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    Trespass with intention of robbing and harming my family........yes.....I will shoot to kill and overkill.

    Progressive cowards like DirtyB will attend the criminals' funerals.

    I'll tend to my lawn.

    I spit on scum like DirtyB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post
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    I can dump a 16 round clip in about 2 seconds.
    OK. That doesn't include walking towards someone you're ostensibly trying to get away from, putting your gun to their chin, and executing them.
    Net result is the same and if you shoot someone, they're not gonna just take it, they're comin' for you as long as they can. His mistake was not using a shotgun or some really large caliber rifle / pistol. I mean if you've ever hunted small game with a .22, you know what I mean, things just don't die easy. All that being said, I say he should get the same punishment as the cops that shot Amadou Diallo

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    Quote Originally Posted by cleatus View Post
    Of course the guy will be tried for murder.

    Why did he give so much info to the cops? Especially using the phrases he did? People will die from chest wounds with a 22, just give em some time to bleed out or lungs collapse/fill with blood. It's like a lung shot on a deer or elk, they will still run until lack of oxygen or something drops them.

    Why did the girl go down the stairs after hearing two shots?

    Too damn bad that a lot of tax money will be spent convicting, housing, feeding and giving med care to the loon that shot too many times.
    To be fair, the local government could donate the criminals' bodies to a local pig farm.

    Then DirtyB's progressive Democrats could have a Bacon/Pork BBQ to raise money to elect more Socialists.

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    guns are stupid and using them in this scenario is even dumber

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    This is right near my hometown. Talked to my dad on the phone tonight and he told me about it. Kinda funny I heard about it from him, then log in here and read about it an hour later. Anyway, I think he did the right thing. Unfortunately hes an ole shit for brains, and the stupid things he said will probably end up convicting him. LOL at the facebook group or whatever it was talking about how great of kids these two were.

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    This isn't the world's greatest shooting, but it also isn't the world's worst.

    It is ugly and brutal and messy. That's how shootings go when done by non-professionals.

    Night, multiple persons invading your home - who knows how many more coming. He shoots. Adrenaline is surging. His guns are not well kept and he has to switch, but he shoots and keeps shooting until nothing moves. He finished them off - that what animals do to each other - it is nature.

    Justified. Not murder. Actions have consequences. Moral - don't go breaking into houses when people are there cuz' they might have guns and you might end up dead. Kids being stupid kids - its a wonder more of them aren't killed before they get to age 25. These two didn't make it.

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    Also - think about how stupid perp#2 is. Bang bang bang into perp#1 - instead of turning around and trying to escape - perp#2 keeps on coming - bang bang bang.

    Taking out the garbage.

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    I don't see how you put an old man in prison because of this. Guy is 64 ears old, has no criminal record, doesn't seem to bother anybody, but some kids break into his house and hes going to end up spending what amounts to the rest of his life because of it? Thats a bad beat if I've ever heard of one.

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    LOL this chick is god tho. Laughing at the dude after he already shot her, cause when he tried to shoot her again and kill her his gun jammed. Broad must've been dope up as hell

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    Quote Originally Posted by SetofKs View Post
    I don't see how you put an old man in prison because of this. Guy is 64 ears old, has no criminal record, doesn't seem to bother anybody, but some kids break into his house and hes going to end up spending what amounts to the rest of his life because of it? Thats a bad beat if I've ever heard of one.
    The article said his place was broken into like 12 times prior

    I mean of course he went way over the top but what if in his mind he thought all these repeated break ins were the same people and he wanted to finally dispose of them?

    A lot of people want to make kids *especially white ones* out to be saints that just merely fucked up but even there own family admits to drug abuse, how do we not know it was them the whole time?

    Face value it seems very over the top vindication but when you dig in it's like how could you charge this dude with murder, even the damn law says you have a right.

    If this guy wasn't abused repeatedly over and over himself and this was the first or 2nd...shit even 3rd time his house was broken into then I'd say execute however thats not the case and even the victims families are talking about drug addiction.

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    To all those bleeding hearts out there for these kids, let me put it like this.

    A few years ago I was faced with a dire situation. I mouthed off to exactly the wrong guy. Late in the evening I got rolled up. Not by him alone, but with 7 of his friends. For whatever reason, I got a pass and was able to walk away.

    You just have to be careful in life and not put yourself in bad situations. No matter how much of a bad ass you think you are, there is someone always on the other side that simply does not give a shit about anything.

    You can debate the fact whether the guy should have blown them up all day long. Bottom line is you have a couple teenagers dead and their life is gone and that it that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
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    Everyone at PFA knows DirtyB is a progressive Obama apologist.... a limp-wristed coward.

    No surprise Socialist Barry sides with the criminals.

    He is a disgrace.

    LOL... Yeah it takes a tough guy to shoot a teen age girl multiple times. I can understand being an old feeble pussy like yourself that you can identify with the guy. I understand you shake uncontrollably every time a kid walks across your lawn, but you don't have to project so much you old bitch.

    Take a few deep breaths Pete, put your gun down, the 13 year old girl isn't going to hurt you, she's just selling Girl Scout cookies.


    seriously though, this story doesn't pass the smell test

    guy shoots the kid, and then the girl walks downstairs in the direction of the shooter? and then gets shot and laughs at him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillieMcFML View Post
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    LOL... Yeah it takes a tough guy to shoot a teen age girl multiple times. I can understand being an old feeble pussy like yourself that you can identify with the guy. I understand you shake uncontrollably every time a kid walks across your lawn, but you don't have to project so much you old bitch.

    Take a few deep breaths Pete, put your gun down, the 13 year old girl isn't going to hurt you, she's just selling Girl Scout cookies.


    seriously though, this story doesn't pass the smell test

    guy shoots the kid, and then the girl walks downstairs in the direction of the shooter? and then gets shot and laughs at him?

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    I'm telling you all that this guy tried to kidnap them and they tried to get away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post
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    seriously though, this story doesn't pass the smell test

    guy shoots the kid, and then the girl walks downstairs in the direction of the shooter? and then gets shot and laughs at him?

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    I'm telling you all that this guy tried to kidnap them and they tried to get away.
    i think she was just doped up out of her mind. if dude is make up a story after a kidnapping goes wrong, why make his alibi that he shot her cause she laughed at him? also seems weird for a dude to have no criminal history til hes 60 then suddenly decide to kidnap some kids. dudes obviously a little nuts, but maybe getting broken into 12 times drove him a little crazy

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    Quote Originally Posted by SetofKs View Post
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    I'm telling you all that this guy tried to kidnap them and they tried to get away.
    i think she was just doped up out of her mind. if dude is make up a story after a kidnapping goes wrong, why make his alibi that he shot her cause she laughed at him? also seems weird for a dude to have no criminal history til hes 60 then suddenly decide to kidnap some kids. dudes obviously a little nuts, but maybe getting broken into 12 times drove him a little crazy
    You won't be happy until they find his genetic material somewhere on that girl (guy?), but if they do it's game over for sure. He hid the bodies for a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post
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    i think she was just doped up out of her mind. if dude is make up a story after a kidnapping goes wrong, why make his alibi that he shot her cause she laughed at him? also seems weird for a dude to have no criminal history til hes 60 then suddenly decide to kidnap some kids. dudes obviously a little nuts, but maybe getting broken into 12 times drove him a little crazy
    You won't be happy until they find his genetic material somewhere on that girl (guy?), but if they do it's game over for sure. He hid the bodies for a reason.
    I choose to believe that the chick laughed the dude as hes shooting her. Kidnapping is an interesting angle tho. Do you think he kidnapped them before they showed up, or did they show up to rob him, and he decided "hmmm this chicks kinda cute, i think i'll keep her"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post
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    If he just KILLED them he would have been alright

    I guess he taught that little bitch a lesson about snickering at the wrong people

    I'm just wondering if they were actually robbing the house anyway
    , I mean.. he could have invited them over.. who would be the wiser.. shit gets out of control and before he can tie them both up he kills them both and tells the cops it's a robbery. Motive for body concealment anyway. Again.. Hostel.
    I was wondering that myself.

    Story of them "breaking in" doesn't seem to jive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SetofKs View Post
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    You won't be happy until they find his genetic material somewhere on that girl (guy?), but if they do it's game over for sure. He hid the bodies for a reason.
    I choose to believe that the chick laughed the dude as hes shooting her. Kidnapping is an interesting angle tho. Do you think he kidnapped them before they showed up, or did they show up to rob him, and he decided "hmmm this chicks kinda cute, i think i'll keep her"?
    Either, or. Makes no difference which angle, both are acceptable premises. The big question will be if he actually was broken in to at all, if there are police reports and such. Ed Gein didn't have a criminal record either.

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    If he invited them over, likely their friends would know. It is interesting that the girl would have followed the guy after she hears gunshots and she comes down the stairs. Something else may have very well happened. He might have coaxed her down the stairs then shot her to make it look like more of a threat. I'm sure a lot of the shooting was justified, but he clearly goes over the line with his executor type stuff. She laughed at him .. if she did anything like this she was a pretty hard bitch. It could have been a 'fuck you' type comment. Guy got plenty of time to think his story over and let their side of the story die.

    Obviously the law needs to go after anyone who does some executioner style shots after a person is mortally wounded and no reasonable threat. The law can't accept that type of behavior. 6ToedPete needs to find a state and secede with the rest of his righteous loonies.

    IMO good riddance but that guy needs a few years behind bars for sheer stupidity with a gun.

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    Here's my take on it. Either you have the right to use lethal force to protect yourself or your property or you don't.

    Some people seem to take issue with his statements making it sound like he enjoyed killing these two. Well, guess what. The law doesn't stipulate that you can only use deadly force if you're remorseful about it after the fact. He might be a dick for what he said, but being a dick doesn't mean that killing intruders in your home was murder.

    The fact is, if an intruder is in your home and you merely wound them, you have no idea what might still happen. They could still pull out a gun and kill you. You have no idea what that person may still be capable of, and killing or harming you is still a distinct possibility as long as they are still alive. They might be pretending to be more hurt than they are, and then you turn around to pick up the phone to call 911 and they shoot you in the back.

    This guy will get his day in court, and will hopefully be acquitted, or at the very least, convicted of a charge lesser than 2nd degree murder.


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