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    California measure to split state into 6 gaining momentum

    Interesting. Maybe some west coast folk can give a geography lesson for us East Coast people, are there already defined "areas" throughout the state with the way things are run now? Does this have any chance of happening or no?

    http://news.yahoo.com/plan-split-cal...hTD3YANrvQtDMD

    Los Angeles (United States) (AFP) - A plan to divide California into six separate US states is closer to making it on to a November ballot, with organizers gaining approval to collect signatures.

    The seemingly far-fetched initiative, sponsored by Silicon Valley venture capitalist Tim Draper, claims "political representation of California's diverse population and economies has rendered the state nearly ungovernable."

    And on Tuesday, the California Secretary of State's office gave the movement a boost, saying that proponents "may begin collecting petition signatures."

    At least 807,615 voters -- representing eight percent of the total ballots cast for governor in the 2010 election -- will need to sign the petition by July 18 to make it on to the ballot.

    The proposal aims to split the state -- America's most populous with around 38 million inhabitants -- into "six smaller state governments, while preserving the historical boundaries of the various counties, cities and towns."

    In 2012, California was tied with Russia and Italy -- all with a GDP of approximately $2.0 trillion -- for eighth place in world GDP rankings, according to the Center for Continuing Study of the California Economy.

    The proposal would create a state out of Silicon Valley, home to tech giants Google, Facebook and Apple. It would also create South California, which would include Hollywood and the US entertainment industry.

    West California, Central California, North California, and Jefferson in the most northern part of the state, would also go it alone.

    According to the proposal, voters overwhelming approved dividing California in two in 1859, but Congress did not act due to the Civil War.

    Draper, who has funded more than 400 companies including Skype and Baidu, is founder of venture capital firm Draper Fisher Jurvetson in Menlo Park, California.

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    It's not going to happen.



    While the six areas above are politically and culturally different, they are not blessed with equal population, industry, resources, or prime locations. Basically, the less-revenue-generating areas of California aren't going to go for this, because they are currently benefiting from the overall state revenue. If forced to fend for themselves, they would be in trouble.

    A proposal to split California into two more equal parts might have more success.

    In general, coastal California is more liberal, and inland California is more conservative. Oddly enough, this is not correlated to wealth. The wealthier areas are along the coast, but they tend to be liberal (especially in the north). The inland areas tend to be lower-middle-class, yet they are overwelmingly conservative, with the exception of towns with a large minority population.

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    Makes sense. Right now you have one broke state. Why not add another 5 governmental overheads to see if that solves the problem.
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    There is Nortenos and Surenos, everything else is bullshit.

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    I just checked my calendar & it's not April 1st.

    It's still a crock of shit.
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    They should give the Jefferson territory an area code of (420)

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    The people who hold the power in the leviathan that is California will never agree to this. It is literally the State that forces other States to do their will (CAFE Standards, e.g.).

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    That would be super gay for those praying for online poker legalization within California "IF" that was to pass which it won't.

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    California population 38 million??? holly shit i had no idea. Canada has barley 34 million total, and there is a bottom less pit of bureaucrats working us over and the taxes. it would be interesting to see a break down to see what is the difference in high level government employes and the cost to run California and the cost to run Canada?
    makes me think that splitting it up may not be such a bad idea. better than breaking off to form its owns country..... they certainly have the population and a premium piece of land.
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    Ain't happening. North Dakota might split though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Ain't happening. North Dakota might split though.
    North North Dakota and North South Dakota?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zealanddonk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Ain't happening. North Dakota might split though.
    North North Dakota and North South Dakota?
    No. Into 4. Names will be Fargo, Oil, Farms, and Fucking Nothing.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by zealanddonk View Post

    North North Dakota and North South Dakota?
    No. Into 4. Names will be Fargo, Oil, Farms, and Fucking Nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deal View Post
    Makes sense. Right now you have one broke state. Why not add another 5 governmental overheads to see if that solves the problem.
    This is the correct answer. It's gaining momentum in the sense that it used to be supported by almost nobody and now it's supported by a small handful of people.

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    Oh did some borderline reputable media outlet trot out the old "such and such state wants to be chopped up into pieces because Amurrica is hurting" meme?

    Because this is definitely the first site Id expect it to be taken seriously at.
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    How many of those states are going to get swallowed up by the ocean though? The janitor at elementary school told me it was going to happen so it has to be true.

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    I have had all the state capitals memorized since fifth grade. I'm trying to get a head start when the time comes. It hard to tell on the map if Sacramento is North California or Central but here are my guesses for the capitals.

    Jefferson - Redding

    North California - Sacramento

    Central California - Fresno

    Silicon Valley - San Jose (San Francisco/Oakland have enough)

    West California - L.A.

    South California - San Diego


    Honestly if they would ever do something like this that they won't they should just sell Jefferson to Oregon.

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    Saw this on Twitter and thought it was interesting. Not really sure if it's accurate or not.

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    A North and South California would be a better idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    It's not going to happen.


    Do it this way, it will pass!

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