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    Quote Originally Posted by garrett View Post
    If anyone wants Chael Sonnen, I will take the bet on 2 conditions, Druff allows it, and will escrow the bet himself.

    Up to $50 (PayPal only)
    Im willing to put $6 on Chael, against yr 50.


    Booked if Druff approves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NotAPedophile View Post

    Silva had a 3.5 inch reach advantage over Sonnen. Jones has a 10.5 inch reach advantage.

    I've bought the large majority of UFC shows the past few years, but I might skip this one.
    You can watch them for free on your computor.
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    I'd say good luck in the freeroll but I'm pretty sure you'll go on a bender to self-sabotage yourself & miss it completely or use it as the excuse of why you didn't cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuntmissioner View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by garrett View Post
    If anyone wants Chael Sonnen, I will take the bet on 2 conditions, Druff allows it, and will escrow the bet himself.

    Up to $50 (PayPal only)
    Im willing to put $6 on Chael, against yr 50.


    Booked if Druff approves.
    Negative, that was not the terms of the deal. No thanks. Mine was plain and simple.

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    What are your terms, garrett? What odds are you proposing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandwich View Post
    What are your terms, garrett? What odds are you proposing?
    There were no odds. It was if you think Chael is going to win put your money on it. If not, don't. Don't hate me for trying.

    Seems many here think Chael will win I disagree, figured someone might want to bet on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrett View Post

    There were no odds. It was if you think Chael is going to win put your money on it. If not, don't. Don't hate me for trying.

    Seems many here think Chael will win I disagree, figured someone might want to bet on it.
    LOL what? I saw 1-in-5 and 1-in-12 mentioned in this thread.
    No odds? With that bullshit, you're obviously just trolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrett View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sandwich View Post
    What are your terms, garrett? What odds are you proposing?
    There were no odds. It was if you think Chael is going to win put your money on it. If not, don't. Don't hate me for trying.

    Seems many here think Chael will win I disagree, figured someone might want to bet on it.

    You really are out of your depths here and when you inevitably start a thread about how someone victimized you, I hope exactly no one is unable to take time out of their lives to mock you ferociously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandwich View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by garrett View Post

    There were no odds. It was if you think Chael is going to win put your money on it. If not, don't. Don't hate me for trying.

    Seems many here think Chael will win I disagree, figured someone might want to bet on it.
    LOL what? I saw 1-in-5 and 1-in-12 mentioned in this thread.
    No odds? With that bullshit, you're obviously just trolling.
    lol

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    Ok, since garrett's offer is not going anywhere, here is my offer...

    If anyone wants Chael Sonnen, I will take the bet on the following conditions (if Druff allows escrow):

    My $50 paypal vs. your $50 paypal, to be escrowed with Druff within 24 hours of accepting the bet.

    You win the bet if: Chael Sonnen wins the fight OR loses the fight by decision (split or unanimous).

    I win the bet if: Jon Jones wins by any way other than judges' decision (for example, submission, TKO or stoppage).

    (first come, first served -- I'm only interested in betting $50 total on this fight)

    Any takers? Let's do this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandwich View Post
    Ok, since garrett's offer is not going anywhere, here is my offer...

    If anyone wants Chael Sonnen, I will take the bet on the following conditions (if Druff allows escrow):

    My $50 paypal vs. your $50 paypal, to be escrowed with Druff within 24 hours of accepting the bet.

    You win the bet if: Chael Sonnen wins the fight OR loses the fight by decision (split or unanimous).

    I win the bet if: Jon Jones wins by any way other than judges' decision (for example, submission, TKO or stoppage).

    (first come, first served -- I'm only interested in betting $50 total on this fight)

    Any takers? Let's do this!
    3 of Jones' 18 fights have gone to decision. Good effort, I'd still take 5 to 1 outright though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotAPedophile View Post

    3 of Jones' 18 fights have gone to decision. Good effort, I'd still take 5 to 1 outright though.
    Yes, but how many of Sonnen's has? And wasn't one of Jones's the Rashad Evans fight? I dunno, I'm not going to argue against my own bet. Thinking about the 5 to 1 outright. I don't want to put too much at risk and winning $10 doesn't seem worth all the hassle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrett View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sandwich View Post
    What are your terms, garrett? What odds are you proposing?
    There were no odds. It was if you think Chael is going to win put your money on it. If not, don't. Don't hate me for trying.

    Seems many here think Chael will win I disagree, figured someone might want to bet on it.
    Why would anyone be stupid enough to bet with you when they can get 5-1 odds....

    Also people are not saying Chael is the fav they are implying the odds are profitable to make it worth betting even if he loses most of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrett View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuntmissioner View Post

    Im willing to put $6 on Chael, against yr 50.


    Booked if Druff approves.
    Negative, that was not the terms of the deal. No thanks. Mine was plain and simple.
    You're turning down free money, garrett. Plain and simple, I was doing you a favor.

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    Countdown to UFC 159


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    Quote Originally Posted by BetCheckBet View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NotAPedophile View Post

    "When ground fighting, shorter fighters are harder to take down or tackle compared to taller foes because they're nearer to their center of gravity."

    Also:

    "Although a shorter arm reach is a disadvantage when throwing a strike on long ranged outside fighting, it can be an advantage during closed ranged in-fighting. A shorter arm can facilitate greater power and leverage (especially throwing short hooks and short uppercuts) at this range than a longer arm can."


    This may sound preposterous, but when in close I think the excessive reach could be detrimental for Jones.

    Their wrestling pedigrees are also are very close

    Jones:

    Amateur wrestling
    National Junior College Athletic Association
    NJCAA Junior Collegiate Championship out of Iowa Central Community College (2006)[85]
    NJCAA All-American out of Iowa Central Community College (2006)[86]
    NHSCA Senior All-American (2005)[87]
    New York State Public High School Athletic Association
    NYSPHSAA Division I State Championship out of Union-Endicott High School (2005)[88]
    USA Wrestling
    Northeast Junior Greco-Roman Regional Championship (2004)[89]

    Chael:

    Amateur wrestling
    National Collegiate Athletic Association
    NCAA Division I All-American out of University of Oregon (1998)[61][67]
    NCAA Division I 190 lb – 8th place out of University of Oregon (1998)[68]
    Pac-10 Conference 197 lb – 2nd place out of University of Oregon (1999)[69]
    Pac-10 Conference 197 lb – 2nd place out of University of Oregon (2001)[70]
    University National Greco-Roman Championships
    187.25 1b -3rd place out of University of Oregon (1997)[71]
    187.25 lb -2nd place out of University of Oregon (1998)[72]
    187.25 lb -1st place out of University of Oregon (1999)[73]
    187.25 lb -1st place out of University of Oregon (2000)[74]
    Awarded "Most Outstanding Wrestler" of 2000 tournament
    World University Greco-Roman Championships
    187.25 lb – 2nd place (2000)[75]
    Senior National Greco-Roman Championships
    187.25 lb -4th place (2000)[76]
    185 lb -4th place (2002)[77]
    2000 US Greco-Roman Olympic Team Trials
    187.25 lb West Regional Champion [78]
    187.25 lb -3rd place [79]
    US Greco-Roman World Team Trials
    211.75 lb -4th place (2002) [80]
    Dave Schultz Memorial International Greco-Roman
    187.25 lbs -1st place (2000)[81]
    213.75 lbs -1st place (2001)[82][83]
    University National Freestyle Championships
    187.25 lb -5th place out of University of Oregon (1998)[84]
    187.25 lb -3rd place out of University of Oregon (1999)[85]
    187.25 lb -2nd place out of University of Oregon (2000)[86]
    Championship Belt Series Winner, University Level
    (2000)[87]
    Maybe just me but his wrestling background doesn't look much more impressive than Rashad or Bader and we saw what they did....
    Rashad's wresting background:

    Amateur wrestling
    Niagara Wheatfield High School
    4th place New York State High School Wrestling Championships 145 lbs 1997, 171 lbs 1998
    National Junior College Athletic Association
    Junior College National Champion 165 1b – out of Niagara County Community College (2000)[56]

    Bader was a little closer, but still not quite as decorated

    National Collegiate Athletic Association
    NCAA Division I All-American out of Arizona State University (2004), (2006)[18]
    NCAA Division I 197 lb - 4th place out of Arizona State University (2004)[19]
    NCAA Division I 197 lb - 7th place out of Arizona State University (2006)[20]
    Pac-10 Conference Championship out of Arizona State University (2003), (2004), (2006)[21]

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    So, Bovada fucking sucks. Using http://bestfightodds.com/ I found Chael at +700 on http://www.sportbet.com/lines/fighting_ufc.

    7 to 1, still a no go?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotAPedophile View Post
    So, Bovada fucking sucks. Using http://bestfightodds.com/ I found Chael at +700 on http://www.sportbet.com/lines/fighting_ufc.

    7 to 1, still a no go?
    I mean if your willing to risk something considering it like a lottery ticket then I say go for it. I'd obviously never lay the heavy chalk on Jones here just to win a little but unless some miracle happens where he gets caught then he's not losing to Chael who is moving up in weight class to fight Jones who could legitimately fight at heavyweight if he wanted to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandwich View Post
    Ok, since garrett's offer is not going anywhere, here is my offer...

    If anyone wants Chael Sonnen, I will take the bet on the following conditions (if Druff allows escrow):

    My $50 paypal vs. your $50 paypal, to be escrowed with Druff within 24 hours of accepting the bet.

    You win the bet if: Chael Sonnen wins the fight OR loses the fight by decision (split or unanimous).

    I win the bet if: Jon Jones wins by any way other than judges' decision (for example, submission, TKO or stoppage).

    (first come, first served -- I'm only interested in betting $50 total on this fight)

    Any takers? Let's do this!
    Last chance, guys... This offer will expire at 11:59pm PDT today. (gonna use the $50 for something else if no action here).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandwich View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sandwich View Post
    Ok, since garrett's offer is not going anywhere, here is my offer...

    If anyone wants Chael Sonnen, I will take the bet on the following conditions (if Druff allows escrow):

    My $50 paypal vs. your $50 paypal, to be escrowed with Druff within 24 hours of accepting the bet.

    You win the bet if: Chael Sonnen wins the fight OR loses the fight by decision (split or unanimous).

    I win the bet if: Jon Jones wins by any way other than judges' decision (for example, submission, TKO or stoppage).

    (first come, first served -- I'm only interested in betting $50 total on this fight)

    Any takers? Let's do this!
    Last chance, guys... This offer will expire at 11:59pm PDT today. (gonna use the $50 for something else if no action here).
    lmfao, gg playa

    This was marvelous. I love how you touche'd in their and tried to spike the deal. Very well played.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandwich View Post

    Last chance, guys... This offer will expire at 11:59pm PDT today. (gonna use the $50 for something else if no action here).

    Pretty sure you're not getting action, if this squashes it, my bad.

    Just that the fight goes to round 4 is +175 - just going to round 5 is +248.

    You can find tons of props on Jones vs Sonnen on http://bestfightodds.com/, just expand the props arrow on the right.

    Sonnen wins by TKO/KO +2525
    Any other result -7675

    Jesus

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