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    First off, again, I don't think anyone has a "right" to cybersquatting, so I don't feel too bad for you. You registered it, got threatened legally, decided to back down, and nobody is poorer for it (except for them when they hired that lawyer).

    So it's not a terrible result. Had you agreed to give them any money, THAT would have been a terrible result.

    I would have made up something else for that acronym (Belly Buster did a great job coming up with one) and claimed that was it. As far as the fact that you played the SHRPO, you could have insisted it was a coincidence. But I agree there's a good chance you would have lost that in court, as that would have been an odd coincidence (where as SHPRO, as I mentioned, wouldn't have been.)

    If you had asked me for advice, I would have taken their demand for the return of the domain (and that only) as a sign of weakness, indicating that they aren't looking to sue you for damages, and therefore just want the domain. I would have approached them with some token offer for buying it, making up some bullshit how you were really going to use it for yourself for whatever, and are willing to give it up for this amount of money just to spare everyone the legal battle. If they refused, you would almost always be able to call them up and offer just to give up the domain, unless they spent extra money filing an actual lawsuit (which wouldn't happen too quickly, so you'd have a little time).

    But again, I'm not a fan of cybersquatting because I think it's profiting unfairly from the work of others. In this case I was less outraged because Indian gaming is shady to begin with, just as I never felt bad for Full Tilt when Yebsite ripped them off. (I didn't know Full Tilt was stealing money at the time, but they had dealt with my dishonestly enough times to where I definitely felt they weren't salt-of-the-earth or worthy of sympathy.)

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    After that rant i'm going to snap-buy dandruff.ninja

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    Quote Originally Posted by matos View Post
    Yeah that was pretty much your only play here. When you're drawing dead it's best to fold. Next time have yebsite register the domain obv.
    Lots of old posters coming back

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by matos View Post
    Yeah that was pretty much your only play here. When you're drawing dead it's best to fold. Next time have yebsite register the domain obv.
    Lots of old posters coming back
    Still waiting for the return of michael..

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    Stop Homophobia, Racism, Prejudice, Orlando

    Being gay, and with race being the 3rd rail, parking it with something like this would have brought the most entertainment value. I could picture the Indians pondering whether they wanted to step on this land mine. Plus you may have gotten a free ACLU lawyer.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Stop Homophobia, Racism, Prejudice, Orlando

    Being gay, and with race being the 3rd rail, parking it with something like this would have brought the most entertainment value. I could picture the Indians pondering whether they wanted to step on this land mine. Plus you may have gotten a free ACLU lawyer.
    You laugh but the key was to put something like this up within a week or two . Nice homepage with a bunch of links to other gay support websites..... no way they would have approached it the same way and if they did you would have had newspapers lined up to tell that story.

     
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    Wait wait wait. This is very important.


    Are the Indians now claiming they won against the Cowboys? Im pretty sure sure the only victory the Sem Indians ever got was punking you into the domain name.

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    Druff you know "injun" is super offensive right. Probably not to the pint of "n-word" but at least equivalent to "spic" or "gook"

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    SHRPO main event with over $2.5 million overlay (biggest overlay in history?). Karma for SHRPO.com


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by PLOL View Post
    SHRPO main event with over $2.5 million overlay (biggest overlay in history?). Karma for SHRPO.com
    Somebody getting fired over this shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by PLOL View Post
    SHRPO main event with over $2.5 million overlay (biggest overlay in history?). Karma for SHRPO.com
    Yes this is the biggest overlay in history and it's not even close. It's funny to think that I was shocked just a few months ago that the Sunday Warmup had a 250k overlay (due to an error with late registration). At the time I wondered if that was the biggest overlay ever, until it was pointed out to me that the ISPT disaster left an extra 589k Euro on the table.

    But this... holy shit what a clusterfuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SrslySirius View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PLOL View Post
    SHRPO main event with over $2.5 million overlay (biggest overlay in history?). Karma for SHRPO.com
    Yes this is the biggest overlay in history and it's not even close. It's funny to think that I was shocked just a few months ago that the Sunday Warmup had a 250k overlay (due to an error with late registration). At the time I wondered if that was the biggest overlay ever, until it was pointed out to me that the ISPT disaster left an extra 589k Euro on the table.

    But this... holy shit what a clusterfuck.
    Looking forward to the SHRPO $5 Million Guarantee in 2015

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    BREAKING NEWS: LIVE LOOK IN AT THE CHIEFS LEARNING OF $2.5m overlay:
     
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    Just non-stop unrelenting LGBT propaganda being shoved down our throats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PLOL View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SrslySirius View Post

    Yes this is the biggest overlay in history and it's not even close. It's funny to think that I was shocked just a few months ago that the Sunday Warmup had a 250k overlay (due to an error with late registration). At the time I wondered if that was the biggest overlay ever, until it was pointed out to me that the ISPT disaster left an extra 589k Euro on the table.

    But this... holy shit what a clusterfuck.
    Looking forward to the SHRPO $5 Million Guarantee in 2015
    Didn't they initially announce a $10 mil guarantee for the Poker Showdown, before changing it to $5 mil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SrslySirius View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PLOL View Post
    Looking forward to the SHRPO $5 Million Guarantee in 2015
    Didn't they initially announce a $10 mil guarantee for the Poker Showdown, before changing it to $5 mil?
    Yeah, I think so. I was expecting there to be some overlay for this event. The first year was a novelty. This year the novelty has worn off, and they're competing with a big tournament at the Winstar (which is going to blow away it's $2.5m guarantee). But I was not expecting it to be this huge, obv (or I would've flown out there). I mean they got nearly $12 million last year for Christ's sake
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadyJ View Post
    Wait wait wait. This is very important.


    Are the Indians now claiming they won against the Cowboys? Im pretty sure sure the only victory the Sem Indians ever got was punking you into the domain name.
    Wait a sec The Indians (Redskins) have won 44 Lost 64 and Tied 2X during regular season so obviously they have won against the cowboys some BTW Redskins are UNDEFEATED against the Cowboys in Playoffs .. And if we really need to get poker oriented.. Cowboys are always a major dog to Tepees (Aces hahaha)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadyJ View Post
    Wait wait wait. This is very important.


    Are the Indians now claiming they won against the Cowboys? Im pretty sure sure the only victory the Sem Indians ever got was punking you into the domain name.
    Are you under the impression that Washington's mascot is the Seminoles? Are you unaware that there are different tribes of Indians?
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    Just non-stop unrelenting LGBT propaganda being shoved down our throats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PLOL View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ShadyJ View Post
    Wait wait wait. This is very important.


    Are the Indians now claiming they won against the Cowboys? Im pretty sure sure the only victory the Sem Indians ever got was punking you into the domain name.
    Are you under the impression that Washington's mascot is the Seminoles? Are you unaware that there are different tribes of Indians?
    That's racist

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    Just to make it worse, they also had a clusterfuck in the high roller event.

    AND THE HEAD GUY WAS AWAY ON VACATION!!

    http://f5poker.com/poker-news/2014/9...its-permanent/

    Cliffs:
    -they had a 100k high roller with 9 people
    -structure sheet says payout is 3 people, but floor had said only 2 payouts
    -Seiver gets the chiplead with ~500k chips, other guys all have ~100k chips. They stop at 5 people to livestream the day 2. Argues with floor and they will payout only 2 spots
    -as a goodwill "gesture" Hardrock puts up $50k 3rd place prize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simpdog View Post
    Just to make it worse, they also had a clusterfuck in the high roller event.

    AND THE HEAD GUY WAS AWAY ON VACATION!!

    http://f5poker.com/poker-news/2014/9...its-permanent/

    Cliffs:
    -they had a 100k high roller with 9 people
    -structure sheet says payout is 3 people, but floor had said only 2 payouts
    -Seiver gets the chiplead with ~500k chips, other guys all have ~100k chips. They stop at 5 people to livestream the day 2. Argues with floor and they will payout only 2 spots
    -as a goodwill "gesture" Hardrock puts up $50k 3rd place prize.
    So that is what Josh Arieh has been complaining about on Twitter for the last 2 days. I thought he was overreacting about structure or something but yeah this is a fucking problem!

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    Quote Originally Posted by simpdog View Post
    Just to make it worse, they also had a clusterfuck in the high roller event.

    AND THE HEAD GUY WAS AWAY ON VACATION!!

    http://f5poker.com/poker-news/2014/9...its-permanent/

    Cliffs:
    -they had a 100k high roller with 9 people
    -structure sheet says payout is 3 people, but floor had said only 2 payouts
    -Seiver gets the chiplead with ~500k chips, other guys all have ~100k chips. They stop at 5 people to livestream the day 2. Argues with floor and they will payout only 2 spots
    -as a goodwill "gesture" Hardrock puts up $50k 3rd place prize.
    Was there a guarantee on that?
    TRUMP 2024!

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    Just non-stop unrelenting LGBT propaganda being shoved down our throats.

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