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druff can you dm me or tine we would like to spend a couple grand and get a skatz patch on him if he makes the final table, this is not shenanigans this is real
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Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Geez. This reminds me of the infamous A7 moment with Joseph Cheong. What was Newhouse thinking here?
Obviously the guy has to be playing great overall to make it this deep twice in a row, but how do you not abandon A9 there, which is always drawing to 3 outs in this spot?
Guess he was obsessed with not believing what appeared to be a BB resteal.
What street are you critiquing exactly? It sounds nothing like the Chung hand. Newhouse raises. A guy reraises to about 15 percent of his stack no where near comitting himsel. Newhouse then four bets in a spot that will result in a fold by his opponent a ton of the time. By the time the guy reshoves all in Newhouse has the right price if the guy shows him kk.
If there is part of the story missing like the big blind is a stone nit without the ability to ever resteal then I understand your critique. I'm just confused by what street u guys have a problem with... are you suggesting to never 4 bet light at the wsop or are you saying to fold when you are clearly beat regardless of the price... in this instance it would be around 2.5/1 if Newhouse four bet was to 2.5 million. And getting closer to 3/1 if his four bet wad higher.
I didn't read the bet sizing and break the hand down, and I dont know the table dynamics or whether he had the right or wrong price. I'm not saying he was right or wrong or even critiquing how the hand was played.
Just saying last report I saw before this hand he had 15 million or so , he then got half of that stack in with ace 9. Just seems like a terrible spot to get into when you are near chipleader and cruising towards a final table.
Fortunately for him he didn't shoot off the last 7 million he had and has climbed up the charts and looks like he could be making the Novemver 9 again
I didn't read the bet sizing and break the hand down, and I dont know the table dynamics or whether he had the right or wrong price. I'm not saying he was right or wrong or even critiquing how the hand was played.
Just saying last report I saw before this hand he had 15 million or so , he then got half of that stack in with ace 9. Just seems like a terrible spot to get into when you are near chipleader and cruising towards a final table.
Fortunately for him he didn't shoot off the last 7 million he had and has climbed up the charts and looks like he could be making the Novemver 9 again
It's all in the writeup except for Newhouse 4 bet number which I assume would be around 2.75 milly. Which commits him to call off the 4 mil no matter how sickening of a call that is to make. To me the big blind has the perfect 30 big blind stack to execute a resteal. It actually screams resteal to me.
You don't get obsessed with winning every pot, and lay it down with an awful run-out hand like A9 when it appears your opponent really has it.
It's all in the writeup except for Newhouse 4 bet number which I assume would be around 2.75 milly. Which commits him to call off the 4 mil no matter how sickening of a call that is to make. To me the big blind has the perfect 30 big blind stack to execute a resteal. It actually screams resteal to me.
So Newhouse raises cutoff with A9hh (standard)
BB has AK and 3-bets (standard)
It this point there are really only 3 reasonable options:
1) Call and wait to see if you flop something to surprise him, especially knowing he has to act first and will be pot committed if he c-bets with the worst hand.
-or-
2) 4-bet him and then lay it down to a 5-bet
-or-
3) Fold
You don't get yourself into a mess where you talk yourself into calling the 5-bet shove because you can possibly 3-out the much better hand.
That's not how you get to the final table of the WSOP Main.
I have a feeling that Newhouse didn't play many hands like this, and this was just an anomaly, perhaps based upon previous hands they played (or just because the BB was aggro).
So yes, I am saying don't 4-bet resteal unless you are able to lay it down to a 5-bet.
Ladies and gentleman I present to you Joe sebok.You don't get obsessed with winning every pot, and lay it down with an awful run-out hand like A9 when it appears your opponent really has it.
So Newhouse raises cutoff with A9hh (standard)
BB has AK and 3-bets (standard)
It this point there are really only 3 reasonable options:
1) Call and wait to see if you flop something to surprise him, especially knowing he has to act first and will be pot committed if he c-bets with the worst hand.
-or-
2) 4-bet him and then lay it down to a 5-bet
-or-
3) Fold
You don't get yourself into a mess where you talk yourself into calling the 5-bet shove because you can possibly 3-out the much better hand.
That's not how you get to the final table of the WSOP Main.
I have a feeling that Newhouse didn't play many hands like this, and this was just an anomaly, perhaps based upon previous hands they played (or just because the BB was aggro).
So yes, I am saying don't 4-bet resteal unless you are able to lay it down to a 5-bet.
Math is idiotic reference not penis reference.
I think in this spot the math would say don't compound your four bet error with making an even worse error folding to his shove. It's literally 4 million to win 10.5 million if my estimate for his four bet number is correct.
Mark Newhouse makes a set and gets paid off by Bruno Politano. He's now up over 21 million
Mark Loves pocket 2s, he has been paid off huge with this hand a bunch the past 2 mains
quack quack, You crush all the AJ+'s that connect, any over pairs, and all two pair combos etc. Esp on uncordinated flops with no flush or str8 draw combos. Good hand, esp this deep in the main. Hope this guy wins it all, how could you not.Mark Loves pocket 2s, he has been paid off huge with this hand a bunch the past 2 mains
Then donks a bunch off, then chips up big again. He's all over the place.
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Yea I noticed, I am thinking since he made it to the November 9 last year with such a short stack he realizes more than all of these guys thats a bad place to be. Opening up his range a little to try and give himself an avg. stack to win it all is probably what he is thinking. And NOT getting there this time, in the same position he was last year. On top of that, their really isnt too much of a money difference between 10th and 9th. You have tons more to gain piling the chips now, than nitting it up and going to the November 9, short stack two years in a row.Then donks a bunch off, then chips up big again. He's all over the place.
RT @WSOP: Mark Newhouse flops another set to eliminate Max Senft in 11th place and take the #MainEvent to the unofficial final table.
GOD at work, all the kharma coming back to him now...
Obv new house is reading all the amazing strategy in this thread to help chip up and get back in the game.
Oh and s.u.g.
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