Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 21 to 40 of 52

Thread: Amanda Musumeci calls out Kim Shannon as a scammer

  1. #21
    Cubic Zirconia
    Reputation
    10
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    Henderson NV
    Posts
    18
    Load Metric
    67578231
    file a case in small claims, get a judgement against her, let it get on her record, and there's a chance, eventually, if she needs a car or home loan, that she will need to satisfy this judgement to get something she wants later. Or, kiss it goodbye and move on. Spending hours blogging about it is a waste of time.

  2. #22
    Diamond chinamaniac's Avatar
    Reputation
    1012
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    On a Plane
    Posts
    7,791
    Blog Entries
    2
    Load Metric
    67578231
    from 2+2

    Looks like you're right. Apparently she's 44 years old with arrests over the years for drug possession, driving with an expired license, larceny(theft), disorderly conduct, forgery/counterfeiting, possession with intent to distribute, and driving with a suspended license. She has a few old judgments against her for small amounts, max was $6500 and the creditor was St. Josephs Health Services (a healthcare provider in Rhode Island).

    Last known address was here (walking distance to Atlantic City casinos) http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/20...37826011_zpid/ but it's from 2012 so i'm guessing she's been moving around a lot since then.

    Previous Addresses
    Address Last Seen
    [redacted]

    I think it's about 50% Amanda's fault for letting it drag on so long. Should've set a 1 month limit and been paid monthly or booted her out. Then again, it's only $5k so who really cares. You are only a landlord if you collect rent. If you don't collect rent, you're just giving someone a free place to live.

  3. #23
    Diamond PLOL's Avatar
    Reputation
    1069
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    5,095
    Load Metric
    67578231
    Woah, I always thought she was way younger than 44. She certainly acts way younger/more immature, and the pictures I've seen make her look a lot younger. Has she responded to any of this publicly? She's certainly tweeting like nothing is happening.

    And has her boy-toy Travis, aka OnAFoldDraw, responded to any of this? It's my understanding that they're now "back together" or something. Lately his twitter mostly consists of retweeting everything PartyPokerUS tweets (which is mostly nonsense), which makes me think he's employed in some way by PartyPoker
    TRUMP 2024!

    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
    Just non-stop unrelenting LGBT propaganda being shoved down our throats.

  4. #24
    Diamond BCR's Avatar
    Reputation
    2028
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    6,918
    Load Metric
    67578231
    That top address in NJ is likely the home that AM rents. I'd say to edit it out, but I think she said it was simply a rental.

    Strange, when I click the zillow link it takes me to a neighborhood I'm familiar with in Pittsburgh? Is everyone else getting something different?

    I would have pegged that chicks age dead on. She very much appears like many girls in my age group trying way too hard and acting the fool.

  5. #25
    Owner Dan Druff's Avatar
    Reputation
    10142
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    54,758
    Blog Entries
    2
    Load Metric
    67578231
    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    That top address in NJ is likely the home that AM rents. I'd say to edit it out, but I think she said it was simply a rental.

    Strange, when I click the zillow link it takes me to a neighborhood I'm familiar with in Pittsburgh? Is everyone else getting something different?

    I would have pegged that chicks age dead on. She very much appears like many girls in my age group trying way too hard and acting the fool.
    Agree.

    Her main Twitter pic is one where she's hiding half her face -- a common tactic used by women around 40 trying to look youthful.

    I also pegged her as around my age.

    I saw her on Twitter acting as if she was a big deal in poker and just thought I was out of the loop in not knowing her. Nope. Just another career scammer using poker as their latest source for harvesting victims.

    Surprised she had a baby at age 43 though. Unless its Travis' kid with another woman or something. Most women her age can't have a successful pregnancy with their own egg.

    Pretty much 100% she ditched out on her other kid though. Sounds like an awful person.

  6. #26
    Diamond shortbuspoker's Avatar
    Reputation
    863
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    5,047
    Load Metric
    67578231
    Quote Originally Posted by TheREALmander View Post
    I am Amanda Musumeci, the person who this happened to. There are photos of emails and texts in the actual blog that are not showing up here. The debt was accrued while she was unemployed and was mostly debt accrued for bills we shared, not cash loans. There was one cash loan of $500 in the beginning and that was it.

    BLOG HERE: http://therealmanders.blogspot.com/2...re-of-kim.html
    I'm gonna need a picture of you and Johnny Sepulveda to prove identity. He's the chubby guy that used to chase you around Foxwoods.

    Edit:
    after reading later post it may have been the Borgata
    Last edited by shortbuspoker; 08-06-2014 at 06:08 PM.

  7. #27
    Diamond PLOL's Avatar
    Reputation
    1069
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    5,095
    Load Metric
    67578231
    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    That top address in NJ is likely the home that AM rents. I'd say to edit it out, but I think she said it was simply a rental.

    Strange, when I click the zillow link it takes me to a neighborhood I'm familiar with in Pittsburgh? Is everyone else getting something different?
    It's a bad link that just redirects to the zillow home page. Look at the address bar.
    TRUMP 2024!

    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
    Just non-stop unrelenting LGBT propaganda being shoved down our throats.

  8. #28
    Owner Dan Druff's Avatar
    Reputation
    10142
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    54,758
    Blog Entries
    2
    Load Metric
    67578231
    Anyway, while Amanda let this drag a bit long, I don't really blame her for how she handled the situation. When someone owes you money like this, it's often hard to pull the trigger and call them out, as you end up fearing that they will simply run off (especially if they owe many others, which will then also come out) and you will never get paid.

    However, it's actually better to call them out, both to prevent others from becoming victims AND to shame them into paying up. The general rule of thumb is "scammers love secrets", meaning that they operate with the intention of everyone keeping silent and their rep intact. The best way to get a scammer/bad debtor to pay you is to THREATEN to call them out, giving them a chance to save their rep but also making them aware that they can't keep jerking you around. The worst thing you can do is "give them time" because you will rarely get paid.

    The second-best thing you can do (for yourself, that is) is to call them out. At least they will typically be shamed into paying you (if they can scratch up the money), and even if you don't get paid, you will make it much tougher for them to rip off others.

    Getting back to the Amanda/Kim situation, a lawsuit will be useless. You will never be able to collect from her, unless she has a steady paycheck that you can garnish. And that's if she's in the same state as you. Suing someone out of state is very difficult and even harder to collect once you win. Even though Kim Shannon might work for Party Poker at the moment, they probably just issue her random checks every so often, and would be difficult (or impossible) to get them to cooperate with any garnishment. In fact, they would probably sooner terminate her than deal with paying out garnishments. Garnishments are really more suitable for either bank accounts or regular 9-5 jobs, where the person is paid regularly and is an otherwise stable employee. For example, if a guy who works for the phone company stiffs you and you get a judgment against them, that's a perfect spot to garnish his wages. Working as a media person for Party Poker is not.

    Good luck to you, Amanda, but I doubt you will ever see your $5500. I am guessing Kim will now go into hiding and just sponge off her boyfriend for the foreseeable future. I do believe every bit of your story, by the way.

  9. #29
    Gold Shizzmoney's Avatar
    Reputation
    457
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    2,451
    Blog Entries
    1
    Load Metric
    67578231

  10. #30
    Cubic Zirconia
    Reputation
    15
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Posts
    4
    Load Metric
    67578231
    Quote Originally Posted by shortbuspoker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TheREALmander View Post
    I am Amanda Musumeci, the person who this happened to. There are photos of emails and texts in the actual blog that are not showing up here. The debt was accrued while she was unemployed and was mostly debt accrued for bills we shared, not cash loans. There was one cash loan of $500 in the beginning and that was it.

    BLOG HERE: http://therealmanders.blogspot.com/2...re-of-kim.html
    I'm gonna need a picture of you and Johnny Sepulveda to prove identity. He's the chubby guy that used to chase you around Foxwoods.

    Lol dudes... Have prob done 100s of interviews/radio shows etc over my career... No clue who this sepulveda person is at all. If we met, i dont remember because I meet a lot of people. I smile. I say hi. Thats that.

    And i have literally never been to foxwoods or any CT casino for that matter.

     
    Comments
      
      shortbuspoker: might have been the Borgata. my bad

  11. #31
    Cubic Zirconia
    Reputation
    10
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    8
    Load Metric
    67578231
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    That top address in NJ is likely the home that AM rents. I'd say to edit it out, but I think she said it was simply a rental.

    Strange, when I click the zillow link it takes me to a neighborhood I'm familiar with in Pittsburgh? Is everyone else getting something different?

    I would have pegged that chicks age dead on. She very much appears like many girls in my age group trying way too hard and acting the fool.
    Agree.

    Her main Twitter pic is one where she's hiding half her face -- a common tactic used by women around 40 trying to look youthful.

    I also pegged her as around my age.

    I saw her on Twitter acting as if she was a big deal in poker and just thought I was out of the loop in not knowing her. Nope. Just another career scammer using poker as their latest source for harvesting victims.

    Surprised she had a baby at age 43 though. Unless its Travis' kid with another woman or something. Most women her age can't have a successful pregnancy with their own egg.

    Pretty much 100% she ditched out on her other kid though. Sounds like an awful person.
    She looks amazingly old in person. More like 50--almost like the twitter picture isn't her. Many who know her have lol'd hard at the hair-in-face pic-----wasn't aware that was such a common tactic.

    Pregnancy was amazing--cause she was babbling about drinking and partying and such right up until the thing popped out. All signs point towards it being hers tho...why else would Travis get with that creature? Well, he's a sick degen too, so it might be that.

    She caught a piece of a bad beat jackpot a few years back. That's what kept her floating around the poker scene for awhile.

    I don't see how you could let her move in with you if you had ever seen her twitter before...

  12. #32
    Welcher jsearles22's Avatar
    Reputation
    561
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    6,690
    Load Metric
    67578231
    Quote Originally Posted by TheREALmander View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by shortbuspoker View Post

    I'm gonna need a picture of you and Johnny Sepulveda to prove identity. He's the chubby guy that used to chase you around Foxwoods.

    Lol dudes... Have prob done 100s of interviews/radio shows etc over my career... No clue who this sepulveda person is at all. If we met, i dont remember because I meet a lot of people. I smile. I say hi. Thats that.

    And i have literally never been to foxwoods or any CT casino for that matter.
    :fraud



    So we are supposed to believe that Amanda comes back here a week after posting and this is literally her only reply? Seems like she is trying to duck Jasep quick
    It's hilarious that we as a society think everyone can be a dr, a lawyer, an engineer. Some people are just fucking stupid. Why can't we just accept that?

  13. #33
    Gold RegGaymer's Avatar
    Reputation
    52
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    1,367
    Blog Entries
    8
    Load Metric
    67578231
    This Mander person clearly got played by a veteran in the game of life. I think it's funny that she mentions playing 15k wpt's in the same blog post about getting scammed for 5k. The funny thing, is that you can't even class Kim as a scammer or a thief in this instance. From what I gather the bulk of the debt stems from rent owed on half the house that had already been paid for, when she was given a room in a 3 bed house? I'm not surprised she walked on the debt when she was being exploited like that.

    Easy game, stick to the young hot shot pro while the times are good - fill her full of praise, compare her to Selbst and Liu in poker media interview video's, and tell her she's the best thing since sliced bread so as to stay on her nice side - then happily bail when Mander's money starts to dry up and begins to hassle her about rent, then chucks her out at xmas. It's like a horse who's deep in make-up who gets dropped. If the backer wants to see that make-up they have to keep reloading or cut their losses.

    These poker players who come into big money when they're young can be so naive and completely lose the perception of what the value of money means to the everyday working person. $5.5k is a ridicilous amount of money that would take years to be paid off for a person on minimum to average wage.

     
    Comments
      
      ftpjesus: "this Mander person...ROFL dude either your a poor dupe or a clueless noob" Anybody posting on PFA knows who the hell Amanda Musameci is.
    Last edited by RegGaymer; 08-14-2014 at 03:57 AM.

  14. #34
    Diamond TheXFactor's Avatar
    Reputation
    1209
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Posts
    6,948
    Load Metric
    67578231
    Who the fuck is Kim Shannon?

    I know that Party Poker owns the WPT.

    People working in poker media don't get paid shit, only slightly better than minimum wage.

    Very doubtful you will ever get your money back.
    Lucky, you didn't lose more than $5500.
    Now you know better.

    Focus on making money playing poker, not on giving money to poker degenerates.

    Good Luck.



    Nice Pigtails.


     
    Comments
      
      ftpjesus: Sollid adivce.

  15. #35
    Bronze sd858duece's Avatar
    Reputation
    23
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Location
    San Diego California
    Posts
    139
    Load Metric
    67578231
    did Kim Shannon come out with her side of the story like she said she was in the last PFA radio show? I think she texted Druff saying she was going to come out with that info somewhere on Monday...

  16. #36
    Banned
    Reputation
    13
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    65
    Load Metric
    67578231
    Kim won't come out with anything but a fucking lie! She's a fucking S-C-A-M-M-E-R!

  17. #37
    Owner Dan Druff's Avatar
    Reputation
    10142
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    54,758
    Blog Entries
    2
    Load Metric
    67578231
    Kim has been in contact with me privately. She swears that she will come out with her side of the story very shortly, including unedited, full conversation captures.

    Looking forward to it.

    I promised to read her response on the radio show when she does.

  18. #38
    Cubic Zirconia
    Reputation
    14
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    33
    Load Metric
    67578231
    Kim has been in contact with me privately. She swears that she will come out with her side of the story very shortly, including unedited, full conversation captures.

    Looking forward to it.

    I promised to read her response on the radio show when she does.


    Ahem... I told you there would be NO response on Monday.

  19. #39
    Cubic Zirconia
    Reputation
    14
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    33
    Load Metric
    67578231
    This little Poker Writer ( Kim Shannon ) is a cancer on our industry.

  20. #40
    Diamond TheXFactor's Avatar
    Reputation
    1209
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Posts
    6,948
    Load Metric
    67578231
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Kim has been in contact with me privately. She swears that she will come out with her side of the story very shortly, including unedited, full conversation captures.

    Looking forward to it.

    I promised to read her response on the radio show when she does.
    How the fuck can you prove that the "conversations, texts and chats" are unedited?

    Amanda has 2 options here...

    1) Sell the debt for a faction of the value

    2) Put Kim on a very long payment plan

    It is pretty obvious that Kim Shannon is broke and has little or no money.
    Even if Kim acknowledges the debt, it would be a big hassle to try and get money out of her.


    Last edited by TheXFactor; 08-19-2014 at 02:43 PM.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. GG guy who leaked Amanda Todd nudes
    By sonatine in forum Flying Stupidity
    Replies: 92
    Last Post: 04-17-2014, 02:40 PM
  2. Prank Calls- Very Serious Business
    By Wiganer in forum Flying Stupidity
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 12-08-2012, 04:54 PM
  3. Man calls Police after eating 20 Fish Fry's
    By TheTemplar in forum Flying Stupidity
    Replies: 46
    Last Post: 05-17-2012, 12:45 PM