What would your roll have to be?

[ShadyJ]

Lets assume you're a winning online mtt player pre black friday. Lets also assume you dont have a bomb ass job you cant leave.

What would be your minimum bankroll you would need to have to go to Mexico or Canada for a few months to grind mtts?

I know theres alot of variables but lets just assume you want to play midstakes to make some good money. Not just grind low stakes and skate by on life. You really want to run it up.

Im thinking at least 10k. That would give you a 100 buyins at $100 mtts.

Thoughts?

Sonatine you have a max of 5 Tyde jokes itt so use wisely.

[SrslySirius]

Sonatine you have a max of 5 Tyde jokes itt so use wisely.

Sonatine and Tyde are besties now. Try to keep up.

[ShadyJ]

Sonatine you have a max of 5 Tyde jokes itt so use wisely.

Sonatine and Tyde are besties now. Try to keep up.

Did they bond over their love of 23o?

[jsearles22]

Lets assume you're a winning online mtt player pre black friday. Lets also assume you dont have a bomb ass job you cant leave.

What would be your minimum bankroll you would need to have to go to Mexico or Canada for a few months to grind mtts?

I know theres alot of variables but lets just assume you want to play midstakes to make some good money. Not just grind low stakes and skate by on life. You really want to run it up.

Im thinking at least 10k. That would give you a 100 buyins at $100 mtts.

Thoughts?

Sonatine you have a max of 5 Tyde jokes itt so use wisely.

Just for a few months? What is your expected or hopeful return? Are you trying to just break even and pay expenses? Two months is not much time to off set variance. If your goal is to simply not bust it all in two months, $10K would do you fine.

[ShadyJ]

Lets assume you're a winning online mtt player pre black friday. Lets also assume you dont have a bomb ass job you cant leave.

What would be your minimum bankroll you would need to have to go to Mexico or Canada for a few months to grind mtts?

I know theres alot of variables but lets just assume you want to play midstakes to make some good money. Not just grind low stakes and skate by on life. You really want to run it up.

Im thinking at least 10k. That would give you a 100 buyins at $100 mtts.

Thoughts?

Sonatine you have a max of 5 Tyde jokes itt so use wisely.

Just for a few months? What is your expected or hopeful return? Are you trying to just break even and pay expenses? Two months is not much time to off set variance. If your goal is to simply not bust it all in two months, $10K would do you fine.

I guess you missed the part that said make some good money. Again theres to many variables to list them all but the goal is obviously to make money and like I said good money. Your playing mid stakes so you could bink a tourney right away for a big score but you definitely dont want to go broke.

[jsearles22]

Just for a few months? What is your expected or hopeful return? Are you trying to just break even and pay expenses? Two months is not much time to off set variance. If your goal is to simply not bust it all in two months, $10K would do you fine.

I guess you missed the part that said make some good money. Again theres to many variables to list them all but the goal is obviously to make money and like I said good money. Your playing mid stakes so you could bink a tourney right away for a big score but you definitely dont want to go broke.

I think by default when you say "what does your roll need to be" the implication is you are asking how much do you need to make sure you dont go broke. In a few month scenario I think $10K is sufficient for those stakes. If you are talking about moving your life permanently, I would honestly be saying closer to $50K

[ToasterOven]

So, 10k plus whatever you are going to live on. Seems like a lot for a young guy without much responsibility. I guess if you're a serious poker player maybe you'd do that, but if you're a young guy looking for adventure, you could do it for much less.

[ShadyJ]

I guess you missed the part that said make some good money. Again theres to many variables to list them all but the goal is obviously to make money and like I said good money. Your playing mid stakes so you could bink a tourney right away for a big score but you definitely dont want to go broke.

I think by default when you say "what does your roll need to be" the implication is you are asking how much do you need to make sure you dont go broke. In a few month scenario I think $10K is sufficient for those stakes. If you are talking about moving your life permanently, I would honestly be saying closer to $50K

Definitly not permanently but 50k? I mean you can always move down in stakes if need be. If you need 50k with a $100 abi you have more things to worry about then downswings. Were talking a winning player here.

[SrslySirius]

I think JSearles is actually in the vicinity of making a decent point.

A two-month plan is dumb. You give yourself very little chance of succeeding, and in all likelihood you'll have to return home nearly broke and find a way to get back on your feet. You're basically just hoping to luckbox a big score really fast.

I'd want at least 6 months of living expenses set aside to make a go of it, and a working bankroll that is completely segregated. I think 100 buyins is a little light for MTTs, from what I recall of typical BR management rules of thumb. I wouldn't be playing MTTs anyway because it was never my thing, but also because lolvariance. I think you have a better shot at succeeding grinding out cash.

So maybe $2k/month to scrape by in Mexico? And ~8k to get started at 1/2. Maybe another $5k backup if everything goes south and I have to return to the US.

So I guess $25k is my number.

[chinamaniac]

just for poker, or overall roll for living expenses?

I dont know how MTT variance works but I know it can be brutal. I would say that for cash games in LHE I would be more than comfortable with 10k for a starting roll but could probably get away with starting with 2-3k

[sonatine]

2k a month to live

lets say one tourn every 2 days.. thats 15 a month.. thats 1500..

lets assume you cash for $400 a week because poker is fucking hilarious and lol if you dont think thats an entirely realistic scenario...

so the question rapidly becomes, can you final table once in every say, 30 tournaments, eg 2 months of play..

if youre cut out for that sort of thing, if thats how you roll, then yes, 10k can be sustainable.

but when you look at it through The Tine System and consider that you have 2 bishops and 10k gives you 5k per bishop for activation i mean, thats not a chance id take. i prefer to have around 8k per bishop.

[Prodigal son]

[ShadyJ]

just for poker, or overall roll for living expenses?

I dont know how MTT variance works but I know it can be brutal. I would say that for cash games in LHE I would be more than comfortable with 10k for a starting roll but could probably get away with starting with 2-3k

Just your poker roll.

[ShadyJ]

I think JSearles is actually in the vicinity of making a decent point.

A two-month plan is dumb. You give yourself very little chance of succeeding, and in all likelihood you'll have to return home nearly broke and find a way to get back on your feet. You're basically just hoping to luckbox a big score really fast.

I'd want at least 6 months of living expenses set aside to make a go of it, and a working bankroll that is completely segregated. I think 100 buyins is a little light for MTTs, from what I recall of typical BR management rules of thumb. I wouldn't be playing MTTs anyway because it was never my thing, but also because lolvariance. I think you have a better shot at succeeding grinding out cash.

So maybe $2k/month to scrape by in Mexico? And ~8k to get started at 1/2. Maybe another $5k backup if everything goes south and I have to return to the US.

So I guess $25k is my number.

Ive done both and mtts are alot easier or at least were alot easier. Theres alot of really succesful mtt players that arent any good. Cash is a different beast for me mentally its alot harder. I would never grind cash for SNE again that was brutal. Imagine the daily swings when your playing 24 cash tables for 12-14 hours a day. The downswings wreck you mentally.

[ShadyJ]

2k a month to live

lets say one tourn every 2 days.. thats 15 a month.. thats 1500..

lets assume you cash for $400 a week because poker is fucking hilarious and lol if you dont think thats an entirely realistic scenario...

so the question rapidly becomes, can you final table once in every say, 30 tournaments, eg 2 months of play..

if youre cut out for that sort of thing, if thats how you roll, then yes, 10k can be sustainable.

but when you look at it through The Tine System and consider that you have 2 bishops and 10k gives you 5k per bishop for activation i mean, thats not a chance id take. i prefer to have around 8k per bishop.

Id be playing more then 30 tourneys a day. I used to play over 100 but most were 45/90 mans. If I left the country to play its all I would do all day and night.

[backdoorb]

Any experience with cash games? If i had a 10k roll i'd be grinding .50/1 and shot taking 1/2 to build your roll.

A couple months is not enough time to outlast variance of tournaments, not for cash either but i think it'd be more optimal

[BetCheckBet]

If you are a professional poker player and you don't have at least 50k in liquidity I'd have some serious questions about how you are living your life.

Now if you are just going on a trip for a few months and not a serious player I don't think it really matters as long as you have living expenses covered.

[ShadyJ]

If you are a professional poker player and you don't have at least 50k in liquidity I'd have some serious questions about how you are living your life.

Now if you are just going on a trip for a few months and not a serious player I don't think it really matters as long as you have living expenses covered.

The question is what would your roll have to be. It's not about how much actual money you have. It also states leaving the country to play meaning you live in the US, so its hard to call yourself a poker pro when its been over 3 years since youve been able to play. I've never really understand what a poker pro is anyways. Is Druff a poker pro because he has the money and no real job but only plays wsop?

Also every (poker pro) doesnt live in their moms basement so even if they dont have 50k liquid doesnt mean they arent living right. It could be a number of things and the top of the list is not being able to play online anymore.

[ToasterOven]

2k a month to live

lets say one tourn every 2 days.. thats 15 a month.. thats 1500..

lets assume you cash for $400 a week because poker is fucking hilarious and lol if you dont think thats an entirely realistic scenario...

so the question rapidly becomes, can you final table once in every say, 30 tournaments, eg 2 months of play..

if youre cut out for that sort of thing, if thats how you roll, then yes, 10k can be sustainable.

but when you look at it through The Tine System and consider that you have 2 bishops and 10k gives you 5k per bishop for activation i mean, thats not a chance id take. i prefer to have around 8k per bishop.

Id be playing more then 30 tourneys a day. I used to play over 100 but most were 45/90 mans. If I left the country to play its all I would do all day and night.

That sounds awful. Online poker for every waking moment.

[JACKDANIELS]

Yeah if you are going to be living abroad you may as well enjoy the experience