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    British banker creating luxury charter airline in Vegas specificallly for whales

    Sounds pretty sick.

    http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2013...-charter-airl/



    Monday, July 8, 2013 | 1:07 p.m.
    A British-born international banker has pledged as much as $80 million for the launch of a Las Vegas-based luxury global charter airline to serve high-rollers on direct flights from China, Russia, South America and the Middle East.
    Additional funding is promised from his Saudi Arabian bank investors as the airline progresses from its September startup.

    Financier Oscar Peters told me in an exclusive interview: “This is now the first time we wish to talk about our plans as we will obtain our necessary certifications in August. Our FAA/DOT license will cover our first six jumbo jets and a smaller fleet of individual jets from a planned New York hub.

    “It’s an international airline, far more global in reach than domestic. Asian and Russian casinos are reaping far more than Las Vegas casinos. There is far more money internationally than in the U.S. currently. But wherever you go, Las Vegas is still the Gaming and Entertainment Capital of the World, and players from Dubai, South America, Mexico, China and Brazil aren’t afraid to spend — and they want to do it in Las Vegas.

    “Until now, though, there have been no direct luxury flights to pull in a lot of those people. You have all the low-cost airlines operating out of Las Vegas, and, frankly, nothing in the middle and its luxury brands that work well. Nothing exists, so it makes great sense, and there truly is a lot of new potential as Las Vegas bounces back.”

    Oscar, who is relocating from his Monaco headquarters to L.A. and has already purchased a Las Vegas estate, says he’ll launch the tentatively titled Las Vegas Airways right on the Strip in the form of a 747 shell to be used as a promotional nightclub ultra lounge until it’s transformed into the terminal point.

    “I want it branded as another Las Vegas icon and give people the opportunity to taste the brand even before the flights commence,” he added. “We have preliminary designs for our first planes, and we want passengers to be in Las Vegas from the moment they step inside the flight wherever it is in the world.

    The initial layouts by Edese Doret Industrial Design in New York feature 10 living compartments and 200 premium seats, lounge areas, a living plant wall, table dining and luxury bathroom facilities. Oscar’s studies have shown that family, friends and executive entourages who work for high-level VIPs flying in the lavish quarters would use the premium seats. The company has a 20-year history of designing private plane and luxury yacht interiors.

    “We need to bring back the glamour that was originally built into Las Vegas, and we think we can help revitalize Las Vegas because that classic Hollywood appeal has gone missing,” said Oscar. “This will not even be an average first-class concept — above that. Think seven star and chic beyond words.”
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    Oscar, 54, is the owner and major shareholder of International Boutique Investment Bank in Monte Carlo and EXIM Development Bank at the Offshore Trade Free Zone in Cameroon. He says his investor clients from the Middle East including members of the Saudi royal family, Asia and Europe will be part of the investor group for the proposed airline.

    He also is director of the ADHD children’s charity organization ChildsMiracleMind.org and SchoolofNow.org. Groundbreaking ceremonies for the first school in New Mexico are set for September, and he promises one in Las Vegas as his business develops here.

    “I have been to Las Vegas a hundred times with colleagues and clients in the past, but this will be our first venture there,” he said. “We like the current rebuilding business climate of Las Vegas. There’s a lot of new potential with Las Vegas, and we want to back into it in a big way. We have a very wide portfolio of business ventures, but this will be our first airline venture.”

    CEO partner Sean Smith and he have already signed an impressive group of veteran airline executives to run the business. Sean, a member of the 1990 U.S. boxing team, told me: “ We plan to be very steady and solid in our approach to development as we are in no need of capital, nor are we in a rush to run forward with blinders. We expect that planes will be in the air and landing in Las Vegas in line with some of the other major projects on the Strip in about 12 months.”

    When the official press announcements are made in September, the partners will announce the full executive lineup in tandem with the worldwide Mango Aviation Group headquartered in London. Managing partner Andrew Cowen and Mango work with many air transport companies providing a range of services from strategic development and business design to implementation and management. The company has most recently been involved with Virgin Blue and Emirates, but have agreements with more than a dozen air carriers.

    The company plans to name as its startup president Dr. John Wensveen, co-founder of Maxjet Airlines, an all first-class London-to-Las Vegas charter carrier. The president and CEO of Airline Visions, John also was dean, School of Aviation, at Dowling College in New York, where he was chief academic and administrative officer for the 120-acre Brookhaven Airport campus and was professor of airline management at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University. He is considered one of the aviation industry’s leading experts on airline operations specializing in startups.

    The expected COO to be named will be Bryan Johnston, former CEO the past nine years of Aviation World Services. Prior to that, he was director of operations for Private Jet Airlines in Atlanta and airline operations manager, Canada 3000, at one time the largest charter airline in the world.

    Sean commented: “We know this has been tried before, and we have studied every failure to the point of lunacy. However, our key is that we are doing it on a size and scale and focus fitting to the demand, marketplace and assets of the city, which I believe are the best they have been in 30 years. We have a seasoned international airline team, a very robust, connected and patient investor and developed a planned approach with private and public customers to give Las Vegas its own successful luxury airline with the financial ability to weather nearly any storm moving forward.”
    I bet all the nosebleed players cream their pants after reading this, a new lease on life in Vegas at the poker table ripping off rich people who don't give a fuck.

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    Getting them to vegas is one thing.....having the casinos pay you a shitload to steer the whale to their tables should be interesting. How do you take money from one and not piss off the others?

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    I don't understand how this would work at all. A good chunk of the people they're targeting already own their own planes. The casinos all have twin engine planes (the kind that normally have 30-60 seats) configured as flying luxury living rooms. I don't know what the range on those planes are. They definitely can't get across the Pacific.

    Buying 6 planes involves hundreds of millions of dollars. I can't imagine even rich people will pay what it would cost to recoup that kind of investment on top of operating costs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post
    I don't understand how this would work at all. A good chunk of the people they're targeting already own their own planes. The casinos all have twin engine planes (the kind that normally have 30-60 seats) configured as flying luxury living rooms. I don't know what the range on those planes are. They definitely can't get across the Pacific.

    Buying 6 planes involves hundreds of millions of dollars. I can't imagine even rich people won't pay what it would cost to recoup that kind of investment on top of operating costs.
    Trans atlantic teenage hookers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post
    I don't understand how this would work at all. A good chunk of the people they're targeting already own their own planes. The casinos all have twin engine planes (the kind that normally have 30-60 seats) configured as flying luxury living rooms. I don't know what the range on those planes are. They definitely can't get across the Pacific.

    Buying 6 planes involves hundreds of millions of dollars. I can't imagine even rich people will pay what it would cost to recoup that kind of investment on top of operating costs.
    Why do you think they can't get across the Pacific?

    Seems like fairly large planes, if it seats over 200 passengers and has space for all of that luxury stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post
    I don't understand how this would work at all. A good chunk of the people they're targeting already own their own planes. The casinos all have twin engine planes (the kind that normally have 30-60 seats) configured as flying luxury living rooms. I don't know what the range on those planes are. They definitely can't get across the Pacific.

    Buying 6 planes involves hundreds of millions of dollars. I can't imagine even rich people will pay what it would cost to recoup that kind of investment on top of operating costs.
    Why do you think they can't get across the Pacific?

    Seems like fairly large planes, if it seats over 200 passengers and has space for all of that luxury stuff.
    I'm talking about the casino planes. When you drive past the airport on Las Vegas Blvd you can see them. My point is that the casinos already have planes to handle domestic whales. That leaves just foreigners as the target market.

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    Give it a decade. Las Vegas will be like Atlantic City compared to Macau.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonamoose View Post
    Give it a decade. Las Vegas will be like Atlantic City compared to Macau.
    There's a solid chance that the Chinese economy is going to take a huge dump in the next decade. I've thought that for a while. But the VICE piece showing how a huge percentage of the Chinese GDP is unneeded construction made me fairly sure of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by anonamoose View Post
    Give it a decade. Las Vegas will be like Atlantic City compared to Macau.
    There's a solid chance that the Chinese economy is going to take a huge dump in the next decade. I've thought that for a while. But the VICE piece showing how a huge percentage of the Chinese GDP is unneeded construction made me fairly sure of it.
    I'm not talking about China. I'm talking about Macau. Macau runs off the HKD and is only a protected zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by anonamoose View Post
    Give it a decade. Las Vegas will be like Atlantic City compared to Macau.
    There's a solid chance that the Chinese economy is going to take a huge dump in the next decade. I've thought that for a while. But the VICE piece showing how a huge percentage of the Chinese GDP is unneeded construction made me fairly sure of it.
    Not to get off topic but I saw that, and that shit is pretty unbelievable.

    Ghost towns all over China, with all these fancy buildings that are deserted. Crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonamoose View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post

    There's a solid chance that the Chinese economy is going to take a huge dump in the next decade. I've thought that for a while. But the VICE piece showing how a huge percentage of the Chinese GDP is unneeded construction made me fairly sure of it.
    I'm not talking about China. I'm talking about Macau. Macau runs off the HKD and is only a protected zone.
    So if China goes into a massive recession, you don't think that will affect Macau?

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    vice piece? can someone please link me? thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by anonamoose View Post

    I'm not talking about China. I'm talking about Macau. Macau runs off the HKD and is only a protected zone.
    So if China goes into a massive recession, you don't think that will affect Macau?
    Not nearly to the extent you're thinking. A lot of the people that are high rollers in China are international investors and/or have already reinvested their money into HK. Also, Macau's investors aren't all Chinese either.

    Finally, if there is a recession it will only be a housing recession. Housing is subsidized by the government there, there's not a whole lot of real estate wealth in China. China still manufacturers and sells a shit ton of goods. When the recession hit here it was a combination of declining manufacturing and the housing market. China will always have the manufacturing under their belt.

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    Not that someone allready did it or something...

    "Las Vegas Sands Corp. currently operates 15 luxury jets, used primarily for transportation of the company's executive officers and VIP guests of its properties. Most of the aircraft in the Las Vegas Sands fleet and owned by and registered to Las Vegas Sands Corp., and a few are registered to Interface Operations, LLC, a Massachusetts-based company owned by Sands CEO Sheldon Adelson. Three of the Interface Operations, LLC aircraft--a Boeing 737-700, Gulfstream III and Gulfstream IV--are on lease from Yona Aviation, LLC. Sands' two Boeing 747SP aircraft are registered toa Interface Operations Bermuda, LTD.

    All 15 Las Vegas Sands aircraft are based out of Las Vegas McCarran International Airport."

    Good luck with your great, great idea to make money in a market that has Chapter 11 as company credo and playing it against the venetian...

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