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    Thanks for answering the question. Another question, because I am too lazy to look up. Did anything ever happen with Aryas wolf?

    I remember in one of the books they made a big deal about her wolf leading a wolf pack in the forest, that made it seem like it would be a part of the story later.

    But I don’t remember the shows doing much with that storyline. In general the show peobably did a lot less with the wolves than GRRM intended. Probably a practical consideration. The money it would take to stick believable looking dire wolves in scenes over and over probably wasn’t worth it.

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    At what point does Jon turn around to Bran and say “hey asshole see that huge fella standing next to that bitch we have been trying to Kill for 8 seasons????? Yeah.... him...... any chance you can warg into him and cut her head off so we can save a ton of lives?”

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
    Thanks for answering the question. Another question, because I am too lazy to look up. Did anything ever happen with Aryas wolf?

    I remember in one of the books they made a big deal about her wolf leading a wolf pack in the forest, that made it seem like it would be a part of the story later.

    But I don’t remember the shows doing much with that storyline. In general the show peobably did a lot less with the wolves than GRRM intended. Probably a practical consideration. The money it would take to stick believable looking dire wolves in scenes over and over probably wasn’t worth it.
    Pretty sure you could have googled what happened to Arya's direwolf with less effort than what you've just posted

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    At what point does Jon turn around to Bran and say “hey asshole see that huge fella standing next to that bitch we have been trying to Kill for 8 seasons????? Yeah.... him...... any chance you can warg into him and cut her head off so we can save a ton of lives?”
    But we need Cleganebowl

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    Quote Originally Posted by RealTalk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
    Thanks for answering the question. Another question, because I am too lazy to look up. Did anything ever happen with Aryas wolf?

    I remember in one of the books they made a big deal about her wolf leading a wolf pack in the forest, that made it seem like it would be a part of the story later.

    But I don’t remember the shows doing much with that storyline. In general the show peobably did a lot less with the wolves than GRRM intended. Probably a practical consideration. The money it would take to stick believable looking dire wolves in scenes over and over probably wasn’t worth it.
    Pretty sure you could have googled what happened to Arya's direwolf with less effort than what you've just posted
    Probably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    At what point does Jon turn around to Bran and say “hey asshole see that huge fella standing next to that bitch we have been trying to Kill for 8 seasons????? Yeah.... him...... any chance you can warg into him and cut her head off so we can save a ton of lives?”
    in the books, warging is extremely tricky and if you fuck around you can get stuck in what youre warging into. also not everything/everyone can be warged into, there has to be some sort of sense of compliance on the part of the target. apparently people can get 'stuck' in what they warg into and its a situation.

    so its not as easy as arbitrary remote command&control.

    also worth noting; arya can warg into cats in the books. which may explain to some extent her stealthy pounce @ NK.
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    It would have been nice to see the show go a bit more in depth with warging and the rules/limitations and whatnot. Also not sure why they never explored any of the other winterfell wargs outside of Bran.

    It is largely implied in the last book that Jon is warging into Ghost as he is dying at the end. At the very minimum they should have had Jon warging a time or two throughout the show. Missed opportunity imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by RealTalk View Post
    It would have been nice to see the show go a bit more in depth with warging and the rules/limitations and whatnot. Also not sure why they never explored any of the other winterfell wargs outside of Bran.

    It is largely implied in the last book that Jon is warging into Ghost as he is dying at the end. At the very minimum they should have had Jon warging a time or two throughout the show. Missed opportunity imo

    and again it would explain how arya defeated the waif, which is arguably one of the more insane plot gaps in tv history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RealTalk View Post
    It would have been nice to see the show go a bit more in depth with warging and the rules/limitations and whatnot. Also not sure why they never explored any of the other winterfell wargs outside of Bran.

    It is largely implied in the last book that Jon is warging into Ghost as he is dying at the end. At the very minimum they should have had Jon warging a time or two throughout the show. Missed opportunity imo

    and again it would explain how arya defeated the waif, which is arguably one of the more insane plot gaps in tv history.

    I had almost forgotten Arya surviving the gut-stabbing until you brought up the waif just now...LUL

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    At what point does Jon turn around to Bran and say “hey asshole see that huge fella standing next to that bitch we have been trying to Kill for 8 seasons????? Yeah.... him...... any chance you can warg into him and cut her head off so we can save a ton of lives?”
    in the books, warging is extremely tricky and if you fuck around you can get stuck in what youre warging into. also not everything/everyone can be warged into, there has to be some sort of sense of compliance on the part of the target. apparently people can get 'stuck' in what they warg into and its a situation.

    so its not as easy as arbitrary remote command&control.

    also worth noting; arya can warg into cats in the books. which may explain to some extent her stealthy pounce @ NK.
    Which is a fairly cogent point...... so I must have missed the episode when they must have mentioned that....... because..... that... seems.... important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post

    in the books, warging is extremely tricky and if you fuck around you can get stuck in what youre warging into. also not everything/everyone can be warged into, there has to be some sort of sense of compliance on the part of the target. apparently people can get 'stuck' in what they warg into and its a situation.

    so its not as easy as arbitrary remote command&control.

    also worth noting; arya can warg into cats in the books. which may explain to some extent her stealthy pounce @ NK.
    Which is a fairly cogent point...... so I must have missed the episode when they must have mentioned that....... because..... that... seems.... important.

    interesting convo about the whole warg thing:

    https://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.ph...k-cat-warging/

    wear something aspie-proof if/when you read it but damned if these folks dont do work.
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    lol at people who read books in 2019

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    ok fuck that whole scene with bronn seriously wtf. I'm like dude you have no way to enforce any of this shit. If the show had balls Bronn would have murdered Tyrion and Jaime.

    "Hey we're gonna sneak up on two dragons with this fleet of huge ass ships" - said no fucking ship captain ever

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    The Iron Fleet obviously warged into some dolphins to allow them to sneak into position.

     
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    like just accept that we are getting a battle episode next followed by another 80 minutes of tropey garbage and then its over.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by gut View Post
    The Iron Fleet obviously warged into some dolphins to allow them to sneak into position.
    And no one else in 7000 years thought of giant crossbows which work with devastating aim and effect mounted on wavy ships. Morans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nunbeater View Post
    ok fuck that whole scene with bronn seriously wtf. I'm like dude you have no way to enforce any of this shit. If the show had balls Bronn would have murdered Tyrion and Jaime.

    "Hey we're gonna sneak up on two dragons with this fleet of huge ass ships" - said no fucking ship captain ever
    and it would have been way too exhausting to flank the ships and come in from the back or side where they are defenseless
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    like just accept that we are getting a battle episode next followed by another 80 minutes of tropey garbage and then its over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
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    like just accept that we are getting a battle episode next followed by another 80 minutes of tropey garbage and then its over.
    yup. so many lessons in GRRM's writing that could have guided the direction of this series just gone to waste

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