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    Nevada casinos doing what they do best (losing over 100 million dollars a month in 2013)

    CARSON CITY, Nev. (AP) - Nevada's largest casinos, still climbing out of the recession, suffered a combined net loss of $1.35 billion in 2013, marking the fifth straight year without an overall profit, state regulators reported Friday.

    But there was some positive news in the annual abstract report released by the Nevada Gaming Control Board, which looks at the total revenue of casinos that gross more than $1 million in gambling revenue.

    The total revenue of the 263 casinos included in this year's report rose for the third consecutive year, to $23 billion. That's an increase of 0.4 percent, or $99.2 million, from 2012.

    While the casinos' losses grew by 11.2 percent or $136 million, a control board analyst said much of that was tied to increased expenses.

    "For the state, an increase in revenue was primarily driven by gambling," said Mike Lawton, senior analyst with the control board. "But due to an increase in expenses, the net loss for the state increased."

    Total revenue is the money patrons spent on gambling, rooms, food, beverage and entertainment.

    Net income or loss is what casinos retain after expenses have been paid, but before deductions for federal income taxes and accounting for extraordinary expenses.

    On the Las Vegas Strip, Nevada's gambling mecca of posh resorts, the losses narrowed, and for the first time since 2007, the growth of gambling revenue outpaced the growth from other aspects such as hotel rooms, food, beverages and entertainment.

    The Strip's gambling revenue of $5.7 billion was up 3.5 percent from 2012, while the Strip's total revenue of $15.5 billion rose 1.7 percent. It's the 15th straight year in which Strip gambling revenue made up less than half of all revenue, a trend indicative of a tourism market where visitors come for other recreational activities besides gambling.

    "It's a positive for the Strip," Lawton said. "Revenues increased and the net loss decreased."

    Statewide, the large casinos' $10.4 billion in gambling revenue rose 1.1 percent and accounted for 45 percent of total revenue, the second lowest percentage ever recorded.

    Nevada casinos haven't posted a net profit since 2008, when profits totaled $721 million. The bottom fell out a year later as the recession put a chokehold on the economy. Casinos in 2009 had a loss of nearly $6.8 billion.

    Before the current string of yearly losses, the only other net loss recorded by Nevada casinos was in fiscal year 2002, after the Sept. 11 attacks.

    The 263 casinos included in this year's report paid $804 million in gambling taxes and fees.

    Most of the casinos are in Clark County, which includes the Las Vegas Strip. The 150 Clark County casinos included in the report had a combined net loss of $1.3 billion on total revenue of $20.6 billion.

    Elsewhere in the state, Washoe County casinos reported a profit of $719,000, while the 18 casinos in Elko County had $42.7 million in combined net income. Five casinos on the south shore of Lake Tahoe had a net loss of $90 million, while the Carson Valley Area that encompasses Carson City and parts of Douglas county netted $7 million.









    Personally I blame the rake at the Commerce.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Since gambling revenue is probably going to stay flat why the hell would they increase expenses.

    I was just down in Vegas for CES and stayed at the cosmo. I rarely saw anything other than stacks of five dollar chips and the high limit room was always completely vacant. This wouldnt mean much but I have seen the same thing for the last year in most casinos (except for the Wynn and Aria). I think after the housing crisis people realized they couldnt print money anymore and wised up a bit. I really think Americans are a long way out from blowing money on gambling like they used to. The casinos will needs to hedge with the degens in Macau and rich tourists they can bring in. For example, most of the people I see playing high stakes at the Wynn are Chinese or from South America.
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    Vegas revenue is tied to middle class disposable income. When the middle class cant afford to fuck with Vegas, thats pretty much guts the market.

    Also, at least in my eyes, on top of being run down and tacky, Vegas felt straight up dated when I lived there in 2011.

    And lastly, we have the impact of the internet. I think Yelp single handedly destroyed the myth of the Vegas buffet, for example. And say what you will, shit like those buffets brought in small town America.

    Im guessing a lot of the 'extra expenses' they mention are state fees and taxes required to keep the Nevada gov from going busto and defaulting on god knows what, which at this point seems inevitable since there wont be a viable middle class economy in this nation for another two or three generations (providing nothing else goes wrong and we last that long).
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    We dropped the ball a few years ago when legal weed was on the ballots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegas1369 View Post
    We dropped the ball a few years ago when legal weed was on the ballots.

    Im sure it will be back soon.

    At which point you can look forward to a savage uptick in mental health issues resulting in a plague of violence and suicides.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by vegas1369 View Post
    We dropped the ball a few years ago when legal weed was on the ballots.

    Im sure it will be back soon.

    At which point you can look forward to a savage uptick in mental health issues resulting in a plague of violence and suicides.
    Please elaborate.

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    cut compensation of casino chief executives by a percent or two and those losses turn to profits
    (long before there was a PFA i had my Grenade & Crossbones avatar at DD)

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