and to make u happy jason, full tilts jesus lindgren lederer furst ivey gordon they all frikkiin thieves and they should be in jail takin it w/o vaseline....a few of them would like it...totally betrayed the poker worlds trust for $$ they didnt even need. big dave webb is gonna get a kick in the ass soon. after hearing yr story a rap on the knuckles will suffice. you got any ideas how to get my deuce?