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    Petition to ban Howard Lederer

    http://pokerfuse.com/news/live-and-o...lederer-15-11/

    A group of cash game grinders, led by a well-known Las Vegas pro, want Howard Lederer banned from the Aria poker room.

    Nick DiVella, a regular in the 5/10NL and 10/20NL games, is presenting a petition to players at Aria today. He said he had talked to upwards of 50 players who already agreed to sign it.

    “We believe the casino has a moral and ethical obligation to bar Howard Lederer from playing in the poker room and should Aria casino fail to take immediate action we, the poker playing community, will be forced to boycott the poker room,” the petition reads in part.

    The former Full Tilt owner has played several sessions in the Ivey Room at Aria over the last month.

    DiVella believes poker needs a governing body, and hopes his efforts lead to further action, perhaps similar efforts at Bellagio, where Lederer also has played.

    “He doesn’t deserve to play,” DiVella said on Twitter. “Maybe this will be the start of a poker black list.”

    DiVella found success in poker by multi-tabling Rush games on Full Tilt, while a student at UNLV, and said it “tilts me to no end” to see Lederer walk into his favorite poker room.

    “From the response I have gotten so far it seems like it will be a huge success,” he tweeted.

    Leon Wheeler, Aria poker room swing shift manager, said Wednesday that he was aware that some players were upset with Lederer playing, but he hadn’t seen a petition. Divella said he would not ask employees to sign the petitition.

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    “We haven’t taken a stance on (whether Lederer should be allowed to play at Aria),” Wheeler said.

    Lederer, who made a public return to poker last month, playing in the biggest cash games in Las Vegas, was at Aria as recently as Sunday.

    “Really, the issue has nothing to do with us,” Wheeler said.

    While Wheeler has the authority to ban individual players from the poker room in cases of improper conduct on the property, he said a decision on Lederer would ultimately be made by someone else.

    Wheeler called Lederer’s presence a “safety issue,” perhaps for Lederer himself.

    When Lederer first returned to the tables, there were reports that Bellagio and Aria received death threat phone calls after he arrived to play.

    Both casinos planted security guards in front of their respective glass-encased high-stakes tables.

    The US Department of Justice has a civil suit against Lederer for more than $40m, and he has implied that some of his bank accounts may have been frozen by the DOJ as part of the ongoing case.

    DiVella has said that he hoped poker players would refuse to sit with Lederer until Full Tilt funds were returned to US players.

    In a settlement with the Department of Justice, PokerStars purchased Full Tilt and agreed to repay rest of the world players, while the government would reimburse US players.

    The Poker Players Alliance said this week that the DOJ has made little progress in efforts to refund the money.

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    Cant' we all just get along, guys? There's no need for all this hostility. Full Tilt made a deal, and I'm sure the DOJ will pay everyone in a timely manner. Leave Howard alone. =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anal_Herchiser View Post
    Cant' we all just get along, guys? There's no need for all this hostility. Full Tilt made a deal, and I'm sure the DOJ will pay everyone in a timely manner. Leave Howard alone. =)
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    I'd say good luck in the freeroll but I'm pretty sure you'll go on a bender to self-sabotage yourself & miss it completely or use it as the excuse of why you didn't cash.

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    A "Poker black list"??

    Good luck with that.

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    I would like to see him banned, but I wouldn't blame the casinos if they don't want to.

    If they start banning people with moral/ethical/legal failings, there won't be anyone left in the room.

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    I seriously doubt you could have him banned unless he cheated players in the Aria poker room.

    Tom Dwan, Phil Ivey, Erik Seidel, John Juanda, and most other former FTP and other high limit players know Howard
    is a fucking fish and an inferior poker player who is going to lose just about every time he plays.

    Alot of players would love to play Howard and beat him out of his money before the federal government takes it all.







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    banned from the aria? the horror! the horror!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I would like to see him banned, but I wouldn't blame the casinos if they don't want to.

    If they start banning people with moral/ethical/legal failings, there won't be anyone left in the room
    trust me I would love to see him banned but it will never happen just like russ hamilton is still playing poker maybe not in vegas but he still has the ability to play and get action.. The poker world is a strange anomaly where people exchange 100's of thousands of dollars on hand shakes and verbal agreements where in the real business world none of that would ever fly. This world is held together largely in part by trust now he might have broken all of our trust no bc he was stealing or personally wronged us but bc we trusted him to look out for our best interests. This shall pass and howard will be back to grinding but he has already really retired before blak friday so i dont see this being a trend

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    Howard Lederer files Motion to Dismiss...

    http://onlinepokerreport.com/wp-cont...to-dismiss.pdf

    The U.S. government has a 98% win rate in federal court, Howard has no chance,
    his houses will be seized and sold off, any cash in bank accounts will be gone and
    hopefully any cash, jewelry, gold, etc. will be taken from him and Howard will then become homeless.




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    Why bother with a ban...Howard's already a a marked man who's fate awaits him...I don't feel a fully armed body gaurd could help him...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
    Howard Lederer files Motion to Dismiss...

    http://onlinepokerreport.com/wp-cont...to-dismiss.pdf

    The U.S. government has a 98% win rate in federal court, Howard has no chance,
    his houses will be seized and sold off, any cash in bank accounts will be gone and
    hopefully any cash, jewelry, gold, etc. will be taken from him and Howard will then become homeless.



    gtfo

    this guy ain't gonna lose much. u don't think he has a plan

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