Twitter War of the Day between Maven, Dan Fleyshman, and Eric Morris from Bluff

[BeerAndPoker]

Eric,

Thanks for telling your side which I've heard the basics in the past. It's good to get the word out about scammers in hopes you can prevent them from stealing from someone else in the future.

From everything I've seen about Dan Fleyshman and his past business dealings their certainly are multiple incidents to make people question his business ethics. I think it's awful that Dan just brushes off these things like it's no big deal and that people should still trust in his character.

The fact is just because your business fails don't mean you should get a free pass on your debts. Dan takes the responsibility of owning a Poker site (skin) and should know the risks that go into it. I don't know what kind of money Victory Poker blew but I remember seeing all their pros, promos, and youtube clips to realize these guys are partying it up very hard.

Victory Poker was likely spending way more then they should of even if Black Friday never happened. The online poker world has another site that is still serving Americans blowing their money now and can't pay the rest of the world players yet that is a different discussion altogether.

Again, thanks for coming on this forum and posting the story. Hopefully this will help get the word out even more what people can expect if they get involved in a business dealing with Mr. Fleyshman.

[superallah]

twitter war.

this word is aids.

[EricM]

Thanks BeerandPoker. I wish you could see my inbox of people sharing their similar experiences with Dan Fleyshman. I have urged them to go public, we shall see if they do.

[garrett]

Thanks BeerandPoker. I wish you could see my inbox of people sharing their similar experiences with Dan Fleyshman. I have urged them to go public, we shall see if they do.

Always nice to hear directly from the source on these forums. Thanks for putting your side out their.

[bukowski72]

The Maven is a broke faggot. He'll probably off himself in the next year or two.

Pretty douchey thing to say so I have to ask. What exactly did he do to you that makes you say something so absurd. I know nothing about this whole crew, so am honestly indifferent about all this but had to ask. This Maven guy seems to be well known in the old online poker world out there in Vegas, but never really seen chasing bracelets. So what is it about him everyone seems to dislike so much?

If you have not noticed judging by the reception I have seen people get from this crowd, I would take most of what you say, with a grain of salt no offense.

Garrett is worse than jsearles if he isn't his dupe. Maybe garret is hoser's cousin or something.

Micon endorsed the maven so you knew maven would turn out to be shit.

Older thread about the maven with a few laughs:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...-broke-975296/

[big dick]

maven = dirty jew imo/ fu maven you pos

[JSTAT]

Micon endorsed the maven so you knew maven would turn out to be shit.

Not only Micon endorsed The Maven, but also Zac aka #SnakeInTheGrass. Here is Zac shilling for TheMavenVT.

[DanFleyshman]

Sorry Im dealing with funeral so this will be short & to the point.
I respond to these types of things to clear the air but may not be able to jump back in the forum so will just nullify Eric's claims quickly and we can all move on as most of us have since #BlackFriday is 2 years behind us and I had loaned Victory 6 figures and took no salary ever and PREPAID dozens of other magazines for our advertisements so as you'll see in the email:

Embedded Tweet

https://twitter.com/DanFleyshman/status/331562478657994752
Especially if you read the last line of 2nd email, I had been telling Eric for months to stop running ads against my will and on 6-24-10 is when multiple staff as you can see knew that I wanted ads to be stopped but they continued to run for months even after that because it's a freeroll way for them to fill up empty space and try to strongarm/guilt/coerce vendors into paying.

You're welcome to contact Card Player, Poker Pro, Canadian Poker Pro, Pokerisivut, 944 Magazine, SEVEN, Poker Player mag, Bluff Europe and the international extensions of those magazines that we PREPAID and realize that ONLY Eric is making these claims about a debt and should move on especially after seeing that email thread photo. Theres a bunch more emails but that last line and his execs reaction should be clear enough that I kept saying to STOP RUNNING ADS.

In closing, I wish you all the best, some of the forum posters made good points above about the fact that I wouldn't owe anyone personally these funds anyway since it's a company liability and furthermore unlike Full Tilt and other sites, I took ZERO salary, loaned mid 6 figures to the company and paid back EVERY account within 4 days of Black Friday so shouldn't be getting harrassed when I didn't benefit, loaned a ton to make it work and did the right thing right away.

Sincerely,

Dan Fleyshman

[kmksmkn]

Sorry Im dealing with funeral so this will be short & to the point.
I respond to these types of things to clear the air but may not be able to jump back in the forum so will just nullify Eric's claims quickly and we can all move on as most of us have since #BlackFriday is 2 years behind us and I had loaned Victory 6 figures and took no salary ever and PREPAID dozens of other magazines for our advertisements so as you'll see in the email:

Embedded Tweet

https://twitter.com/DanFleyshman/status/331562478657994752
Especially if you read the last line of 2nd email, I had been telling Eric for months to stop running ads against my will and on 6-24-10 is when multiple staff as you can see knew that I wanted ads to be stopped but they continued to run for months even after that because it's a freeroll way for them to fill up empty space and try to strongarm/guilt/coerce vendors into paying.

You're welcome to contact Card Player, Poker Pro, Canadian Poker Pro, Pokerisivut, 944 Magazine, SEVEN, Poker Player mag, Bluff Europe and the international extensions of those magazines that we PREPAID and realize that ONLY Eric is making these claims about a debt and should move on especially after seeing that email thread photo. Theres a bunch more emails but that last line and his execs reaction should be clear enough that I kept saying to STOP RUNNING ADS.

In closing, I wish you all the best, some of the forum posters made good points above about the fact that I wouldn't owe anyone personally these funds anyway since it's a company liability and furthermore unlike Full Tilt and other sites, I took ZERO salary, loaned mid 6 figures to the company and paid back EVERY account within 4 days of Black Friday so shouldn't be getting harrassed when I didn't benefit, loaned a ton to make it work and did the right thing right away.

Sincerely,

Dan Fleyshman

did u pay the maven back the money u owned him? like u said u would in the subject poker interview

[BeerAndPoker]

Sorry Im dealing with funeral so this will be short & to the point.
I respond to these types of things to clear the air but may not be able to jump back in the forum so will just nullify Eric's claims quickly and we can all move on as most of us have since #BlackFriday is 2 years behind us and I had loaned Victory 6 figures and took no salary ever and PREPAID dozens of other magazines for our advertisements so as you'll see in the email:

Embedded Tweet

https://twitter.com/DanFleyshman/status/331562478657994752
Especially if you read the last line of 2nd email, I had been telling Eric for months to stop running ads against my will and on 6-24-10 is when multiple staff as you can see knew that I wanted ads to be stopped but they continued to run for months even after that because it's a freeroll way for them to fill up empty space and try to strongarm/guilt/coerce vendors into paying.

You're welcome to contact Card Player, Poker Pro, Canadian Poker Pro, Pokerisivut, 944 Magazine, SEVEN, Poker Player mag, Bluff Europe and the international extensions of those magazines that we PREPAID and realize that ONLY Eric is making these claims about a debt and should move on especially after seeing that email thread photo. Theres a bunch more emails but that last line and his execs reaction should be clear enough that I kept saying to STOP RUNNING ADS.

In closing, I wish you all the best, some of the forum posters made good points above about the fact that I wouldn't owe anyone personally these funds anyway since it's a company liability and furthermore unlike Full Tilt and other sites, I took ZERO salary, loaned mid 6 figures to the company and paid back EVERY account within 4 days of Black Friday so shouldn't be getting harrassed when I didn't benefit, loaned a ton to make it work and did the right thing right away.

Sincerely,

Dan Fleyshman

What are we supposed to get out of that email except to know you were in contact with Bluff around 06/24/10? That email alone is incredibly vague.

According to Eric Morris he says you prepaid for February but they continued to run Victory Poker ads through July. Your email photo shows a date of June 24th when you asked him to stop running ads from what your saying.

What about the months of March, April, May, June. and July (since by 06/24 the July issue would of already been printed)?

Do you have proof you told them to stop running ads for all these months? Where are those emails? When did you first contact Eric Morris to cancel your ads?

I just can't see a company printing the kind of double page spread ads for 5 months in a row unless they felt they were going to get paid. If they were told by you to stop printing it then I could see one to two months afterward still getting printed which varies on the date of cancellation with magazine printing structures but for 5 months? That seems way too long but Eric admits that Bluff let this go on longer then it should before contacting and cutting you off.

I'm not sure what the terms of the contract were in regards to what was negotiated at the beginning as far as whether Bluff is to keep printing the ad until you say not to so I am just speculating.

[chinamaniac]

Fleyshman is GOD/ lock thread

[EricM]

Dan's reply was ridiculous and said a whole lot of nothing. I personally do not care that he never took a salary, lost millions, etc. That comment has nothing to do with him owing BLUFF money. Perhaps if he did not spend all his money on Playboy Centerfolds, RV's to blow up in silly videos and throwing excessive parties he would not have been in such a financial bind. Again, really not my problem. Let's just focus the issue at hand here. For one there was no strong arming anyone. He gives me way too much credit if he believes this to be true. Like I stated before, I have nothing to gain by exposing Dan and his lies. I know I will never be paid, nor was that my intention. My only agenda was to expose Dan and his history of lying and scamming people. His unethical business dealings goes back further than just Victory Poker. Do some research and it is pretty easy to find he does in fact have a long history of less than kosher business practices. In fact, since I wrote the first post 2 separate people have come forward and told me they have gone through similar dealing with Dan. Below are 2 private messages I received. I am hoping both parties come forward soon.

"Glad you have come out about Dan. He owed us ~$6k for adds that he was invoiced for in May of 2010 which we received the run around. The things y'all are saying match exactly what we experienced.Although he can't use the "black friday" excuse or the "shut down" business excuse on us, so he used a different equally lame excuse. It's not my business so I cant/don't want to do anything with it without bosses permission. But y'all definitely weren't the only ones.

" I give you props for calling him out. He NEVER EVER responded to me about the job he offered me with 3k a month, equity into multiple companies, and bonuses.. He knew my financial situation as I lost a 100k from Full Tilt. He fucked me good. You and Maven calling it out finally, good for you Eric."

I understand that many people might think that I am making the above up, so I am willing to provide Todd or the forum mods with the originally correspondence to ensure there is no foul play on my end. Please also know, I have permission to run the above, so I am not selling anyone out. I am however showing a history of how Dan lied and ripped people off. At this point we know there are 4 people he wronged. Five if you include 2+2. Just imagine how many other people are out there that have yet to come forward. The number of lies he has told is almost too numerous to mention. However, let's look at the obvious ones. Dan lied about the media not covering his players or site unless they were paid, he lied about all publishing companies tried to charge him for the cover (Dan actually inquired about buying the cover of BLUFF), he lied that about paying Maven back, lied about not owing any media companies money in his Subject Poker interview and in the very same interview stated he believed it was ok to short people payment as long as they received 80-95% of the amount owed. There is a pattern here and it is pretty evident what Dan's game plan had been.



Dan goes on to link an email that was sent by BLUFF on June 24, 2010 insinuating that it was proof he cancelled. He also stated he was very busy with the WSOP and would get back to BLUFF in a week. Where is the correspondence of him getting back? The email proved nothing other than BLUFF was owed money. Tell you what, for shits and giggles lets give him the benefit of the doubt that he did indeed cancel his advertising. Within the BLUFF Terms and Conditions there are 2 clauses that state if canceling out of a contract the advertiser will be responsible for paying 50% of the next months ad buy and there s no canceling 30 days before the ad due date. We know Dan paid for his Feb 2010 ad and in order to cancel out of the March issue he would have had to send me a cancellation request before the Feb issue was even distributed. I can assure you this did not happen as never in the 8+ years of owning BLUFF did we have a client cancel their second advert in a year long contract before appearing in their first issue. Just does not happen. What this means is we know Dan was on the hook for a minimum $22,500 (based on $15k for March and $7,500 for the cancellation fee). This amount is not even debatable. The reality is that Dan has been caught in many lies, owes many people money and never had any intention of paying multiple advertisers. Using the excuse that his company was liable for any debt and he does not owe anyone personally is factually correct. However, HE was the person running the company, making advertising buys and deciding who would and would not be paid. In business this is called slimy business practices, which we all know Dan has a long history of.

Eric Morris

[Deal]

Cliffs: Business goes under while allegedly owning another business 6k. The 6k credit extended was not under a signed business contract but rather some non-communicated good faith arrangement between a couple good guys. Creditor goes after the CEO years later for full 6k. Slow news day.

[superallah]

Cliffs: Business goes under while allegedly owning another business 6k. The 6k credit extended was not under a signed business contract but rather some non-communicated good faith arrangement between a couple good guys. Creditor goes after the CEO years later for full 6k. Slow news day.

[adamantium]

Dan's reply was ridiculous and said a whole lot of nothing. I personally do not care that he never took a salary, lost millions, etc. That comment has nothing to do with him owing BLUFF money. Perhaps if he did not spend all his money on Playboy Centerfolds, RV's to blow up in silly videos and throwing excessive parties he would not have been in such a financial bind. Again, really not my problem. Let's just focus the issue at hand here. For one there was no strong arming anyone. He gives me way too much credit if he believes this to be true. Like I stated before, I have nothing to gain by exposing Dan and his lies. I know I will never be paid, nor was that my intention. My only agenda was to expose Dan and his history of lying and scamming people. His unethical business dealings goes back further than just Victory Poker. Do some research and it is pretty easy to find he does in fact have a long history of less than kosher business practices. In fact, since I wrote the first post 2 separate people have come forward and told me they have gone through similar dealing with Dan. Below are 2 private messages I received. I am hoping both parties come forward soon.

"Glad you have come out about Dan. He owed us ~$6k for adds that he was invoiced for in May of 2010 which we received the run around. The things y'all are saying match exactly what we experienced.Although he can't use the "black friday" excuse or the "shut down" business excuse on us, so he used a different equally lame excuse. It's not my business so I cant/don't want to do anything with it without bosses permission. But y'all definitely weren't the only ones.

" I give you props for calling him out. He NEVER EVER responded to me about the job he offered me with 3k a month, equity into multiple companies, and bonuses.. He knew my financial situation as I lost a 100k from Full Tilt. He fucked me good. You and Maven calling it out finally, good for you Eric."

I understand that many people might think that I am making the above up, so I am willing to provide Todd or the forum mods with the originally correspondence to ensure there is no foul play on my end. Please also know, I have permission to run the above, so I am not selling anyone out. I am however showing a history of how Dan lied and ripped people off. At this point we know there are 4 people he wronged. Five if you include 2+2. Just imagine how many other people are out there that have yet to come forward. The number of lies he has told is almost too numerous to mention. However, let's look at the obvious ones. Dan lied about the media not covering his players or site unless they were paid, he lied about all publishing companies tried to charge him for the cover (Dan actually inquired about buying the cover of BLUFF), he lied that about paying Maven back, lied about not owing any media companies money in his Subject Poker interview and in the very same interview stated he believed it was ok to short people payment as long as they received 80-95% of the amount owed. There is a pattern here and it is pretty evident what Dan's game plan had been.



Dan goes on to link an email that was sent by BLUFF on June 24, 2010 insinuating that it was proof he cancelled. He also stated he was very busy with the WSOP and would get back to BLUFF in a week. Where is the correspondence of him getting back? The email proved nothing other than BLUFF was owed money. Tell you what, for shits and giggles lets give him the benefit of the doubt that he did indeed cancel his advertising. Within the BLUFF Terms and Conditions there are 2 clauses that state if canceling out of a contract the advertiser will be responsible for paying 50% of the next months ad buy and there s no canceling 30 days before the ad due date. We know Dan paid for his Feb 2010 ad and in order to cancel out of the March issue he would have had to send me a cancellation request before the Feb issue was even distributed. I can assure you this did not happen as never in the 8+ years of owning BLUFF did we have a client cancel their second advert in a year long contract before appearing in their first issue. Just does not happen. What this means is we know Dan was on the hook for a minimum $22,500 (based on $15k for March and $7,500 for the cancellation fee). This amount is not even debatable. The reality is that Dan has been caught in many lies, owes many people money and never had any intention of paying multiple advertisers. Using the excuse that his company was liable for any debt and he does not owe anyone personally is factually correct. However, HE was the person running the company, making advertising buys and deciding who would and would not be paid. In business this is called slimy business practices, which we all know Dan has a long history of.

Eric Morris

How fucking stupid are you?
He does not owe you jack shit, at best Victory Poker might owe you money you fucking gimp.

[snake_in_the_ass]

Fleyshman is GOD/ lock thread

I disagree. He claims he was the youngest CEO of a publicly traded company yet he fails to mention that he ran the company into the ground. Dan is good at one thing and that is running businesses into the ground. Hey CMONEY, if you want your business to fail...put this guy in the captains chair.

[v12cl]

Sorry Im dealing with funeral so this will be short & to the point.
I respond to these types of things to clear the air but may not be able to jump back in the forum so will just nullify Eric's claims quickly and we can all move on as most of us have since #BlackFriday is 2 years behind us and I had loaned Victory 6 figures and took no salary ever and PREPAID dozens of other magazines for our advertisements so as you'll see in the email:

Embedded Tweet

https://twitter.com/DanFleyshman/status/331562478657994752
Especially if you read the last line of 2nd email, I had been telling Eric for months to stop running ads against my will and on 6-24-10 is when multiple staff as you can see knew that I wanted ads to be stopped but they continued to run for months even after that because it's a freeroll way for them to fill up empty space and try to strongarm/guilt/coerce vendors into paying.

You're welcome to contact Card Player, Poker Pro, Canadian Poker Pro, Pokerisivut, 944 Magazine, SEVEN, Poker Player mag, Bluff Europe and the international extensions of those magazines that we PREPAID and realize that ONLY Eric is making these claims about a debt and should move on especially after seeing that email thread photo. Theres a bunch more emails but that last line and his execs reaction should be clear enough that I kept saying to STOP RUNNING ADS.

In closing, I wish you all the best, some of the forum posters made good points above about the fact that I wouldn't owe anyone personally these funds anyway since it's a company liability and furthermore unlike Full Tilt and other sites, I took ZERO salary, loaned mid 6 figures to the company and paid back EVERY account within 4 days of Black Friday so shouldn't be getting harrassed when I didn't benefit, loaned a ton to make it work and did the right thing right away.

Sincerely,

Dan Fleyshman

Anyone else think it is funny that he starts with this? Generate sympathy, and leaves him an out for not replying if things don't go his way.

While the enforceability of these debts may be suspect, the fact is, there is something equally scummy with freerolling people/companies, and then hiding behind an LLC when it all comes crashing down.

Bottom line is, I'm guessing towards the end Dan made agreements he knew his company likely couldn't hold up, BLUFF continued to run ads they knew they likely wouldn't get paid for, and Maven continued to rep. a site he knew he wouldn't be paid for.

Why?

Greed.

[DanFleyshman]

Quoted from Eric's first thread: "I also stated, I would publicly apologize if I was wrong. The only correspondence he sent was from Sep 3, 2010. If I were the CEO of any company and wanted to cancel an advertising contract, you better believe I would have documentation to avoid any legal problems."

Again, the best lines from the June 24 emails are his execs saying they didn't realize the conversations Id been having with Eric and the last line where I said I thought this was resolved months ago....

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https://twitter.com/DanFleyshman/status/331562478657994752

But they continued to run ads and still played dumb in Sep. 3rd email as they were racking up unapproved invoices even though all these people were CC'd on emails to STOP running ads.

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Quoted from Eric's Twitter: " @DanFleyshman @TheMavenVT @TheRealAsianSpa . Thx 4 this. Your ads ran may - sep. you paid for 1 advert. Sep does not exempt for other months"

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This is just becoming silly and time consuming. Anybody with common sense can see that I simply prepaid for the ad I wanted at launch of company and continuously asked Eric to stop running ads after that via text/email/etc. You can see in his above postings how confused he was, saying the ads ran May - September when it was in February and that only correspondence from me was in September when theres some in June saying I thought this was resolved months ago, and blah, blah, blah.

Eric, please just focus on Ultimate Poker, I wish you all the best, I'm working outside the poker world and focusing on my charity but I'm ecstatic that Ultimate Poker launched successfully and hope that you'll put your energy into that instead of grasping at straws trying with me when Churchill Downs settled all of Bluffs bad debt long ago anyway. You have alot to look forward to in the poker industry and beyond and please leave me alone.

Sincerely,

Dan

[cmoney]

Dan's reply was ridiculous and said a whole lot of nothing. I personally do not care that he never took a salary, lost millions, etc. That comment has nothing to do with him owing BLUFF money. Perhaps if he did not spend all his money on Playboy Centerfolds, RV's to blow up in silly videos and throwing excessive parties he would not have been in such a financial bind. Again, really not my problem. Let's just focus the issue at hand here. For one there was no strong arming anyone. He gives me way too much credit if he believes this to be true. Like I stated before, I have nothing to gain by exposing Dan and his lies. I know I will never be paid, nor was that my intention. My only agenda was to expose Dan and his history of lying and scamming people. His unethical business dealings goes back further than just Victory Poker. Do some research and it is pretty easy to find he does in fact have a long history of less than kosher business practices. In fact, since I wrote the first post 2 separate people have come forward and told me they have gone through similar dealing with Dan. Below are 2 private messages I received. I am hoping both parties come forward soon.

"Glad you have come out about Dan. He owed us ~$6k for adds that he was invoiced for in May of 2010 which we received the run around. The things y'all are saying match exactly what we experienced.Although he can't use the "black friday" excuse or the "shut down" business excuse on us, so he used a different equally lame excuse. It's not my business so I cant/don't want to do anything with it without bosses permission. But y'all definitely weren't the only ones.

" I give you props for calling him out. He NEVER EVER responded to me about the job he offered me with 3k a month, equity into multiple companies, and bonuses.. He knew my financial situation as I lost a 100k from Full Tilt. He fucked me good. You and Maven calling it out finally, good for you Eric."

I understand that many people might think that I am making the above up, so I am willing to provide Todd or the forum mods with the originally correspondence to ensure there is no foul play on my end. Please also know, I have permission to run the above, so I am not selling anyone out. I am however showing a history of how Dan lied and ripped people off. At this point we know there are 4 people he wronged. Five if you include 2+2. Just imagine how many other people are out there that have yet to come forward. The number of lies he has told is almost too numerous to mention. However, let's look at the obvious ones. Dan lied about the media not covering his players or site unless they were paid, he lied about all publishing companies tried to charge him for the cover (Dan actually inquired about buying the cover of BLUFF), he lied that about paying Maven back, lied about not owing any media companies money in his Subject Poker interview and in the very same interview stated he believed it was ok to short people payment as long as they received 80-95% of the amount owed. There is a pattern here and it is pretty evident what Dan's game plan had been.



Dan goes on to link an email that was sent by BLUFF on June 24, 2010 insinuating that it was proof he cancelled. He also stated he was very busy with the WSOP and would get back to BLUFF in a week. Where is the correspondence of him getting back? The email proved nothing other than BLUFF was owed money. Tell you what, for shits and giggles lets give him the benefit of the doubt that he did indeed cancel his advertising. Within the BLUFF Terms and Conditions there are 2 clauses that state if canceling out of a contract the advertiser will be responsible for paying 50% of the next months ad buy and there s no canceling 30 days before the ad due date. We know Dan paid for his Feb 2010 ad and in order to cancel out of the March issue he would have had to send me a cancellation request before the Feb issue was even distributed. I can assure you this did not happen as never in the 8+ years of owning BLUFF did we have a client cancel their second advert in a year long contract before appearing in their first issue. Just does not happen. What this means is we know Dan was on the hook for a minimum $22,500 (based on $15k for March and $7,500 for the cancellation fee). This amount is not even debatable. The reality is that Dan has been caught in many lies, owes many people money and never had any intention of paying multiple advertisers. Using the excuse that his company was liable for any debt and he does not owe anyone personally is factually correct. However, HE was the person running the company, making advertising buys and deciding who would and would not be paid. In business this is called slimy business practices, which we all know Dan has a long history of.

Eric Morris

How fucking stupid are you?
He does not owe you jack shit, at best Victory Poker might owe you money you fucking gimp.

If this is really about a company debt and not a personal debt this is the stupiest "twitter war" ever

[EricM]

Dan,

save your condescending response for someone who I am sure you will lie and rip off again. As I have stated multiple times, this post was never about money, nor was I ever foolish enough to believe you would pay me or any of the other people you owed money to. Your responses answer no questions and pretty much just brushed off any facts that have been presented. It's like talking to a 5 year old who does not have the brain capacity to process anything other then what is on the very surface.

Bottom line is you did not pay for your ads that appeared in BLUFF, you lied to multiple people, you have no integrity or business ethics and have an excuse for any/all of your cons. I am not reaching for anything other than the truth. For the record, your ads stopped running in July, not Sep as I had thought. So there was no more racking up invoices. We stopped inserting your ad when we realized we had been duped by you.

You still have not answered the question as to when you cancelled your advertising. We both know you signed a one year contract, so when did you cancel. Was it Feb, March, April, May or June? Please just answer the question? I don't think anyone who has dealt with you believes a word you say, including many of the pros that gave you money to be part of Victory. Please just show me a text, email etc when you first cancelled? This would solve the silly problem. The only emails you have show are ones that BLUFF sent you. Remember, just because you said you cancelled does not mean you actually are telling the truth.

Let's face it you have zero credibility in the business world and have ruined every business that your hands have touched. It's not a coincidence it happened again with Victory. In essence you are a small time Bernie Madoff who just seems to skate by while using other peoples money to live your lavish lifestyle. Any person that has come in contact with you has lost money and you have taken the poker world for millions, FACT! Please stop playing the victim here and realize no one is buying your lies. If you can live with yourself after all the money you have, in essence, stolen from people, god bless you. I just hope you are never put in a position to handle other people money again. We all know how that turns out.

Dan, I don't want your soiled money. In fact, I really want nothing to do with you as you have proved a long time ago what kind of person you are. As stated previously, my only agenda is to expose who you really are, a liar, thief, con and fraud and hope no one else falls for your games. I personally know you are at the top of may peoples shit list and wont be surprised when karma comes and bites you in the ass.