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    The standard is 2 week turnaround to fund new accounts. At least it was according to the forums during the blood bath. Ties into the need to have non-chargeback deposit methods etc.
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    Anyone else getting this when they go to mtgox?

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    • Last price:$154.08640
    • High:$166.43438
    • Low:$140.96635
    • Volume:220305 BTC
    • Weighted Avg:$152.69107

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly View Post
    • Last price:$154.08640
    • High:$166.43438
    • Low:$140.96635
    • Volume:220305 BTC
    • Weighted Avg:$152.69107

    This still amazes me.

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    looks like Canadians will have to pay tax on there bit coin's and purchases etc. at least they recognize its value and may increase the value in them?

    Bonnie Allan cbc reporter: wrote

    Just in time for tax season, the Canada Revenue Agency says the users of Bitcoins will have to pay tax on transactions in the upstart digital currency.

    BitCoins are a fringe online currency that entered the mainstream this year after speculators rushed in and caused their value to more than quadruple in value. Originally designed as a virtual currency alternative to conventional money, the cash value of a BitCoin jumped from under $50 US to above $250 and back earlier this month, as speculators flooded the market after awareness of them grew.

    Price swings like that mean some BitCoin buyers and sellers likely made or lost a lot of money, which raises the question of how that will be handled come tax time.

    The issue is not just academic. Saskatoon realtor Paul Chavady said he has listed a house priced in BitCoins, and has found clients willing to pay his fees in the electronic currency.

    "When you sell [the BitCoins], they will deposit that in your account," said Chavady. "As soon as it turns into Canadian dollars, it's back in the eyes of the CRA and everybody else. If you get a big deposit of $10,000, or $100,000, [CRA is] going to say, 'Hey, where did that come from?'"

    Indeed, the tax man has already thought of that.

    The CRA told the CBC there are two separate tax rules that apply to the electronic currency, depending on whether they are used as money to buy things or if they were merely bought and sold for speculative purposes.

    "Barter transaction rules apply where BitCoins are used to purchase goods or services," Canada Revenue Agency spokesman Philippe Brideau said in an email.

    Barter is the exchange of one good for another good without the use of cash, such as when a farmer who grows vegetables trades with another who raises chickens. Many Canadians don't realize such exchanges are taxable, but they are.

    Paragraph 3 of the CRA's Interpretation Bulletin IT-490 clearly states that in a barter transaction between arm’s-length persons, "we generally consider that the value of whatever is received is at least equal to the value of whatever is given up."

    In the above example, that means whatever you've received in exchange for your $1 worth of vegetables must be documented as a taxable gain of at least $1 somewhere.

    Investing gains
    When it comes to trading BitCoins for profit, the tax man says there are tax implications there, too.

    "When BitCoins are bought or sold like a commodity, any resulting gains or losses could be income or capital for the taxpayer depending on the specific facts," ruled the CRA.

    That section is covered in paragraphs nine through 32 of the CRA's section IT-479R, Transactions in Securities, "which provide general comments for purposes of determining whether transactions are income or capital in nature."

    Regina currency trader Jeff Cliff already had that figured out. He's been trading BitCoins for three years and said he claims them on his taxes by converting it to the Canadian dollar equivalent. But, Cliff said, it is an honour system.

    "It's fairly anonymous system," he said. "I'm not so much into the privacy side of it, so that's why I claim it."

    Some advocates of the electronic currency, which only exists as unique codes in complex crytpographic algorithms, have said one of its advantages is that it can be traded and moved across national boundaries without governments being aware.

    But as the CRA statement shows, governments are starting to pay attention.
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    Straightforward capital gain, but of course if they want it to be taxable you can net off any losses across the year.
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    SilkRoads on the verge of hyperdeflationary collapse:
    http://au.businessinsider.com/silkro...flation-2013-5
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    Quote Originally Posted by PLOL View Post
    SilkRoads on the verge of hyperdeflationary collapse:
    http://au.businessinsider.com/silkro...flation-2013-5
    That makes complete sense but they are probably happy the last 3 weeks or so the coin has settled down from all it's fluctuating .

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    Today was pretty sick. I'm pretty much at break even right now because I walked in on the collapse thinking it was the middle. Nope, it was the bottom. Will probably make most of it back eventually, but it's no big deal. It was gamble money anyway.

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    Wow - even Khan Academy is getting on bitcoins.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PLOL View Post
    SilkRoads on the verge of hyperdeflationary collapse:
    http://au.businessinsider.com/silkro...flation-2013-5
    That makes complete sense but they are probably happy the last 3 weeks or so the coin has settled down from all it's fluctuating .

    You would think a place like that could have prices pegged to USD or EU so no matter what the rate of a bitcoin was at that particular hour, that when you hit purchase that you would get a price that reflected a hard currency amount. I guess when the fluctuations are in the $50 range in a day it would still make it crazy, but I still see bitcoin as a wager and not a currency.

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    Here we go. Dwolla is is deep shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker View Post
    Here we go. Dwolla is is deep shit.

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    why homeland security and not the doj?? homeland security was formed to fight terrorists attacks, etc. There must be something more to this story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sitting Out View Post
    why homeland security and not the doj?? homeland security was formed to fight terrorists attacks, etc. There must be something more to this story.
    You see any of the products sold on the bitcoin market? Several could be used for terrorist activity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sitting Out View Post
    why homeland security and not the doj?? homeland security was formed to fight terrorists attacks, etc. There must be something more to this story.
    You see any of the products sold on the bitcoin market? Several could be used for terrorist activity.
    Every were sells terrorist tools.

    Next stop..... Full blown communist for USA, enjoy it's a peach!

    Legalize drugs and mind numing activities (vidio games) then they lock the doors and build some walls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron Von Strucker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker View Post

    You see any of the products sold on the bitcoin market? Several could be used for terrorist activity.
    Every were sells terrorist tools.

    Next stop..... Full blown communist for USA, enjoy it's a peach!

    Legalize drugs and mind numing activities (vidio games) then they lock the doors and build some walls.
    Of course and lots of stuff people would never have thought to be terrorist items are being used that way.

    While they are cracking down more on terrorist activity you can bet the DOJ and Homeland Security are in talks with one another on this stuff. If the DOJ would like to bring bitcoins down but doesn't have a strong enough case or time to do it and Homeland Security can do things now then they will be happy for them to go for it.

    The value of the coins in existence in excess of $1 billion and organizations are well aware of how a lot of the market is being used for drugs, firearms, sports betting, and other things they would determine as malicious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_PHA View Post
    This "currency" is a fucking monumental scam. Think about how stupid this is. Some guy from Japan invented this "currency" in 2009 and its based on, well, nothing. It's backed by no government and no assets.

    Actually, you know what its based on? Monumental fuck ups who can't hold a normal job, or fucking schemers, scammers and druggers. A guy like Jasep would be a perfect ambassador for this scam. Same with the cash gifting cab driver.

    Mining bitcoins? Are you fucking serious? The guy who invented this "currency" has to be laughing his fucking ass as suckers like Micon keep feeding him money.

    Going to be hilarious when the Feds drop an atom bomb on shitcoins. You know its on their radar. They move slow, but when they act, it's over. Look at those payment processors for online poker. They are in jail. When you launder USD$, you go away. Shitcoins is a front for gambling, porn and drugs. You really think the Feds are going to ignore that?
    Notice the date of my warning. If you listened to me, you did not lose a lot of money.

    Do not doubt me. Ever.

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