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    Everyone think this shooting is justified or Murder??


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    If they were a different color, would you have posted this?

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    'If you're trying to shoot somebody and they laugh at you, you go again,' Smith, 64, told investigators, according to a criminal complaint filed Monday.

    He then shot her several times in the chest with a .22-caliber revolver, dragged her next to her cousin, and with as she gasped for air, fired a shot under her chin 'up into the cranium'.

    'Smith described it as "a good clean finishing shot",' according to the compliant, and acknowledged he had fired 'more shots than (he) needed to'.
    I was looking for some reason to let the guy off but after reading that can't do it. I side with protecting ones home in 99.9999% of cases but from what was described there was at least one execution too many.

    He should fry, this actually isn't even close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler View Post
    'If you're trying to shoot somebody and they laugh at you, you go again,' Smith, 64, told investigators, according to a criminal complaint filed Monday.

    He then shot her several times in the chest with a .22-caliber revolver, dragged her next to her cousin, and with as she gasped for air, fired a shot under her chin 'up into the cranium'.

    'Smith described it as "a good clean finishing shot",' according to the compliant, and acknowledged he had fired 'more shots than (he) needed to'.
    I was looking for some reason to let the guy off but after reading that can't do it. I side with protecting ones home in 99.9999% of cases but from what was described there was at least one execution too many.

    He should fry, this actually isn't even close.
    Ever seen Hostel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler View Post

    I was looking for some reason to let the guy off but after reading that can't do it. I side with protecting ones home in 99.9999% of cases but from what was described there was at least one execution too many.

    He should fry, this actually isn't even close.
    Ever seen Hostel?
    No.

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    I know it's an ugly case of two young lowlife criminals getting what they deserved but the liberal press will spin it to make this scum look like martyrs. That's probably why the innocent property owner didn't report it right away.

    Anyway...he did the right thing.

    Come try that at my home...I'll do the the same, then feed you to the animals so your Obama voting relatives will have nothing to bury.

    I spit on young scum criminals.

    The guy deserves a medal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler View Post
    'If you're trying to shoot somebody and they laugh at you, you go again,' Smith, 64, told investigators, according to a criminal complaint filed Monday.

    He then shot her several times in the chest with a .22-caliber revolver, dragged her next to her cousin, and with as she gasped for air, fired a shot under her chin 'up into the cranium'.

    'Smith described it as "a good clean finishing shot",' according to the compliant, and acknowledged he had fired 'more shots than (he) needed to'.
    I was looking for some reason to let the guy off but after reading that can't do it. I side with protecting ones home in 99.9999% of cases but from what was described there was at least one execution too many.

    He should fry, this actually isn't even close.
    Yup. And stashing the bodies instead of immediately calling the police shows that the guy knew he had just fucked up.

    The law says that you're allowed to defend yourself until the perpetrator is no longer a threat- then you have to stop. When your adrenaline is pumping, that line can be a little blurry. The cops allow for that, like in this case-

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14859827.../#.ULRwkoc83w0

    A 51 year old nurse takes a fucking hammer to the face, and then still manages to get the guy in a rear naked choke. She keeps holding it after he passes out, and kills him. No charges.

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    So if he didn't give such a blow by blow account, you'd still have 2 dead robbers, right? Does 'it was dark, thought I saw a gun, the one charged at me' change this outcome?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post
    So if he didn't give such a blow by blow account, you'd still have 2 dead robbers, right? Does 'it was dark, thought I saw a gun, the one charged at me' change this outcome?
    Yeah...except the cops will notice the half dozen bullets in the kid's chest and the point blank entry wound in their chin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post
    So if he didn't give such a blow by blow account, you'd still have 2 dead robbers, right? Does 'it was dark, thought I saw a gun, the one charged at me' change this outcome?
    Yeah...except the cops will notice the half dozen bullets in the kid's chest and the point blank entry wound in their chin.
    Because you assume humans insta-die like in the movies when you shoot them with .22's?

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    If he just KILLED them he would have been alright

    I guess he taught that little bitch a lesson about snickering at the wrong people

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    Quote Originally Posted by lewfather View Post
    If he just KILLED them he would have been alright

    I guess he taught that little bitch a lesson about snickering at the wrong people
    I'm just wondering if they were actually robbing the house anyway, I mean.. he could have invited them over.. who would be the wiser.. shit gets out of control and before he can tie them both up he kills them both and tells the cops it's a robbery. Motive for body concealment anyway. Again.. Hostel.

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    If you're a 64 year old man, shooting an 18 year old male who broke in can be considered reasonable. Killing the girl, even if she was high, or fucked up, is just absurd. Just because you might legally be allowed to kill the girl if she forcibly entered doesn't make you any less a pussy. Dude went way too far. He looks like a drunk, so it will be interesting to see how this plays out. I wouldn't doubt he waited because he was fucked up himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post

    Yeah...except the cops will notice the half dozen bullets in the kid's chest and the point blank entry wound in their chin.
    Because you assume humans insta-die like in the movies when you shoot them with .22's?
    A person with a half dozen bullets in their chest, even little .22 bullets, is clearly no longer a threat to your safety.

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    Everyone at PFA knows DirtyB is a progressive Obama apologist.... a limp-wristed coward.

    No surprise Socialist Barry sides with the criminals.

    He is a disgrace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lewfather View Post
    If he just KILLED them he would have been alright

    I guess he taught that little bitch a lesson about snickering at the wrong people
    I'm just wondering if they were actually robbing the house anyway, I mean.. he could have invited them over.. who would be the wiser.. shit gets out of control and before he can tie them both up he kills them both and tells the cops it's a robbery. Motive for body concealment anyway. Again.. Hostel.
    In a criminal complaint, Smith said he was in the basement of his home when he heard a window breaking and footsteps.
    Is anyone crazy enough to do all that while living in MN and still have the wits about them to fake a break in?

    Plus some people in the family said they had some sort of drug addictions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post

    Because you assume humans insta-die like in the movies when you shoot them with .22's?
    A person with a half dozen bullets in their chest, even little .22 bullets, is clearly no longer a threat to your safety.
    I can dump a 16 round clip in about 2 seconds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SixToedPete View Post
    Everyone at PFA knows DirtyB is a progressive Obama apologist.... a limp-wristed coward.

    No surprise Socialist Barry sides with the criminals.

    He is a disgrace.
    Did you read NaturalBornHustler's comment? Or did it take you 20 minutes just to read my post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SixToedPete View Post
    Everyone at PFA knows DirtyB is a progressive Obama apologist.... a limp-wristed coward.

    No surprise Socialist Barry sides with the criminals.

    He is a disgrace.

    LOL... Yeah it takes a tough guy to shoot a teen age girl multiple times. I can understand being an old feeble pussy like yourself that you can identify with the guy. I understand you shake uncontrollably every time a kid walks across your lawn, but you don't have to project so much you old bitch.

    Take a few deep breaths Pete, put your gun down, the 13 year old girl isn't going to hurt you, she's just selling Girl Scout cookies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post

    A person with a half dozen bullets in their chest, even little .22 bullets, is clearly no longer a threat to your safety.
    I can dump a 16 round clip in about 2 seconds.
    OK. That doesn't include walking towards someone you're ostensibly trying to get away from, putting your gun to their chin, and executing them.

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