PROJEKT:SEP **SCAM** (Rolled: A Jasep Saga)

[ShadyJ]

I'd like to give my very uneducated opinion of a poker player with a gambling problem.

Poker players play poker because they feel theres an edge they have. The typical gambler that gambles on slots,blackjack, or whatever house game knows that they dont have an edge(Micon excluded) they gamble for the thrill of running like God and crushing the game. Its not even about the money so much as it is the thrill.

Poker players no matter how bad they are will never ever think their bad. They see alot of guys who play really bad so they automatically think their good. Theres nothing you can tell them to make them realize this. They have to figure it out on their own.

Heres my personal story just fuckin act like you care bitches.

I played home games and started playing online at Party poker because my boys did. I deposited like $500 crushed some satys to big tourneys. I play a 200k guaranteed with a $220 buy in with 1380 people and take 2nd. I made 30k in 8.5 hrs. I ws God I was the best in the world. It didnt even feel like real money I was playing those 1k 2 table step tourneys and just kept bubbling.

This storys to long so a long story short I sucked and no one could tell me any different. The point is Jasep sucks at poker but because in his mind he doesnt he will never be able to stop playing poker. Its like Lindgren he got treatment for the house games but hes great at poker so thats not a problem. In reality Lindgren is a typical live player that cant comprehend wont most 21 year old online players already know.

The point of this incredibly boring story is even if Jasep gets treatment he will stop playing house games but he will never stop playing poker so he will always be looking for the next scam.

I dont believe its possible for a poker player that thinks their good which is 99% of poker players to get help imo.

[PLOL]

Completely agree with Brandon that anything he said in his first post, was completely invalidated by his second post. Only reason he made a post is because he realizes that there are going to be real life consequences that he can't escape from. Consequences will never be the same.

[Crowe Diddly]

Is it just me or is it funny as hell he says he hasnt read this thread while he responds to posts made itt?

but yeah, that was funny.

[Lord of the Fraud]

Not read anywhere near all this thread so apologies if my post is bullshit.


But this 22Q is a really small charity that hasn't had a large 4 figure single donation within the last 12 or so months?

Yet surely they must of been aware that a VERY nice donation way soon on its way? Yet when this LARGE donation doesn't arrive, nobody from this SMALL charity asks a question or two?

That just seems odd to me.


How many volunteers/staff do they have working for them? Was the treasurer not made aware that a possible $6,000 plus donation would be made soon? How much have you raised as a charity in the last 6 months?


Sorry again if my facts and points are totally off.

[ShadyJ]

Not read anywhere near all this thread so apologies if my post is bullshit.


But this 22Q is a really small charity that hasn't had a large 4 figure single donation within the last 12 or so months?

Yet surely they must of been aware that a VERY nice donation way soon on its way? Yet when this LARGE donation doesn't arrive, nobody from this SMALL charity asks a question or two?

That just seems odd to me.


How many volunteers/staff do they have working for them? Was the treasurer not made aware that a possible $6,000 plus donation would be made soon? How much have you raised as a charity in the last 6 months?


Sorry again if my facts and points are totally off.

Dude Jasep clearly gave them the funds through an unidentified 3rd party for a tax break.

[LLL]

Not read anywhere near all this thread so apologies if my post is bullshit.


But this 22Q is a really small charity that hasn't had a large 4 figure single donation within the last 12 or so months?

Yet surely they must of been aware that a VERY nice donation way soon on its way? Yet when this LARGE donation doesn't arrive, nobody from this SMALL charity asks a question or two?

That just seems odd to me.


How many volunteers/staff do they have working for them? Was the treasurer not made aware that a possible $6,000 plus donation would be made soon? How much have you raised as a charity in the last 6 months?


Sorry again if my facts and points are totally off.

So you're saying that the charity could have stopped this scam much sooner?

[Lord of the Fraud]

Not read anywhere near all this thread so apologies if my post is bullshit.


But this 22Q is a really small charity that hasn't had a large 4 figure single donation within the last 12 or so months?

Yet surely they must of been aware that a VERY nice donation way soon on its way? Yet when this LARGE donation doesn't arrive, nobody from this SMALL charity asks a question or two?

That just seems odd to me.


How many volunteers/staff do they have working for them? Was the treasurer not made aware that a possible $6,000 plus donation would be made soon? How much have you raised as a charity in the last 6 months?


Sorry again if my facts and points are totally off.

So you're saying that the charity could have stopped this scam much sooner?

I guess that would've brought the scam to light much sooner yes. And maybe even stopped it. But would've been accidental on their part.

How did Jasep know that this SMALL charity wouldn't notice this VERY LARGE donation in quick fire time and blow his whole scam to pieces?

We sure Jasep was working alone?

For a start.

[LLL]

So you're saying that the charity could have stopped this scam much sooner?

I guess that would've brought the scam to light much sooner yes. And maybe even stopped it. But would've been accidental on their part.

How did Jasep know that this SMALL charity wouldn't notice this VERY LARGE donation in quick fire time and blow his whole scam to pieces?

We sure Jasep was working alone?

For a start.

A scammer of his nature could surely string along a charity for a few months. I wouldn't start looking for a deeper conspiracy here. Let's keep eyes on the guilty party.

[Deal]

The links from the 22q website to their past financials are all 404's. http://www.22q.org/index.php/foundat...tion/financial

[Hockey Guy]

Hello,

Insert ridiculous apology here while not mentioning the most important aspect, the 22q allegations.

-Johnny Sep

I received this email word for word as I'm sure every duped investor did.

All I can say about it is that even my hotmail knew to put it in the "Junk" folder.

[Rollo Tomasi]

Completely agree with Brandon that anything he said in his first post, was completely invalidated by his second post. Only reason he made a post is because he realizes that there are going to be real life consequences that he can't escape from. Consequences will never be the same.

Jasep sent me his first post in an email, NO Hi Rollo, NO Hello Rollo or anything personal, it appears to be a form letter:

"Hello,

I am writing everyone to come clean about some of the things you have read online about me and attempt to rectify the situation."

is there some kind of scammers/ con man playbook wtf

[BeerAndPoker]

So I guess the next step today is what news we get from Brandon or anyone else who calls Jasep probation officer?

Please keep us informed!

[chinamaniac]

How did Jasep know that this SMALL charity wouldn't notice this VERY LARGE donation in quick fire time and blow his whole scam to pieces?

.

Desperate people do desperate things. He had all the money in his paypal, he then went to Borgota right after the podcast.

Probably just tried to run it up and got crushed and paid for life expenses etc or a combo of all.

He may have been on pins and needles waiting for questions but hit a 1 outer when he was never questioned by anyone.

I believe the largest donation this charity received over a 3 month period was the $2000 that they did receive from VPR so they probably didn't look into it.

The treasurer might have even had no idea that $6500-$6600 was raised

And I believe he was def working alone. I can state 100 % I was not working with him as I have turned over chat logs and have been talking with others for the better part of 45 days trying to piece this whole thing together and I was ripped off as well for close to 600

[Rollo Tomasi]

So I guess the next step today is what news we get from Brandon or anyone else who calls Jasep probation officer?

Please keep us informed!

EMERGENCY RADIO !!! oh wait.... scheduled radio tonite

hope Yebsite fraud & Makar tapes/UB on the menu those 2 took a pass when the Jasep scam busted loose

[Deal]

So I guess the next step today is what news we get from Brandon or anyone else who calls Jasep probation officer?

Please keep us informed!

I am curious as to which treatment facility he checked himself into and how the job search is going. Also his interactions with Mystery man 'C' that was suppose to get that check into 22q.

[Lord of the Fraud]

I guess that would've brought the scam to light much sooner yes. And maybe even stopped it. But would've been accidental on their part.

How did Jasep know that this SMALL charity wouldn't notice this VERY LARGE donation in quick fire time and blow his whole scam to pieces?

We sure Jasep was working alone?

For a start.

A scammer of his nature could surely string along a charity for a few months. I wouldn't start looking for a deeper conspiracy here. Let's keep eyes on the guilty party.

Ya you're probably right fella.

But they was the questions that sprung to mind after reading the 2nd half of the thread.

[manowar]

so what does this response point out? what relevance does this have? the guy got 420 dollars for free out sep.

this is exactly what i mean, you're an idiot. you're just shooting in all directions hoping to hit something.

What it shows is that Jasep lied to this guy about 10 times, then you came in to defend Jasep as a stand up guy.

[Lord of the Fraud]

Desperate people do desperate things. He had all the money in his paypal, he then went to Borgota right after the podcast.

Probably just tried to run it up and got crushed and paid for life expenses etc or a combo of all.

He may have been on pins and needles waiting for questions but hit a 1 outer when he was never questioned by anyone.

I believe the largest donation this charity received over a 3 month period was the $2000 that they did receive from VPR so they probably didn't look into it.

The treasurer might have even had no idea that $6500-$6600 was raised

And I believe he was def working alone. I can state 100 % I was not working with him as I have turned over chat logs and have been talking with others for the better part of 45 days trying to piece this whole thing together and I was ripped off as well for close to 600

That was not my intention to make innocent parties like yourself feeling the need to defend themselves with my question of "was he working alone?". Apologies.


The bit were he faded the charity blowing up his spot is just something that seemed a bit off to me.

[BeerAndPoker]

So I guess the next step today is what news we get from Brandon or anyone else who calls Jasep probation officer?

Please keep us informed!

I am curious as to which treatment facility he checked himself into and how the job search is going. Also his interactions with Mystery man 'C' that was suppose to get that check into 22q.

I would be curious on these things too but the only information we will get on it will be based off his word which at this point nobody will believe.

The mystery man is a 100% hoax lie but even if it was somehow true then he commits another crime conspiring to help someone commit tax fraud.

[sonatine]

so what does this response point out? what relevance does this have? the guy got 420 dollars for free out sep.

this is exactly what i mean, you're an idiot. you're just shooting in all directions hoping to hit something.

What it shows is that Jasep lied to this guy about 10 times, then you came in to defend Jasep as a stand up guy.