Chino Rheem gets staked for 111k one drop; blows the money on baccarat?

[Belly Buster]

I am very close with someone that worked for a massive staking operation back during the hey day of online poker.

Chino was one of the horses, but most of them couldn't be trusted and most were big names. They were all criminals of opportunity - if given the opportunity to steal they almost all would depending on the likelihood of getting caught and the amount. One thing I learned was different personalities steal in different ways. These are some of the most well known names in poker and collectively their credibility was found wanting. Chino wasn't any better or worse than the ethical median.

Interesting.

The problem with the poker community in general is that it's comprised of those who want to make easy money without working.

That typically doesn't attract honest, salt-of-the-earth characters.

Once a poker player goes broke (or close to it), he goes into panic mode. He wants to do anything to stay in action, and especially doesn't want to admit failure and return to the real, mundane world of working for a living. In some cases, they don't have the education or skills to get a decent job.

At this point, they typically resort to staking arrangements, and will often steal for extra money when they can, especially when the staking arrangement isn't making them much.

[Sidewinder]

Druff is right... The laziness of poker players is boundless. Amazing there is so much money in poker given this fact.

The re-buy events were great for the stable of players getting staked...impossible to document or keep track of; this went for the WSOP staff as well. I think one reason they stopped having them was the lack of fiduciary control. The players used to re-buy so fast and so much money was flying around there is zero chance the floor people didn't prosper in some way during this time. No receipts were given when you re-bought. The lack of accountability was mind blowing.

[son of lockman]

Chino Rheem is a bad for the game of poker. I've personally seen him in action and know some things very few others know.

[JimmyG_415]

some people the 2+2 thread were thinking this might be the end of him.
My thinking is it might be 111k, but it is only one more person, and if he isn't afraid of the poker community, he probably isn't scared of Guy.
Now, I did think he would take a break, but these posts were yesterday

-He's playing open face Chinese in the Rio right now
-Chino is in the pavilion currently

He is not only robbing the poker world, he is rubbing it in their face, now.

[tommyt]

some people the 2+2 thread were thinking this might be the end of him.
My thinking is it might be 111k, but it is only one more person, and if he isn't afraid of the poker community, he probably isn't scared of Guy.
Now, I did think he would take a break, but these posts were yesterday

-He's playing open face Chinese in the Rio right now
-Chino is in the pavilion currently

He is not only robbing the poker world, he is rubbing it in their face, now.

im sure he'll get a



soon

[Rollo Tomasi]

I am very close with someone that worked for a massive staking operation back during the hey day of online poker.

Chino was one of the horses, but most of them couldn't be trusted and most were big names. They were all criminals of opportunity - if given the opportunity to steal they almost all would depending on the likelihood of getting caught and the amount. One thing I learned was different personalities steal in different ways. These are some of the most well known names in poker and collectively their credibility was found wanting. Chino wasn't any better or worse than the ethical median.

Interesting.

The problem with the poker community in general is that it's comprised of those who want to make easy money without working.

That typically doesn't attract honest, salt-of-the-earth characters.

Once a poker player goes broke (or close to it), he goes into panic mode. He wants to do anything to stay in action, and especially doesn't want to admit failure and return to the real, mundane world of working for a living. In some cases, they don't have the education or skills to get a decent job.

At this point, they typically resort to staking arrangements, and will often steal for extra money when they can, especially when the staking arrangement isn't making them much.

so much for the young guns cleaning up the shadiness of the old time poker hustler's rep's
it seems the allure of easy money and dishonesty are generational diseases
so now we have young gamboling hustlers to replace the old ones

[SpewArtist]

Also, based on prior and current photos of chino, I would bet a ton that he is dealing with a severe crack or meth addiction

A couple weeks ago, I was playing cash in the Pavilion, I went outside to smoke and found myself standing right next to Chino and some other guy. Obviously, I did my best to eavesdrop on their conversation. I couldn't catch all of it but the convo sounded like a straight drug hookup/deal. Chino gave the other guy a number and said "Yea, just call him, tell him your name, and tell him you know Chino, and it'll be fine." After this the convo changed and Chino started talking about money he owed blah blah blah and I couldn't catch the rest.

Take what you want from this.

[Dan Druff]

He also played the same even I did yesterday ($1500 NL). Not sure how he did. The LOL thing was that the final table of the One Drop was audibly in the background as we were playing.

Wonder if that was awkward for him. Probably not.

[Rollo Tomasi]

or is this one better

[cmoney]

or is this one better

"Rhemmo Rolled" should be the new Rick Astley

btw, has this been confirmed to have happened? Yesterday it was still in rumor mode

[Rollo Tomasi]

or is this one better

"Rhemmo Rolled" should be the new Rick Astley

btw, has this been confirmed to have happened? Yesterday it was still in rumor mode

someone needs to chop that cmoney

someone needs to invite Chino to post in this thread to deny it
or maybe even someone sitting at his table in the NL $1,500 hmmm hmmm with a personal invite, make sure to wear your Press Badge if you do Druff


can you imagine how pissed Guy would be if he saw "I got Rheemed by Chino" or
"Rheemo Rolled"

[Sloppy Joe]

Following his 1997 Main Event win, Stu Ungar looked Gabe Kaplan (his good friend) right in the eye, held up a picture of his young daughter, and said that he was going to turn everything around for her sake.

He immediately shot off the $500k he won on drugs and sports betting, and was dead 15 months later.

Sometimes people are degenerates all the way down to their core.

A heavy gambling addiction isnt much different than a hard core drug addiction. Both hard core gambling addiction and drug addiction act on the brain in similar ways. That is what I love about my 3 day trips to Vegas. You can grab a a flight out of there before it completely drains your soul.

Hilarious that someone would actually give him the cash versus be there when he registered for the event and make sure he had a ticket.

I guess though he could always un register and get the money back right?

I've always thought that a genuine gambling addiction would be super hard to overcome.

At least drug addicts feel physically better after going through detox. I imagine gambling addicts go through serious cycles of depression when not in action or while in rehab. Obviously no excuse for behavior but still. No wonder recidivism is so high among degenerate gamblers.

Pretty wild to brazenly roll someone so brutally

[cmoney]

A heavy gambling addiction isnt much different than a hard core drug addiction. Both hard core gambling addiction and drug addiction act on the brain in similar ways. That is what I love about my 3 day trips to Vegas. You can grab a a flight out of there before it completely drains your soul.

Hilarious that someone would actually give him the cash versus be there when he registered for the event and make sure he had a ticket.

I guess though he could always un register and get the money back right?

I've always thought that a genuine gambling addiction would be super hard to overcome.

At least drug addicts feel physically better after going through detox. I imagine gambling addicts go through serious cycles of depression when not in action or while in rehab. Obviously no excuse for behavior but still. No wonder recidivism is so high among degenerate gamblers.

Pretty wild to brazenly roll someone so brutally

On a personal note I saw some of this happen to me. During the last two NFL seasons I have crushed it. I just havent lost. I lost one game and went 18-1-1. I didnt really share on forum how much I was betting but toward the end it was a lot and therefore I was winning a lot. I was smart about it and didnt fire too hard in the pits or do anything else really stupid. I think the dumbest thing I did was make some crazy UFC bets and lost of few of those.

However, I got a really good glimpse into how a brain addicted to gambling works. My own.

I usually stay 3 days max in Vegas. There are many reasons for this but mostly it is because of the excessive drinking, I got shit to do etc etc. However, I noticed that about half way through last season when I would get home I would be in a super shitty mood for a few days after I got back. I had just kicked Vegas' ass for the 7th time in a row that season and I was feeling like crap. At first, I kind of shrugged it off as I had just drank too much and my body was not happy. However, it continued for the rest of the season. I would win alot of money in Vegas, get back, and feel shitty for the next 3 days.I finally figured out what was going on. My brain had gotten so use to those feel good chemicals that come with winning that when I would get back home there was nothing to produce those same effects. I was actually going through a withdrawal that to me resembled cocaine withdrawal.

I have this theory that when you are gambling with money you care about most people will be forced to go through some withdrawal. It is the act of losing. So lets say you get on a heater and win a bunch of money. You then either go home or lose it back. When you lose it back you feel like shit/stupid and that in a way I think kind of resets your brain. If you go home after you win, the rush was short lived and probably doenst have any long term effect. The difference was I was not losing, so all i would get is feel good chemicals and never bad feelings that come with losing.

Luckily for me, I was able to recognize what was going on with my brain chemistry. Also, after 3 days I was forcefully withdrawn from the environment (via Southwest flight back home). This shitty feeling I had was all short lived and the longest depression probably lasted a week. But I got a really good glimpse of the gambling addiction progression and what it felt like. It also made me realize that if you are surrounded by it, and cant spot it, you will fall just as hard a drug addict. Maybe not physically but mentally you get destroyed. Your fate is turning into a zombie and being a slave to one of those shit hole casinos on a strip. You will just going through the motions hoping to hit a jackpot so you can do it all over again.

Btw, I am sure there are people that can win all day long, for a long period of time, and not feel any kind of negative symptoms. I think it also depends on how you approach it. For example, Billy Walters treats it like a business whereas Stu Ungar just fired non stop on anything.

[Bootsy Collins]

I've always thought that a genuine gambling addiction would be super hard to overcome.

At least drug addicts feel physically better after going through detox. I imagine gambling addicts go through serious cycles of depression when not in action or while in rehab. Obviously no excuse for behavior but still. No wonder recidivism is so high among degenerate gamblers.

Pretty wild to brazenly roll someone so brutally

On a personal note I saw some of this happen to me. During the last two NFL seasons I have crushed it. I just havent lost. I lost one game and went 18-1-1. I didnt really share on forum how much I was betting but toward the end it was a lot and therefore I was winning a lot. I was smart about it and didnt fire too hard in the pits or do anything else really stupid. I think the dumbest thing I did was make some crazy UFC bets and lost of few of those.

However, I got a really good glimpse into how a brain addicted to gambling works. My own.

I usually stay 3 days max in Vegas. There are many reasons for this but mostly it is because of the excessive drinking, I got shit to do etc etc. However, I noticed that about half way through last season when I would get home I would be in a super shitty mood for a few days after I got back. I had just kicked Vegas' ass for the 7th time in a row that season and I was feeling like crap. At first, I kind of shrugged it off as I had just drank too much and my body was not happy. However, it continued for the rest of the season. I would win alot of money in Vegas, get back, and feel shitty for the next 3 days.I finally figured out what was going on. My brain had gotten so use to those feel good chemicals that come with winning that when I would get back home there was nothing to produce those same effects. I was actually going through a withdrawal that to me resembled cocaine withdrawal.

I have this theory that when you are gambling with money you care about most people will be forced to go through some withdrawal. It is the act of losing. So lets say you get on a heater and win a bunch of money. You then either go home or lose it back. When you lose it back you feel like shit/stupid and that in a way I think kind of resets your brain. If you go home after you win, the rush was short lived and probably doenst have any long term effect. The difference was I was not losing, so all i would get is feel good chemicals and never bad feelings that come with losing.

Luckily for me, I was able to recognize what was going on with my brain chemistry. Also, after 3 days I was forcefully withdrawn from the environment (via Southwest flight back home). This shitty feeling I had was all short lived and the longest depression probably lasted a week. But I got a really good glimpse of the gambling addiction progression and what it felt like. It also made me realize that if you are surrounded by it, and cant spot it, you will fall just as hard a drug addict. Maybe not physically but mentally you get destroyed. Your fate is turning into a zombie and being a slave to one of those shit hole casinos on a strip. You will just going through the motions hoping to hit a jackpot so you can do it all over again.

Btw, I am sure there are people that can win all day long, for a long period of time, and not feel any kind of negative symptom. I think it also depends on how you approach it. For example, Billy Walters treats it like a business whereas Stu Ungar just fired non stop on anything.

When I went to Vegas the last 4 or 5 times, my focus was solely on poker and video poker. This past trip I got spanked so hard I was a miserable wreck for quite sometime.

I spent some time soul searching and realized that the poker/gambling lifestyle is just not for me and I was no longer having fun. From this I decided to leave LLPR and focus on some more beneficial interests of mine.

I will return to Las Vegas in August but it will be a lot different from my previous trips. I only have 1 daily that I will play in and that will most likely be it as far as poker. I am going to refrain from playing the bot pr any other video poker machine. I might shoot some craps once or twice depending on my mood. Otherwise I will be dining like a king for 5 nights, all of them high end restaurants. I have the best seats in the house for Le Reve and Love. I will be living large in a suite at the Aria and will be spending my days chilling at the pool and drinking overpriced tropical concoctions.

[Walter Sobchak]

I've always thought that a genuine gambling addiction would be super hard to overcome.

At least drug addicts feel physically better after going through detox. I imagine gambling addicts go through serious cycles of depression when not in action or while in rehab. Obviously no excuse for behavior but still. No wonder recidivism is so high among degenerate gamblers.

Pretty wild to brazenly roll someone so brutally

On a personal note I saw some of this happen to me. During the last two NFL seasons I have crushed it. I just havent lost. I lost one game and went 18-1-1. I didnt really share on forum how much I was betting but toward the end it was a lot and therefore I was winning a lot. I was smart about it and didnt fire too hard in the pits or do anything else really stupid. I think the dumbest thing I did was make some crazy UFC bets and lost of few of those.

However, I got a really good glimpse into how a brain addicted to gambling works. My own.

I usually stay 3 days max in Vegas. There are many reasons for this but mostly it is because of the excessive drinking, I got shit to do etc etc. However, I noticed that about half way through last season when I would get home I would be in a super shitty mood for a few days after I got back. I had just kicked Vegas' ass for the 7th time in a row that season and I was feeling like crap. At first, I kind of shrugged it off as I had just drank too much and my body was not happy. However, it continued for the rest of the season. I would win alot of money in Vegas, get back, and feel shitty for the next 3 days.I finally figured out what was going on. My brain had gotten so use to those feel good chemicals that come with winning that when I would get back home there was nothing to produce those same effects. I was actually going through a withdrawal that to me resembled cocaine withdrawal.

I have this theory that when you are gambling with money you care about most people will be forced to go through some withdrawal. It is the act of losing. So lets say you get on a heater and win a bunch of money. You then either go home or lose it back. When you lose it back you feel like shit/stupid and that in a way I think kind of resets your brain. If you go home after you win, the rush was short lived and probably doenst have any long term effect. The difference was I was not losing, so all i would get is feel good chemicals and never bad feelings that come with losing.

Luckily for me, I was able to recognize what was going on with my brain chemistry. Also, after 3 days I was forcefully withdrawn from the environment (via Southwest flight back home). This shitty feeling I had was all short lived and the longest depression probably lasted a week. But I got a really good glimpse of the gambling addiction progression and what it felt like. It also made me realize that if you are surrounded by it, and cant spot it, you will fall just as hard a drug addict. Maybe not physically but mentally you get destroyed. Your fate is turning into a zombie and being a slave to one of those shit hole casinos on a strip. You will just going through the motions hoping to hit a jackpot so you can do it all over again.

Btw, I am sure there are people that can win all day long, for a long period of time, and not feel any kind of negative symptoms. I think it also depends on how you approach it. For example, Billy Walters treats it like a business whereas Stu Ungar just fired non stop on anything.

You compare it to coke withdrawal, do you have experience with that?

[cmoney]

On a personal note I saw some of this happen to me. During the last two NFL seasons I have crushed it. I just havent lost. I lost one game and went 18-1-1. I didnt really share on forum how much I was betting but toward the end it was a lot and therefore I was winning a lot. I was smart about it and didnt fire too hard in the pits or do anything else really stupid. I think the dumbest thing I did was make some crazy UFC bets and lost of few of those.

However, I got a really good glimpse into how a brain addicted to gambling works. My own.

I usually stay 3 days max in Vegas. There are many reasons for this but mostly it is because of the excessive drinking, I got shit to do etc etc. However, I noticed that about half way through last season when I would get home I would be in a super shitty mood for a few days after I got back. I had just kicked Vegas' ass for the 7th time in a row that season and I was feeling like crap. At first, I kind of shrugged it off as I had just drank too much and my body was not happy. However, it continued for the rest of the season. I would win alot of money in Vegas, get back, and feel shitty for the next 3 days.I finally figured out what was going on. My brain had gotten so use to those feel good chemicals that come with winning that when I would get back home there was nothing to produce those same effects. I was actually going through a withdrawal that to me resembled cocaine withdrawal.

I have this theory that when you are gambling with money you care about most people will be forced to go through some withdrawal. It is the act of losing. So lets say you get on a heater and win a bunch of money. You then either go home or lose it back. When you lose it back you feel like shit/stupid and that in a way I think kind of resets your brain. If you go home after you win, the rush was short lived and probably doenst have any long term effect. The difference was I was not losing, so all i would get is feel good chemicals and never bad feelings that come with losing.

Luckily for me, I was able to recognize what was going on with my brain chemistry. Also, after 3 days I was forcefully withdrawn from the environment (via Southwest flight back home). This shitty feeling I had was all short lived and the longest depression probably lasted a week. But I got a really good glimpse of the gambling addiction progression and what it felt like. It also made me realize that if you are surrounded by it, and cant spot it, you will fall just as hard a drug addict. Maybe not physically but mentally you get destroyed. Your fate is turning into a zombie and being a slave to one of those shit hole casinos on a strip. You will just going through the motions hoping to hit a jackpot so you can do it all over again.

Btw, I am sure there are people that can win all day long, for a long period of time, and not feel any kind of negative symptoms. I think it also depends on how you approach it. For example, Billy Walters treats it like a business whereas Stu Ungar just fired non stop on anything.

You compare it to coke withdrawal, do you have experience with that?

I messed around with it a bit in college (15 years ago) but not since then. After a few days of doing it you definitely felt like shit when you were coming down. I imagine cocaine and a gambling high probably release dopamine in a similar fashion.

[Sanlmar]

Going on a heater definitely changes your thought process. It is like being under the influence of narcotics - and not good feelings of euphoria either.

Despite whatever discipline and rules you have set for yourself - your head just gets rewired.

Was on a ridiculous run Sat & Sun. I recognized how silly I ran. Ridiculous run of quads. Gotta shut it down and press reset. I had completely lost my feel of normal variance & I knew I was high. I had these thoughts.

Well, you know how it ends..... It's as if you need to lose to return to sobriety. As CMoney said, forcefully be removed from environment.

Great thread!

[simpdog]

cmoney still pray/sacrifice goats/drink rum with Jobu/stick pins in a Micon doll/whatever to the wormhole for this upcoming NFL season.

It's not a gambling problem if you go undefeated this season.

[Belly Buster]

I am very close with someone that worked for a massive staking operation back during the hey day of online poker.

Chino was one of the horses, but most of them couldn't be trusted and most were big names. They were all criminals of opportunity - if given the opportunity to steal they almost all would depending on the likelihood of getting caught and the amount. One thing I learned was different personalities steal in different ways. These are some of the most well known names in poker and collectively their credibility was found wanting. Chino wasn't any better or worse than the ethical median.

Interesting.

The problem with the poker community in general is that it's comprised of those who want to make easy money without working.

That typically doesn't attract honest, salt-of-the-earth characters.

Once a poker player goes broke (or close to it), he goes into panic mode. He wants to do anything to stay in action, and especially doesn't want to admit failure and return to the real, mundane world of working for a living. In some cases, they don't have the education or skills to get a decent job.

At this point, they typically resort to staking arrangements, and will often steal for extra money when they can, especially when the staking arrangement isn't making them much.

[Rollo Tomasi]

You compare it to coke withdrawal, do you have experience with that?

I messed around with it a bit in college (15 years ago) but not since then. After a few days of doing it you definitely felt like shit when you were coming down. I imagine cocaine and a gambling high probably release dopamine in a similar fashion.