Um, i'm along with zdonk that you are really reading a ton into what I had written and no where did I say that my grandfather didn't have a degree, he had one in journalism from UofW, although not sure of if that story happened before or after his schooling. And for the entrepreneurial / education argument, i'm right there with you because just as a purely subjective view, I have to learn continually and in fact take courses to this day to keep up with what is needed to do what I do. So again, I really think you see my alternate take (which it was) as a personal attack, and it's not. I have worked for both types though and know as much about running shit as I do suffering under uneducated bosses.