Anti-DN/Ivey pool?

[4Dragons]

Will be weird if they both FT the same table.

[handicapme]

I'd gamble 1k on this if druff starts a fund.

[uthglitch]

Since 2000

Ivey has won 5 different years (6 if you include Asia)
DN has won 3 years (4 if you include Asia/Europe)

They have won 8/14 years excluding Europe/Asia.

Since 2008 though, they are 2/6 excluding Europe/Asia. Bigger fields/better players/Ivey skipping out.

I thought it was slam dunk but maybe just +EV but not much.

Yes, this is summer only.

I don't think using results from the last 13 years is the best way of looking at it. It's not a very large sample size in terms of tournaments played, and while I respect both players, I think luck has played a large factor and that they're both running well above expectation.

Assuming he played 30 events per year on average, Phil Ivey won a bracelet in 2.3% of the events he played. That's an outlier, even if he is arguably the best player in the world. His true chances of winning a given tournament are waaaaaaay lower than that, especially with modern field sizes.

Hey sirious.

Since you love super human Ivey so much. Just wondering how his super sperm tastes when he came in your mouth? Since he did steal millions from people and all you can do is jock him.
I have to assume that he shot a gooey load in your fan boy mouth. If I'm wrong oops.

[4BET]

He might be willing to do a 5k with me with no escrow. We aren't friends, but he knows me somewhat, and especially appreciates that we share a disdain for the Howard and Annie (even before the Full Tilt debacle).

It's a good question as to whether or not this is a good bet. The small-field 10k events are where these two will have the best shot at doing it. For example, at the 5k limit hold 'em last year, there were only 170 runners, and I bet it will go down a little this year now that it's 10k. Ivey and Negreanu are both very good at limit hold 'em, as well as other limit games where we will be seeing 10k events.

Their disadvantage comes due to the fact that, in a small field heavy with pros, the final table becomes more of a matter of who runs the best rather than who is the best. So they will need some luck to win a bracelet, but if they enter enough small-field events, they might have a better than 50% shot at scoring at least one between the two of them.

Anyway, if people want to escrow through me, I will collect the money and throw in a bit myself, and we can get this done.

DN has to think they have a big edge in the 10k small fields but you must remember that a lot of the players who put up 10k in these events are specialists in that game/games, I will put 2k against but make sure its clear this is only the wsop in vegas not Europe etc, Let me know where and when to ship.

[DJ_Chaps]

Yes, this is summer only.

I don't think using results from the last 13 years is the best way of looking at it. It's not a very large sample size in terms of tournaments played, and while I respect both players, I think luck has played a large factor and that they're both running well above expectation.

Assuming he played 30 events per year on average, Phil Ivey won a bracelet in 2.3% of the events he played. That's an outlier, even if he is arguably the best player in the world. His true chances of winning a given tournament are waaaaaaay lower than that, especially with modern field sizes.

Hey sirious.

Since you love super human Ivey so much. Just wondering how his super sperm tastes when he came in your mouth? Since he did steal millions from people and all you can do is jock him.
I have to assume that he shot a gooey load in your fan boy mouth. If I'm wrong oops.

LOL @ Ivey stole.

[SrslySirius]

Yes, this is summer only.

I don't think using results from the last 13 years is the best way of looking at it. It's not a very large sample size in terms of tournaments played, and while I respect both players, I think luck has played a large factor and that they're both running well above expectation.

Assuming he played 30 events per year on average, Phil Ivey won a bracelet in 2.3% of the events he played. That's an outlier, even if he is arguably the best player in the world. His true chances of winning a given tournament are waaaaaaay lower than that, especially with modern field sizes.

Hey sirious.

Since you love super human Ivey so much. Just wondering how his super sperm tastes when he came in your mouth? Since he did steal millions from people and all you can do is jock him.
I have to assume that he shot a gooey load in your fan boy mouth. If I'm wrong oops.

Hey idiot.

I was doing a best-case analysis, being extremely generous in terms of ROI and volume to drive the point home that winning bracelets is fucking hard, even if you're impossibly good.

Before you ask, no, I don't think Negreanu has a 600% ROI either. Or can manipulate cards with his mind.

[Dan Druff]

Okay, so let's get an idea of what people will really send. I don't want to do this unless we are really going to get up to 5k.

Are you guys serious about this, especially the people pledging 1k?

If so, I'll start collecting for this and contact DN's assistant once we get close. Preferably, send the $ right now to me (PM for details) and I will ship it back to you if this doesn't happen.

[Dan Druff]

Also, just want to state that, due to the "Jasep Rule", nobody is allowed to escrow for this PFA pool except for me.

[big dick]

I will take $500 lmk where to send. can i send a money order?

[DJ_Chaps]

I will take $500 lmk where to send. can i send a money order?

Just don't ship one for 1k and ask for 500 cash back as change.

[Krypt]

I'm a broke college student, but strongly considering betting a large portion of my life savings on this

:mikeitso

[Krypt]

how funny would it be if Micon the Icon is the one who beats one of these scrubs in a heads-up situation and makes us money.

[Corrigan]

I will take $500 lmk where to send. can i send a money order?

Just remembered I still owe you $200 lol

[big dick]

oh yeah that's right. you taking a piece of this bet? seems like a solid bet to me

[Corrigan]

I think there are too many events with small fields that one of these 2 clowns could bink.

[Dan Druff]

I think there are too many events with small fields that one of these 2 clowns could bink.

There are, but the big question is whether they together have a 50% chance of doing so if they play every one of these small field events. I think it's close to 50%, but I still think it could be a +EV bet for us. It's close, though.

[Dan Druff]

Anyway, people who are serious about doing this, please PM me.

[WillieMcFML]

i have to get back the money plol is stealing from me so i'm in for 2k

[simpdog]

In for 1k if this goes down

[Sanlmar]

The Bank of Timex has spoken, and it likes DN's side. Well fuck.

I thought the Bank of Timex was suspended. Is it open for this action?