up number of executive orders. Obama has less than most. This is a real fact. The numbers are readily available.
Obama has been convicted by the Supreme Court 13 times of violating the Constitution.

2. What gun control laws? What has passed, what has the admin pushed? They put their big toe in after Newtown, CT, but what came of it? What gun control laws are being debated in congress? None.
Again, he has failed. Thank God.

3. Getting rid of the workforce? There's been something like 53 straight months of private sector job growth. Unemployment is something like 6.2%. I happen to believe that the president is not responsible for this and the economy is cyclical, but the numbers are the numbers.

Numbers are not the numbers when the way you count has been changed. http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterfer...nt-rate-is-11/

[Damone]

1. Look up number of executive orders. Obama has less than most. This is a real fact. The numbers are readily available.

2. What gun control laws? What has passed, what has the admin pushed? They put their big toe in after Newtown, CT, but what came of it? What gun control laws are being debated in congress? None.

3. Getting rid of the workforce? There's been something like 53 straight months of private sector job growth. Unemployment is something like 6.2%. I happen to believe that the president is not responsible for this and the economy is cyclical, but the numbers are the numbers.

That is spot on. The global economy is much larger than some taxation policy in the US. I always laugh when Clinton takes credit for the 1990s economy. It had everything to do with the proliferation of the internet, software, and a billion people buying cell phones at once. Bill Gates deserves more credit than anyone.

As far as Obama, his legacy will be Obamacare. You do notice nobody from the administration is touting it now? That is because millions who signed up are not paying their premiums. It is a fucking financial disaster and will be the contributing factor to the next financial crisis. A 19 year old Hooters waitress, when given the choice will buy a new pair of jeans before paying her healthcare policy which she knows nothing about.

[ToasterOven]

1. Look up number of executive orders. Obama has less than most. This is a real fact. The numbers are readily available.
Obama has been convicted by the Supreme Court 13 times of violating the Constitution.

2. What gun control laws? What has passed, what has the admin pushed? They put their big toe in after Newtown, CT, but what came of it? What gun control laws are being debated in congress? None.
Again, he has failed. Thank God.

3. Getting rid of the workforce? There's been something like 53 straight months of private sector job growth. Unemployment is something like 6.2%. I happen to believe that the president is not responsible for this and the economy is cyclical, but the numbers are the numbers.

Numbers are not the numbers when the way you count has been changed. http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterfer...nt-rate-is-11/

Obama has not gone after guns with any kind of fervor at all. It's all propaganda to sell web subscriptions, survival supplies and munitions. There was some talk of expanded back ground checks and keeping guns away from the mentally ill, but it was all just talk. You can't possibly think that was a legit attempt to take away guns. C'mon.

The main reason the work force is shrinking is due to baby boomers turning 65. In 15 years, the work force will increase. It was the baby boom because a shit ton of people were born after WWII.

Obama is just another link in the chain, not much different than Bush II. The Bush medicare part d plan is way more socialist than Obamacare, but that doesn't fit the narrative.

[ToasterOven]

1. Look up number of executive orders. Obama has less than most. This is a real fact. The numbers are readily available.

2. What gun control laws? What has passed, what has the admin pushed? They put their big toe in after Newtown, CT, but what came of it? What gun control laws are being debated in congress? None.

3. Getting rid of the workforce? There's been something like 53 straight months of private sector job growth. Unemployment is something like 6.2%. I happen to believe that the president is not responsible for this and the economy is cyclical, but the numbers are the numbers.

That is spot on. The global economy is much larger than some taxation policy in the US. I always laugh when Clinton takes credit for the 1990s economy. It had everything to do with the proliferation of the internet, software, and a billion people buying cell phones at once. Bill Gates deserves more credit than anyone.

As far as Obama, his legacy will be Obamacare. You do notice nobody from the administration is touting it now? That is because millions who signed up are not paying their premiums. It is a fucking financial disaster and will be the contributing factor to the next financial crisis. A 19 year old Hooters waitress, when given the choice will buy a new pair of jeans before paying her healthcare policy which she knows nothing about.

Type in "are people paying obamacare premiums". Pretty easy to fact check you, plumbdumb.

http://money.cnn.com/2014/05/07/news...care-premiums/

[Walter Sobchak]

1. Look up number of executive orders. Obama has less than most. This is a real fact. The numbers are readily available.

2. What gun control laws? What has passed, what has the admin pushed? They put their big toe in after Newtown, CT, but what came of it? What gun control laws are being debated in congress? None.

3. Getting rid of the workforce? There's been something like 53 straight months of private sector job growth. Unemployment is something like 6.2%. I happen to believe that the president is not responsible for this and the economy is cyclical, but the numbers are the numbers.

That is spot on. The global economy is much larger than some taxation policy in the US. I always laugh when Clinton takes credit for the 1990s economy. It had everything to do with the proliferation of the internet, software, and a billion people buying cell phones at once. Bill Gates deserves more credit than anyone.

As far as Obama, his legacy will be Obamacare. You do notice nobody from the administration is touting it now? That is because millions who signed up are not paying their premiums. It is a fucking financial disaster and will be the contributing factor to the next financial crisis. A 19 year old Hooters waitress, when given the choice will buy a new pair of jeans before paying her healthcare policy which she knows nothing about.

Maybe, but she's already more successful than you.

[4Dragons]

I have to admit it's nice to have an open discussion with all the brothers on the site. But overall, how well do you think Obama has done? I'll go out on a limb and say that his whiteness shown through way more than he actually did anything for those who are down for the struggle.

[Jayjami]

I have to admit it's nice to have an open discussion with all the brothers on the site. But overall, how well do you think Obama has done? I'll go out on a limb and say that his whiteness shown through way more than he actually did anything for those who are down for the struggle.

Ranking the presidents in my lifetime:

Clinton (by far the best)
Bush I (underrated)
Reagan (good outweighed the bad)
Nixon (a lot of good, but shitloads of bad)
Ford (did the best he could)
Johnson (a master politician, but a poor statesman)
Obama (doesn't understand realpolitik)
Bush II (total disaster)
Carter (great human being, horrible president)