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    Dan Harner, aka Flapjack1270, apparently scams gullible guy from 2+2

    This is an unbelievable story, not so much because of the scam, but because of how gullible and passive the victim was.

    Quote Originally Posted by KyddDynamite
    Cliffs at the bottom.

    I'm sure I will take heat because I was just involved in a different scam, but I'm staking people for live poker, I just accepted a bunch of new applications, and it comes with the territory.

    The Story:

    Oddly enough, a poster informs me that they sent me a PM in Pure_Aggressions PG&C.
    http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=1869

    I'm not going to dig up the PM because I got a ton around that time for staking and I might have deleted it anyways. But he explains his situation and asks for staking. I give him my Skype and we talk on there.


    [9/16/2013 2:21:36 PM] Daniel: Hey Kydd. We don't know one another (well I've played in PA against you three handed 10/25plo)... But I was wondering if you'd be interested in talking to me about joining your team. I'm an ex PLO HU pro that gave up on poker after black friday. But was very successful prior to that. I've dabbled here and there in live poker, but now I'd like to turn that into a full time gig again. I've had quite a bit of success live, but with my prior engagements, was unable to travel. Now the time has come that I have all the time in the world, just would like to have a backer.

    [9/16/2013 2:21:53 PM] Daniel: Hi Chad Power, I'd like to add you as a contact. Daniel

    [9/16/2013 2:23:21 PM] *** Chad Power has shared contact details with Daniel. ***

    [9/16/2013 2:25:18 PM] Chad Power: I don't recognize you in the picture, send me one and I'll see if I remember playing with you.
    I have a staking application online, but in the wake of all the dhcg bull**** I've lost interest in staking people who are playing in different casinos than I am.

    [9/16/2013 2:25:38 PM | Edited 2:25:46 PM] Chad Power: So if you want to tell me a little about what you're looking for from my end, then I'm listening

    [9/16/2013 2:27:16 PM] Daniel: I'm unfamiliar with the dchg situation. I don't typically follow the whole poker community. What casino's are you playing at? I'm looking into Detroit and Cinci (considering those have ridiculous PLO action nowadays) and possibly Hammond's Horseshoe.

    [9/16/2013 2:28:28 PM] Daniel: Basically, not sure if you're familiar with online poker much (I honestly don't know your background)... but I'm Flapjack1270 from ultimate bet and absolute poker. I was murdered by DOJ on black friday for well over 7 figures that I'll never see again.

    [9/16/2013 2:32:11 PM] Daniel: So I gave up on poker after that and just travelled with my girlfriend (now ex). And settled down in Chicago and did the respectable job thing for a few years. Now that I'm not tied down to anyone or anything, I'd like to get into poker fulltime again. I only play PLO, so I'd want to travel to cities that offer a consistent game of it. Detroit, Cinci, Hammond, (maybe Vegas but I heard it's only 1/3 that runs consistently and thats a little low for my liking)... Let me see if I can't find a picture that you might recognize. It was a short session, we played with a guy named Sean (whom you later played against in the round by round game with The Counselor. I played the 5/5 game during that time.



    I vaguely remembered playing with him in Pittsburgh once. The conversation continued with us talking about the specifics of my expectations in staking etc. I was suspicious of his story, but ultimately, as long as he could make me money I didn't even care. We made plans for him to come to Maryland for a week.

    On Oct 18th he came to my house. I gave him some money to play and see how things worked out. This isn't my standard, but since he was claiming to be a HSPLO grinder, I felt like there was nothing I could coach him with and it was all about him showing me he was who he says he was.

    First night he losses 300bb. He comes back to my place and drinks all the beer my other horse had bought without asking him.

    The next day him and I played a session together and he was terrible. Super loose/passive no concept of math or preflop hand strength. He loses another 300bb. I move him down in stakes now that I've seen him play, and ask him not to play until I begin to coach him. He plays the next day anyways loses 200bb and it was a misunderstanding.

    We have a coaching session, he loses 300bb the next day (300bb is stoploss). I am sleeping when he comes home, but he wakes me up and tells me the game is super good and if he pays me his makeup now can he keep playing. I'm thinking "wtf" but I just woke up and I just want him to gtfo so he writes me a check for $4k, and I give him $2k more. When he was writing the check my gut kept telling me to ask him to show me his bank account, but I didn't do it just because it was awkward. Instead, I asked if he had the money in his account and he scoffed and just said of course. He goes back to the casino and wins 200bb.

    This Is Where The story Gets Interesting:

    I come home from playing and I hear someone in the shower upstairs. It's Dan, which is weird because he was staying right by the downstairs shower and no one was using it.

    He leaves to go play, and doesn't come back that night. He had played some long sessions before so I didn't think much of it. Marathon session. A few days pass, we don't see him in the poker room and no one can get a hold of him. We begin to worry. One of my horses searches the woods behind the house, but doesn't find him. After four days, I decided to filing a police report for a missing persons and also contact his parents to see if they had heard from him.

    Just before I called the police, I got a text from a horse saying he had defriended me on Facebook. So I chalk it up as a scam and I come home. The reason I hadn't already assumed scam is because he had left all of his stuff in his room.

    So, when I got home my horses and I went through his stuff. We found some really suspicious stuff. A notepad with multiple names written down. All generic names which we thought could be multiple identities. However, we also had multiple copies of his birth certificate, so probably not fake identities. There was AA info, GA info, multiple phones, sim cards, USB drives, his laptop, and a bunch of junk and notes.

    I couldn't get into his laptop, but the sim cards and USBs had all kinds of encryption/hacker information and software on them.


    At some point in the basement we were talking about when we saw him last, and the last time he was at my house is when he took the shower upstairs. It clicked in my head. I went up to my room and $10k-$15k was missing.

    I contacted people he had written down in his notebook, and apparently they are all people he has scammed. The one guy said he tried to get a hold of me. Dan had stolen stuff off of him and then sold it to get to Maryland.

    Two days later, Dan shows up to the house. He says he freaked out after dutsing off all the money. I told him I went through his stuff, he understood. He claimed he didn't blow any money in the pit, and he didn't take money out of my room. He asked if he could do a load of laundry. I said yes, and I never let him leave my sight. He left the house while the laundry was in and never came back. I have not seen or heard from him in a month. All his stuff is still sitting at my house.

    A week or two after that I'm getting $100 blackjack match plays in the mail in his name.


    Cliffs:
    -Dan Harner aka Flapjack1270 contacted me for staking saying he played nosebleeds PLO and lost it all on black Friday.
    -He wasn't good at poker.
    -He likely stole $10k-$15k off me along with dusting off around $6k and writing me a bad check for $4k.
    -He left without saying anything and all his stuff still resides at my house.
    -I went through the stuff and the suspected super user has encryption software/info on USBs and sim cards that he left here.
    http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...ruser-1393440/

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    My conclusions:

    1) Not a superuser, just a scammer.

    2) He's a degenerate who was broke and smelled an easy mark. He was serious in wanting you to stake him. Why not? It was free money for him to try to get his life back on track.

    3) It wasn't premeditated to steal from you. That's why he left his stuff behind.

    4) After he kept losing, and asked for that cash in exchange for the check, he saw where you had the money, as you pointed out. This was not a premeditated way to find out where you kept your cash, but rather a new opportunity he noticed that he couldn't resist.

    5) He probably hadn't decided at the time to steal the cash, but rather considered it back and forth, eventually deciding to do it. When he did decide to steal the cash, he used the shower thing as a cover, stole it, and quickly left to go play. He probably did shoot the money off at the local casino. He probably reasoned to himself that he would win, and then return the cash before you realized it was gone. That's also why he didn't take his stuff.

    6) After a few days of super-degenerate play at the casino, he came back, figuring you probably didn't know the money was gone. When you confronted him, he realized the jig was up, and he had to leave. Knowing you were such a passive guy, he had the nerve to ask to do laundry before he left (which you agreed!) He likely took what he really wanted during the "laundry" visit, and never came back.


    This simply was NOT a premeditated plan to steal from you, or he wouldn't have left any stuff behind, nor would he have returned to the scene of the crime just to save a few bucks on using a laundromat. This was a sick, selfish individual, who used you first as a staker, then graduated to bad-check-writing when the stake was drying, and then graduated to direct cash theft when he lost the money from the bad check.

    This completely lacked organization and logic.

    This chump also wasn't a superuser, as he has no known association with UB, nor would he have been devastated by Black Friday (as he would have known the truth that UB was broke, and wouldn't have held that kind of money on there.) Also, all evidence suggests the superusing stopped after 2008.

    If he was really a terrible player, yet won huge online, it is possible that he shared his account with others.

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