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    Nightmare at Bally's: Lost car in parking structure

    Prior to Saturday night, my all-time record for "losing" my car in a parking lot was 25 minutes. But I had a good excuse for that one.

    It was July, 1989, and I took my then-girlfriend to Six Flags Magic Mountain for her 17th birthday. That parking lot is huge, and everything looks the same unless you remember your section. My girlfriend, who had been really, really into me throughout our brief relationship, abruptly decided she didn't like me anymore, for literally no reason. After treating me poorly throughout the day, she dumped me at about 7pm. I didn't realize at the time that this was common for teen girls to do, and I was devastated by it.



    When I dejectedly walked to the parking lot to make the sad 55-mile drive home, I realized that the location of my car had slipped my mind, due to all the stress. I walked around for 25 minutes like a chump, and somehow finally located the damn thing. In hindsight, I'm surprised it didn't take me hours to find, because the lot was huge, my car was common, and it was starting to get dark.

    Fast forward almost 25 years.

    I had various other mental lapses in parking lots since then, but I always resolved them in a relatively short period of time.

    I had just busted out of the second flight of the Millionaire Maker, and got a message from Matt the Rat that he was about to get on the shuttle bus back to Bally's where he was staying, and asked if I wanted to stop by. I told Matt that I'd meet him at the shuttle stop and I'd drive him back to Bally's myself. So I went and found Matt, and we got in my car to Bally's. We were talking about all sorts of crap, and I just kinda zoned out and ignored where I parked the car. All I remembered was that I went up that weird side-of-the-building ramp to the Bally's self-park, but I had no clue which floor we parked on -- whether it was 3, 4, 5, or 6. There was a 7th floor, but I was pretty sure I didn't park there, especially since it was marked Employees Only.

    I grabbed a sandwich at Bally's, and sat for awhile there talking to Matt.


    2:20am

    I told Matt I was starting to get tired, and that I was going back to the Rio. Matt went up to his room, and I suddenly realized that I had absolutely no clue where I parked my car.

    I went up to the lot, and figured I'd probably find it. I remembered being fairly close to the elevator, so how hard could it be?

    I went to the 3rd floor. Walked around, even repeatedly clicking my remote to make the car beep. No luck.

    4th floor. Same thing. No luck.

    5th floor. Same thing, no luck.

    6th floor. Ditto.

    Then I remembered that I thought we had been on the 5th floor, so I tried looking more carefully there. No luck again.

    I tried walking deeper into the lot on both the 5th and 6th floors. No luck.

    I tried walking the 4th and 3rd floors. Again, no luck.

    I got a hold of Matt, who also didn't remember where we parked, but said that he also thought it was fairly close to the elevator.



    2:40am

    I was very hot, and couldn't stand walking around in that oven of a parking structure anymore. I called security of Bally's, and asked them to help. They told me to stay there and that they would send someone. I suggested that they drive me around the lot in their vehicle, and let me look for my car. They said okay. I told them I would be waiting by the 1st floor elevator.

    I stood there patiently, watching groups of obnoxious young drunks walk by me. I kept waiting and waiting for that security guard, for what seemed like an eternity. There was nowhere to sit.



    3:00am

    Finally, a security guard on a bicycle came riding out of the elevator. (????) I said, "You're here for the car thing, right?"

    He replied, "No, the one for you is right out that door. He's waiting for you."

    No idea what the bike guy was doing here at the exact time the other showed (and knew about my situation), but whatever. I went outside, expecting to see a vehicle waiting for me.

    It was another guy on a bike.



    What was he going to do? Let me ride on the handlebars?

    He told me that HE was going to search for my car, and wanted my key so he could ride around repeatedly pressing the unlock button. This didn't sound very efficient. I could describe my car, but certainly I would be better at recognizing it than he would. And what if he doesn't press the remote close enough to the car to make it beep? I thought this had fail written all over it.

    Still, he kept insisting that this would be the procedure, and told me he would be back in "15 or 20 minutes" with the location of my car. He asked for a very specific description of my car. I told him the make, model, year, and color. I even told him what I remembered of the license plate number. He seemed to take note of all of this, and took off on the bicycle. I wasn't too optimistic, but surely this guy had done this before, and knew what he was doing, right?

    I told him that I would be waiting in the same place -- by the 1st floor garage elevators.

    He took off, and I realized that I was way too tired and hot to continue standing. I decided to throw my pride out the window, and sat on the floor, like a derelict. Scores of drunk club kids walked by. Most ignored me, but a few (understandably) confused me for some guy who was too wasted to keep walking, and was just taking a rest in front of the garage elevator of a major strip hotel. Part of me was embarrassed, but the rest of me was too hot and tired to give a shit. In hindsight, I should have asked them to let me wait in the security office, but blackjack card counters like me have a natural aversion to casino security offices.


    3:20am

    It had been 20 long minutes. Where was this guy? Does it really take 20 minutes to go down the aisles of the parking lot on a bicycle, furiously pressing a remote button over and over?

    Okay, maybe it does. I wondered how long this would actually take. It's a big lot. What if the guy spends 2 hours on this project? What if, by some fluke, my car was stolen on the same night I forgot where it was parked? How would we ever conclude this with any kind of certainty?

    I was so sick of sitting on the floor. I wanted this to be over. All I kept picturing was the guy returning, telling me the exact location of my car, and then happily driving back and getting in bed. Being in that car again seemed like bliss. Nothing else mattered.



    3:40am

    I was fed up. It was time to call security and have them summon the troop back home. I had quite enough of the floor of the 1st floor garage elevator lobby.

    I got on the phone to security, and stood up. As it was ringing, I saw a flashing yellow light in the distance. Was it a bike? Yes, yes! It was a guy on a bike! And the flashing yellow light meant he was security!



    I waved my arms at him. Surprisingly, he didn't ride over to me immediately. Was it perhaps that other bicyclist security guard?

    No, it was the same guy I had been dealing with. He slowly rode back to me. I was hoping for the best, but bracing for the worst.

    "So your car is an SUV, right?"



    An SUV?! An SUV?! I spent 40 minutes on the floor waiting for his two-wheeled ass to return with good news, and he had been out looking for an SUV????

    I was beside myself. I had given the guy a very specific description of my car. He appeared to be listening closely, and appeared to be following my every word. What happened? Why did he waste 40 minutes searching for the wrong type of vehicle?

    He then started to question whether I had really parked my car in that lot at all.

    "Maybe you parked at Planet Hollwood," he suggested. I kept repeating that I remembered the very unique side-of-building ramp into the Bally's lot, and that no other lot in Vegas has such a thing. I also told him that I wasn't drunk or high, but had simply forgotten to note where I parked my car. I was 100% sure that my car was in this lot.

    He pulled out his smartphone. And I could see him pulling up a web browser.

    "Umm... what are you doing right now?", I inquired.

    "I'm going to google your car, so I can see what it looks like. Give me the make and model again. Then I'll go take another ride to find it."



    No.

    No.

    Absolutely fucking not.

    I tried it your way for the first round of fail, but we're definitely not having a sequel to this tragic story.

    "Sorry, but I really don't want to do that again. I spent 40 minutes down here waiting on the floor. I realize that it's my fault for forgetting where I parked, but if you didn't know what the car looked like, the googling of the model should have been done before you rode around the first time", I protested.

    "Well, uh, I thought that the remote would just pick it up, but now I'll actually be looking for the car itself," he replied.

    I wouldn't budge. "No, I can't do this again. I'm hot and tired. I can't sit on the floor for another 40 minutes."

    "You can wait in the security office instead," he interrupted.

    "No," I continued, "It's time for something different. No offense, but when this was already tried once without success, I really don't feel this is a productive use of your time or my time to try this again for another 40 mintues."

    "Oh no! It's fine! That's what we're here to do", he responded, apparently not hearing the part where I said that it was a poor use of BOTH of our times.

    He then insisted that "we just don't drive people around", and that the only way to assist in locating my car would be another bike ride.

    When I again refused, he offered, "I can call Metro to come take a report here, if you'd prefer that."

    The guy wasn't trying to be snotty. He really thought that my only two options were having him take another bike ride looking for my car, or to call the police and file a report.

    I told him, "There has to be a middle ground here. We aren't ready for the police to get involved in this, as I doubt it's stolen. But there has to be a solution where you can drive me around in some way. I'm sure that Bally's has at least one car at its disposal that can be used for this."

    He insisted again that this was impossible, but told me to go down to the security office and discuss it with them.


    3:55am

    I tried to find the security office, but its location wasn't at all obvious. Finally, I grabbed the first person I could find with a Bally's nametag.

    Coincidentallly, the guy I grabbed was the security manager. I told him what was going on. He also suggested that I give the bike thing another try, but when I steadfastly refused, he agreed to get a vehicle for me. He brought me to the office, and I waited there for the vehicle to be brought up.



    4:05am

    The vehicle arrived. The bike guy rode as the front passenger, and I rode in the back. I thought it was LOL that they needed TWO guards in the vehicle with me. What were they worried about? That I would overpower the driver, commandeer the security vehicle, and steal it?

    Despite the bike guy knowing that the car was not lower than floor 3 (as that's where the ramp enters, and I told him that I was 100% certain we didn't go down), they started the search on floor 1. When I realized this, I told them to forget floors 1 and 2, and they drove up to 3.

    I was still a bit concerned. What if I couldn't locate the car? What if I kept missing it because it got stolen or towed? What if it's hidden behind some large vehicle? What if we drive the whole lot and find nothing? Then what?

    We drove all of floor 3. Nothing.

    Floor 4. Nothing

    Floor 5. Nothing.

    Well, that only left one more thing to try. It had to be on Floor 6. We drove all over floor 6....

    Nothing.

    A sinking feeling came over me. Matt the Rat messaged me that he was sure I "must have found the car by now". I sadly replied to him that, no, I hadn't.



    4:20am

    The search continued on Floor 7, the employee parking area. I was pessimistic at this point, figuring that I wouldn't have parked there, nor did I remember driving up that high. Still, it was worth a shot, since I couldn't completely rule it out.

    We drove around and again got nothing, but then a ray of hope.

    I saw a flash of taillights while I was clicking the remote.

    Nope, it was just someone else going to their car. Damnit.

    But then another ray of hope. I heard a faint beep. I pressed it again, and another beep. It was my car! We kept following the beeps until the car was located -- floor 7, moderately close to the elevator (but not really close), right there in plain sight.

    If I hadn't been such a dumbass and refused to search floor 7 in the first place, I would have been in the car almost 2 hours ago.

    I can't tell you how happy and relieved I was at that moment.

    I said to the security guys, "Thanks for driving me around. Sorry for wasting your time on this."

    They graciously said, "No problem. You didn't waste our time. That's what we're here for."

    I got in my car, and never was I so happy to see it.

    And I'll never ever forget where I park ever again. That is, unless Benjamin's mom breaks up with me at an amusement park.

     
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    You keep an excellent record of time, sir
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    This has happened to me more times than I care to admit. It really sucks.

    In fact, even today I spent like 15 minutes looking for my car in the Rio parking lot because it's a rental that I'm not too familiar with and the range on the electronic key sucks ass.

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    after everything, did you pay a tip for the service?


    its very easy to forget where you left your car...especially when you have other things on your mind and you park in a different place each day...i have street parking where i work and twice in the last two years i've called the police to ask if my car had been towed when i couldn't find it at the end of the workday (i found it each time, parked in an unusual place for me)...


    one suggestion, put a towel or other unique object on the car dash (PFA Hat maybe?)...that is particularly good for when you are driving a rental, which tend to all look alike...and in this case, security would have had an easy way to single out your car.
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    And everybody knows you don't tip security. A lot of times they can't even accept tips.
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    I have tipped security guards before (most recently, in January when I needed one to wheel me to my car when I had the stomach flu), so they can accept tips -- at least at CET properties.

    However, I decided not to tip anyone in this case because they botched some things pretty badly.

    Most notably, making me wait for 40 minutes while the guy searched for the wrong vehicle (after taking a careful description from me prior to doing so) was pretty bad.

    The fact that I had to argue with two different people to get the car to drive me around (instead of a ridiculous second bike search) was also frustrating.

    At the same time, it was my fault that the car was lost in the first place, and they were expending resources because of my own forgetfulness. So I also felt responsible for the whole mess.

    When it was all said and done, I decided that it had been handled too incompetently to warrant any tipping, but at the same time, since it was my fault in the first place (and because they ultimately did what I asked), I also didn't feel it was right to complain to anyone about it.

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    lol at sitting in a car park like you've busted your bankroll and got nowhere to go.



    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    At the same time, it was my fault that the car was lost in the first place, and they were expending resources because of my own forgetfulness. So I also felt responsible for the whole mess.

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    When we drove to Bally's we were just talking about all kinds of random stuff as this was the first time I had met Todd for more than 5 minutes. It had been a long day for both of us as we had played poker all day and it was late. The Bally's main entrance is blocked off due to construction making it difficult to access the self park. There is only one entrance and if you miss it you are screwed and "should" drive around the block to access it properly. Todd actually missed the entrance the first time and said "screw it" and then decided to go down the Bally's driveway past a barricade the wrong way to get to the self park.

    I remember going up a few levels and parking, then walking to the elevator. The whole time we were just talking and both of us were not really paying attention. I did not even realize we parked in the employee only section. We went to Nosh a small place to eat beside the Bally's poker room. I just got some water because I had eaten earlier but Todd got a sub sandwich (with cheese on the side) We probably were talking for over an hour when Todd said he was tired and wanted to go back to the Rio.

    I went up to my room, put my phone on silent and then opened my netbook and was checking wsop.com and stuff for a while. When I finally went to bed I checked my phone and saw that I missed a message from Todd about 30 minutes earlier. He was asking if I remembered where we parked and that he could not find his car. I told him what I remembered roughly but was not totally sure. He messaged me a few updates. I was laying in bed wondering if I should go help, but there really wasn't anything I could do to help more than he was already doing. I laughed out loud to myself when I received a few of his message updates. It was a bad situation for Todd but to be honest it was kind of funny. I wasn't laughing at Todd but I was laughing at the epic fail situation. Here I was after a long day all comfortable in bed and ready to doze off, and Todd was hot, tired, and frustrated in my hotel parking lot.

    I even messaged Todd and told him "at least this will make a good radio story".

    Was good to meet up with you Todd.

    Matt

     
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    I almost lost my rental just driving around the Bally's parking garage & never even getting out. I then came to my senses & went back to valet even thought the sign said it was full where they informed me that "of course we have room to valet your car since you're a guest". I felt like such a newbie & I only wasted 10 minutes & not 3 hours so I now feel way better about it after reading this thread.

    Moral of this story: always valet your car in Vegas. Matt was a guest so it shouldn't have been a problem.

     
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    Here is a quick tip.

    Take a picture of the parking location with your fantastic smart phone. No, not a picture of the spot but the location number ex. FL7 A. I usually only do this if I'm parking in a large lot for a few days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodpoop View Post
    Here is a pro tip.

    Give a homeless guy $5 to sit by your car and tell him that you'll give him $5 more when you get back if he will yell POLO! every time he hears you yell MARCO!

     
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    I'm absent minded as hell and do this often. Not two hours bad often, only a few times in my life, but standard 20 minutes in a mall parking lot walking around feeling stupid. Looking like a tard pushing shopping cart around through snow banks in the winter at grocery stores. Concerts and sporting events where I've driven myself to meet others are my worst experiences. And I know on the way to make note, but my brain short circuits when I get there. If I went with someone, they'll always be the one who knows where we're parked.

    I have a horrible natural sense of direction and that inattention part of ADD that makes me forget where my keys are everyday, whether I closed garage door, must make a list for store even with 3 items, etc. Parking garages are the worst because they are generally real hot or cold, so you're walking hills in 100 or 0 degree weather where I live.

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    The valet suggestion isn't for me.

    I hate valet parking.

    If I had a chronic problem of forgetting where I parked, I would probably use the valet, but this was a rare occurrence for me. The few times I do forget my car's location, I almost always find it within 5 minutes. This one was a huge outlier.

    Why do I hate valet parking?

    1) I just generally don't like strangers driving my car. They also sometimes adjust the seat or mirrors, which I hate having to change back.

    2) If they dent your car (happens a lot more often than you think), they never own up to it. Yes, I know you can get dented in a self-park lot, but at least I have control over where I park.

    3) You have to detach your car key from the rest of your keys. If you don't, you're an idiot, because there have been many instances of your keys being copied and later being used to break into your house. In fact, I know someone whose CAR key was duplicated at a valet, and their car later stolen from outside their house.

    4) It's unpredictable when you get your car. You can end up waiting there forever waiting for it to come back, and that wait is terrible because you never know when it's going to end. I would much rather walk for 15 minutes to my car than wait 15 minutes for it to be brought to me. In general, self-parking is a lot faster, unless the lot is really far away.

    5) I'm getting tired of the higher expectation of tips. It used to be that $1 was customary, but now the valets treat you like an asshole if you dare hand them a single dollar. Never mind that they end up making way more (after tips) than people at much more skilled jobs.


    I know some of you are going to say, "Wait, but you're a Seven Stars member. You get priority valet."

    That's what you're supposed to get, but it's a lot of BS. I tested this at the Rio a few months ago. Waited like 15 minutes for my car on a day that wasn't very busy. Sure, you can have them leave your car up front, but you're expected to tip big ($20) for something like that, so I would never do that option.

    In general, I like serving myself whenever possible. This includes parking my own car, carrying my own bags, and pumping my own gas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodpoop View Post
    Here is a quick tip.

    Take a picture of the parking location with your fantastic smart phone. No, not a picture of the spot but the location number ex. FL7 A. I usually only do this if I'm parking in a large lot for a few days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    In general, I like serving myself whenever possible. This includes parking my own car, carrying my own bags, and pumping my own cock.
    Agreed

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    2) If they dent your car (happens a lot more often than you think), they never own up to it. Yes, I know you can get dented in a self-park lot, but at least I have control over where I park.
    I hear you on this one. My car isn't expensive by any means but one of the valets at the Beau Rivage in Biloxi curbed both the passenger side rims and they wouldn't do shit about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    I know some of you are going to say, "Wait, but you're a Seven Stars member. You get priority valet."
    Do the Vegas casinos not have designated parking spots for 7 star? In Tunica, the Horseshoe has a bank of handicapped and a bank of 7 star designated spots by the elevator on every floor of the parking deck. Given on the first floor the gaming commission has closer spots than the 7 star parking places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortbuspoker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Goodpoop View Post
    Here is a pro tip.

    Give a homeless guy $5 to sit by your car and tell him that you'll give him $5 more when you get back if he will yell POLO! every time he hears you yell MARCO!
    Druff aint ever giving Marty $5, and could you imagine what Marty would do in Druff's rented car???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt The Rat View Post
    When we drove to Bally's we were just talking about all kinds of random stuff as this was the first time I had met Todd for more than 5 minutes. It had been a long day for both of us as we had played poker all day and it was late. The Bally's main entrance is blocked off due to construction making it difficult to access the self park. There is only one entrance and if you miss it you are screwed and "should" drive around the block to access it properly. Todd actually missed the entrance the first time and said "screw it" and then decided to go down the Bally's driveway past a barricade the wrong way to get to the self park.

    I remember going up a few levels and parking, then walking to the elevator. The whole time we were just talking and both of us were not really paying attention. I did not even realize we parked in the employee only section. We went to Nosh a small place to eat beside the Bally's poker room. I just got some water because I had eaten earlier but Todd got a sub sandwich (with cheese on the side) We probably were talking for over an hour when Todd said he was tired and wanted to go back to the Rio.

    I went up to my room, put my phone on silent and then opened my netbook and was checking wsop.com and stuff for a while. When I finally went to bed I checked my phone and saw that I missed a message from Todd about 30 minutes earlier. He was asking if I remembered where we parked and that he could not find his car. I told him what I remembered roughly but was not totally sure. He messaged me a few updates. I was laying in bed wondering if I should go help, but there really wasn't anything I could do to help more than he was already doing. I laughed out loud to myself when I received a few of his message updates. It was a bad situation for Todd but to be honest it was kind of funny. I wasn't laughing at Todd but I was laughing at the epic fail situation. Here I was after a long day all comfortable in bed and ready to doze off, and Todd was hot, tired, and frustrated in my hotel parking lot.

    I even messaged Todd and told him "at least this will make a good radio story".

    Was good to meet up with you Todd.

    Matt
    Riveting stuff Matt

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