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    Anyone using e-cigs or vaping instead of smoking cigarettes?

    The technology has really advanced in the last year and the choices for vaping are endless. I've cut down on my smoking a lot in the last few years but looking to completely eliminate cigarettes from my life, and thought this might be the way to go. Anyone have expertise?
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    Is this thread bait or something? You know where to go. This and Bitcoins are the two subjects on which Micon is actually useful.
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    I think it is all hype. Folks think that vaping is safe yet there has been no studies to confirm this. A lot of these e-liquids are not being produced in FDA approved clean rooms and are most likely made in a garage or office. Are the retailers stating that Vaping will help stop smoking? safer than cigarettes? Curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Is this thread bait or something? You know where to go. This and Bitcoins are the two subjects on which Micon is actually useful.
    Oh really? Did not know that. I don't read anything from Micon these days - for a long time actually. I would have expected his vaping to be about pot, not tobacco replacement, but what do I know. Anyways not going over to his forum to read even if its good information - there are entire forums dedicated to ecigs and vaping, and I am perusing them as well, but I was hoping someone here might have a story to share. In case you hadn't noticed, I like it here - good people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snake_in_the_ass View Post
    I think it is all hype. Folks think that vaping is safe yet there has been no studies to confirm this. A lot of these e-liquids are not being produced in FDA approved clean rooms and are most likely made in a garage or office. Are the retailers stating that Vaping will help stop smoking? safer than cigarettes? Curious.
    Gotta be safer than cigs - cigarettes are the worst possible thing you can do to your body. I don't know if the retailers are promising smoking cessation but I do think its possible to trade one addiction for another. It's done all time.
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    You don't need ecigs. Just fucking quit smoking. Use a nicotine patch for a month if you must. Show your kido a good example and display some willpower.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deal View Post
    You don't need ecigs. Just fucking quit smoking. Use a nicotine patch for a month if you must. Show your kido a good example and display some willpower.
    I don't care about the nicotine very much... I only smoke a couple of cigarettes a day. I actually showed a lot of willpower I suppose over the last few years - cut my habit down to virtually nothing.

    I do enjoy it though, especially after a good meal or with a good drink. Just looking for something less carcinogenic but equally satisfying... nothing wrong with that.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vwls View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by snake_in_the_ass View Post
    I think it is all hype. Folks think that vaping is safe yet there has been no studies to confirm this. A lot of these e-liquids are not being produced in FDA approved clean rooms and are most likely made in a garage or office. Are the retailers stating that Vaping will help stop smoking? safer than cigarettes? Curious.
    Gotta be safer than cigs - cigarettes are the worst possible thing you can do to your body. I don't know if the retailers are promising smoking cessation but I do think its possible to trade one addiction for another. It's done all time.
    I was curious what the retailers were saying in your neck of the woods because my friend owns a few vaping retail stores in Cali and he instructs his employees to never state they are safer than cigarettes. He also instructs them to say that vaporizers/ecigs are not smoking cessation devices. Anything that is considered a smoking cessation device must be regulated by the FDA.

    They seem safer than cigs but who knows. What really is in that liquid? Are they using pharmaceutical grade propylene glycol or agricultural grade? Is it made in China or in someone's backyard?

     
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    I didnt even realize that Micon actually has a forum anymore where he could promote his crap. Isnt DD just a bunch of videos and radio links? Where the hell is his forum?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by snake_in_the_ass View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vwls View Post
    Gotta be safer than cigs - cigarettes are the worst possible thing you can do to your body. I don't know if the retailers are promising smoking cessation but I do think its possible to trade one addiction for another. It's done all time.
    I was curious what the retailers were saying in your neck of the woods because my friend owns a few vaping retail stores in Cali and he instructs his employees to never state they are safer than cigarettes. He also instructs them to say that vaporizers/ecigs are not smoking cessation devices. Anything that is considered a smoking cessation device must be regulated by the FDA.

    They seem safer than cigs but who knows. What really is in that liquid? Are they using pharmaceutical grade propylene glycol or agricultural grade? Is it made in China or in someone's backyard?
    Everything else is made in China, why not e-cigs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vwls View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Deal View Post
    You don't need ecigs. Just fucking quit smoking. Use a nicotine patch for a month if you must. Show your kido a good example and display some willpower.
    I don't care about the nicotine very much... I only smoke a couple of cigarettes a day. I actually showed a lot of willpower I suppose over the last few years - cut my habit down to virtually nothing.

    I do enjoy it though, especially after a good meal or with a good drink. Just looking for something less carcinogenic but equally satisfying... nothing wrong with that.
    E-cigs are useless if you don't care about the nicotine.

    I smoke 2-3 cigs a month, usually at night paired with a bowl hit and do it simply because it is enjoyable and relaxing.

    It's really my only health/fitness leak and I tired an e-cig about a month ago to see if it would substitute.

    Tasted funky and the nicotine went straight to my head, like that cigarette that knocks you off your feet that real smokers love. I don't like that feeling and won't be using e-cigs again.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vwls View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by snake_in_the_ass View Post
    I think it is all hype. Folks think that vaping is safe yet there has been no studies to confirm this. A lot of these e-liquids are not being produced in FDA approved clean rooms and are most likely made in a garage or office. Are the retailers stating that Vaping will help stop smoking? safer than cigarettes? Curious.
    Gotta be safer than cigs - cigarettes are the worst possible thing you can do to your body. I don't know if the retailers are promising smoking cessation but I do think its possible to trade one addiction for another. It's done all time.
    There are several politicians out there who think differently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRK Star View Post
    I didnt even realize that Micon actually has a forum anymore where he could promote his crap. Isnt DD just a bunch of videos and radio links? Where the hell is his forum?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GambleBotsSatire View Post
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    I didnt even realize that Micon actually has a forum anymore where he could promote his crap. Isnt DD just a bunch of videos and radio links? Where the hell is his forum?
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    Well, fwiw, I smoked tobacco for many years, but I quit and haven't smoked for several years. My piece of advice: don't use the nicotine gum--it's as addicting as tobacco and almost as expensive. I would think the same is true for e-cigs.

    It's tough to quit and you will continue to crave them for a long time afterwards, but the day will come you won't even think of them anymore--and wonder why you didn't quit earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sitting Out View Post
    Well, fwiw, I smoked tobacco for many years, but I quit and haven't smoked for several years. My piece of advice: don't use the nicotine gum--it's as addicting as tobacco and almost as expensive. I would think the same is true for e-cigs.

    It's tough to quit and you will continue to crave them for a long time afterwards, but the day will come you won't even think of them anymore--and wonder why you didn't quit earlier.


    I don't know a single person that didn't get addicted to the nicotine gum.

    Also, e-cigs are the same way. Whether you accept it or not, it's the nicotine that eventually drives you back. Switching to an e-cig will not decrease your smoking habits, it will just simply get rid of a lot of the toxins that a traditional cigarette comes with. However, with an e-cig you also can't monitor how much nicotine you take in for quite a while. With a traditional cigarette you know like hey one cig and that's all I need for the next hour, but when you start up with an e-cig you don't know how many hits you need. This will also change depending on the type of liquid. Concentrations may be different. So you actually run the risk of increasing the amount of nicotine you need to function, though at the same time you obviously get rid of 99.9% of the bad shit that goes in your lungs with a regular cigarette.

    I don't use e-cigs and I don't recommend using them. I know people that have used them and they all have eventually gone back to regular cigarettes and often times smoked more than they did before. If you're going to quit and you can't quit cold turkey, as I've shown I can't, you're going to need to get chantix or something similar.

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    Thanks for the input guys. My doctor told me she considers smoking 2-3 cigarettes a day 'not smoking.' But there is something about the reproachful look on my daughter's face when she sees me with a cigarette - I just want to eliminate them completely. I thought e-cigs might be fun - I obv wouldn't be vaping them very often. Maybe once a day, or more likely a couple times a week?

    From what I am reading, you can now control the amount of nicotine very precisely, but to be honest, I was thinking of just ordering the "juice" that has no nicotine at all. As I mentioned, I am not really that into getting a nicotine fix - for me it's more about the oral gratification of the act of smoking.
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