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    Quote Originally Posted by The_PHA View Post
    They are advertised as healthy but in reality a handful is like 200 calories. STAY AWAY
    Having 200 calories in a serving and being healthy are hardly mutually exclusive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Corrigan View Post
    Yeah weight training while dieting is definitely the way to go. Not only for health benefits, but for how you actually look, as it promotes the weight you lose to be primarily fat. Getting adequate protein while doing this is also beneficial (not sure how much, but there have been studies on this)
    I am getting plenty of protein here.

    BTW, I am 6'2", not 6'4".

    My stomach has gotten big during this weight gain. My first goal is for that to fall off, then I will worry about the other stuff.

    While this isn't a good example, Ken Scalir actually lost 55 pounds in 2007 due to his obsession with Colleen. He was literally spending all of his money on her, and barely eating. He also became obsessed with losing weight because Colleen told him at one point that he was fat. He went from 230 to 175, and the only exercise he did was a lot of walking.

    I am not looking to model my life after Ken Scalir, but I did notice that the change in his appearance was mainly a major reduction in the size of his stomach.
    6'2 230 changes the amount of calories by a tiny bit, but not much.

    No working out hardly - 2600
    Minimal 1-3 days a week - 2975
    Average 3-5 days a week - 3450

    For weight loss you need to be -500 off those numbers depending on your activity level. You might be able to push it to -750.

    NOT 1000. NOT 1600 fucking calories like a 105lb woman like dipshit is telling you.

    Your body could get into state where you are nutrition deficient and your body starts cannibalizing muscle. This is one of the worst possible things for losing fat, as building/retaining muscle mass is the best way to destroy fat. You also would be more prone to binge eating as the difference between what you are eating now, and such a drastic decrease in calories would be so extreme.

    As your weight drops your maintenance calories will slowly decrease as well. You want to ease into what you are doing and not go crazy starting out because it is doomed for failure for many reasons. If you start losing weight you can start losing calories, but to slash them to levels that your body has probably never seen..EVER....right out of the gate is about the dumbest thing you could do.

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    lets get serious druff

    what are you going to do once you reach your goal weight?

    you will end up skinny fat

    this is where most dieters fail, as they then resort to their old habits

    this is what i eat everyday, admittingly i work out 3-4 days a week , but i do no cardio, which i should, but i do take my dogs for a walk everyday

    meal 1

    soy and linseed cereal with light milk
    2 slices of soy and linseed bread dipped in extra virgin oil
    handful of almonds or walnuts
    banana
    protein shake or yogurt


    meal 2

    either red meat/chicken/fish
    pasta with red sauce and parmeson cheese
    2 slices of soy and linseed bread dipped in extra virgin oil
    maybe some salad


    meal 3

    either red meat/chicken/fish
    pasta with red sauce and parmeson cheese ( there are a lot of tasty and healthy pasta dishes)
    2 slices of soy and linseed bread dipped in extra virgin oil
    maybe some salad


    meal 4


    chicken
    2 slices of soy and linseed bread dipped in extra virgin oil
    maybe some salad


    meal 5

    protein shake/yogurt
    banana


    3 or 4 times a week i will eat a double cheeseburger/pizza



    this is how i always eat....i eat a lot

    im trying to put on lean muscle atm, but if i wanted to lose weight, i either drop the olive oil, or decrease portion sizes and at the same time increase my vegie intake

    i dont deprive myself of anything, but if i pig out 2 days in a row, i just eat less calorie dense foods for a couple of days

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_PHA View Post

    Stay away from the sides at dinner. That is what does people in, such as potatoes, corn, bread, etc.... People eat this out of control.
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    I went out earlier for a few errands and I hit a huggggge pothole and by the time I was done I worked up a huge appetite because I skipped breakfast.

    My hands were rather greasy and I decided it would be best to wash my hands so I stopped at the nearest place which was a mcdonalds.

    I went up to the register and ordered a classic grilled chicken sandwich (hold the mayo/add BBQ) and a diet coke and the girl asked me if I wanted to add fries to this order and then I thought of The_PHA's post in this thread and I politely declined.


    PHA= GOD

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    Quote Originally Posted by fluffer View Post
    lets get serious druff

    what are you going to do once you reach your goal weight?

    you will end up skinny fat

    this is where most dieters fail, as they then resort to their old habits

    this is what i eat everyday, admittingly i work out 3-4 days a week , but i do no cardio, which i should, but i do take my dogs for a walk everyday

    meal 1

    soy and linseed cereal with light milk
    2 slices of soy and linseed bread dipped in extra virgin oil
    handful of almonds or walnuts
    banana
    protein shake or yogurt


    meal 2

    either red meat/chicken/fish
    pasta with red sauce and parmeson cheese
    2 slices of soy and linseed bread dipped in extra virgin oil
    maybe some salad


    meal 3

    either red meat/chicken/fish
    pasta with red sauce and parmeson cheese ( there are a lot of tasty and healthy pasta dishes)
    2 slices of soy and linseed bread dipped in extra virgin oil
    maybe some salad


    meal 4


    chicken
    2 slices of soy and linseed bread dipped in extra virgin oil
    maybe some salad


    meal 5

    protein shake/yogurt
    banana


    3 or 4 times a week i will eat a double cheeseburger/pizza



    this is how i always eat....i eat a lot

    im trying to put on lean muscle atm, but if i wanted to lose weight, i either drop the olive oil, or decrease portion sizes and at the same time increase my vegie intake

    i dont deprive myself of anything, but if i pig out 2 days in a row, i just eat less calorie dense foods for a couple of days
    Dont forget all the extra protein you get sucking cock

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The_PHA View Post

    Stay away from the sides at dinner. That is what does people in, such as potatoes, corn, bread, etc.... People eat this out of control.
    .
    I went out earlier for a few errands and I hit a huggggge pothole and by the time I was done I worked up a huge appetite because I skipped breakfast.

    My hands were rather greasy and I decided it would be best to wash my hands so I stopped at the nearest place which was a mcdonalds.

    I went up to the register and ordered a classic grilled chicken sandwich (hold the mayo/add BBQ) and a diet coke and the girl asked me if I wanted to add fries to this order and then I thought of The_PHA's post in this thread and I politely declined.


    PHA= GOD
    Yep. The Mayo was 100 calories. The fries were over 400 calories. So you banked 500 calories right there. Now think about the loaded baked potato. That has more calories than the steak. Get the potato dry and load it up with salt, pepper and a very small slice of butter. You just saved 400 calories right there.

    It's not about starving yourself, just make better decisions.

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    Another thing. Tomato Basil Soup. Mike Tyson has credited this for losing 100 lbs.

    A can is like 200 calories. Sprinkle it with salt and pepper, and toss is 5 crackers, you are at 300 calories you are basically full for like 3 hours.

    If you are truly serious about losing weight, go to your soup aisle at your grocery store, and Chunky has like 5 shelves of everything you can imagine for under 300 calories. The Vegetable Beef is top shelf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_PHA View Post
    Another thing. Tomato Basil Soup. Mike Tyson has credited this for losing 100 lbs.

    A can is like 200 calories. Sprinkle it with salt and pepper, and toss is 5 crackers, you are at 300 calories you are basically full for like 3 hours.

    If you are truly serious about losing weight, go to your soup aisle at your grocery store, and Chunky has like 5 shelves of everything you can imagine for under 300 calories. The Vegetable Beef is top shelf.
    Most soups have too much sodium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_PHA View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mulva View Post
    giving up your carbonated sugar beverages is the 1st and easiest thing you need to do. there are many quality substitutes that you can trick your mind/body for this. and once you give up pizza you'll be on your way. .you have to give these things up if you refuse to exercise and expect to lose weight.

    go buy some of those low calorie healthy choice entrees..you won't look back.....1600 calories a day is more than doable....

    just don't snack,..peanuts sunflower seeds, chips, dorito's etc, etc..
    Peanuts are DEFINTELY the worst. They are advertised as healthy but in reality a handful is like 200 calories. STAY AWAY
    Nuts in general are very good for you. Its the 1 thing that all Centurions agree on in Blue zones, but the downside is the calories. Good news is you dont need to eat alot to reep the benefits. A handful everyday or every other day is enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadyJ View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fluffer View Post
    meal 5

    protein shake/yogurt
    Dont forget all the extra protein you get sucking cock
    He didn't forget it, he just hid it in the mix so you wouldn't notice, like giving a heartworm pill to a dog wrapped in bacon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadyJ View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The_PHA View Post
    Another thing. Tomato Basil Soup. Mike Tyson has credited this for losing 100 lbs.

    A can is like 200 calories. Sprinkle it with salt and pepper, and toss is 5 crackers, you are at 300 calories you are basically full for like 3 hours.

    If you are truly serious about losing weight, go to your soup aisle at your grocery store, and Chunky has like 5 shelves of everything you can imagine for under 300 calories. The Vegetable Beef is top shelf.
    Most soups have too much sodium.
    Dude, don't you get it? It's all about calories bro!

    Forget about that meaningless shit like cholesterol, sodium, saturated and trans fats... None of that matters man, it's all about the calories. Bottomset clearly has this healthy life thing all figured out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegas1369 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ShadyJ View Post

    Most soups have too much sodium.
    Dude, don't you get it? It's all about calories bro!

    Forget about that meaningless shit like cholesterol, sodium, saturated and trans fats... None of that matters man, it's all about the calories. Bottomset clearly has this healthy life thing all figured out.
    Anybody notice that the crisis with obesity and Type II Diabetes in this country started to blossom in the 70s when they started shoving all this low fat shit down peoples throats tryign to convince them it was good for them. Reality is they traded fat calories for actually increased carbs overall. And the reality is that fat doesnt make you fat it is indeed extra calories. The body turns carbs into glucose in the body. Huge spikes cause huge dumps of insulin in healthy adults well when the body cant use the glucose that is bound by the insulin it converts it into fat stores mostly (some is stored in the liver in the form of glycogen as well and is indeed the second leading cause of fatty liver disease behind excessive alcohol consumption). Eventually the bodys system will start ignoring the sugar spikes and begins the progession to insulin resistant diabetes as the body begins to ignore the spikes to avoid whipsawing of your blood sugar but also simply because at a certain point your fat cells become nearly inundated and cant store anymore. (this is why ironicaly those people who are morbidly obese actually have lower numbers of diabetes overall then the general public ironically because their bodies have such a high number of adipose cellular tissue it can continue to convert the excess carbs into fat without the body ending up with sustained sugar spikes, doesnt do shit to save them from skyhigh cholesterol and other shit which can kill them much faster then diabetic complications however).

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    the biggest problem i notice is that druff talks alot about eating less and replacing lunch with cheese and crackers and stuff like that. This will never work you will always be hungry and you will no be able to keep it up. You have to eat alot but eat a diet of mainly salads chicken breast and fish. snack on fruits and veggies as much as you want. at first this will not get you full but over time your body will adjust to it. you obv have to do some sort of daily physical activities aswell, and stay away from bread as much as possible and any form of gluten

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    and also ask china for advice he knows alot about what your trying to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadyJ View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The_PHA View Post

    Peanuts are DEFINTELY the worst. They are advertised as healthy but in reality a handful is like 200 calories. STAY AWAY
    Nuts in general are very good for you. Its the 1 thing that all Centurions agree on in Blue zones, but the downside is the calories. Good news is you dont need to eat alot to reep the benefits. A handful everyday or every other day is enough.
    +1....nuts are a very good insoluable fiber source (nice way of saying they make shitting painlessly easy--over 75% of men 50 or older have internal hemriods, and Druff, that aint far off for you); but peanuts are not the best nut to select for that because of the calories--better choice is almonds or even cashews.

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    EATING IS JUST IN YOUR MIND. YESTERDAY I NEVER ATE ANYTHING TODAY I ATE A SUBWAY SUB WRAP. THAT ALL. THE LESS I EAT THE BETTER I FEEL IAM LIKE DRUFF I MUST HAVE MY COKE IN A CAN AT LEAST 3 ADAY BUT THATS WHEN I NO LONGER CARED FOR FOOD. I COULD EAT 10 WHEAT CRACKERS AND NEED NOTHING UNTIL THE NEXT NITE. I COULD EAT A SALAD A DAY FOR ONE WEEK AND WANT NOTHING ELSE BUT THOSE 3 COKES AND NEVER BE HUNGRAY ONE TIME. I LOST 98 LBS IN 2 YEARS. OK I LIED THOSE 3 COKES ARE REALY 8 THE REST IS TRUE. THE COKE IS WHY I DONT EAT

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    oh snap, witteles is not gonna approve mark my words.

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    Druff its been 11 days, why no update??

    Is it because you cant help yourself and been chugging Pepsi all day long like its going out of style??

    You know this grandstanding Jew would be all over our faces if he was down like 5 pounds by now.

    Over/under Valentines DAy for the date when Druff admits this was an epic FAIL?

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