just got my renewal for next year - up $2,100
Than you Mr President
just got my renewal for next year - up $2,100
Than you Mr President
You on a family plan? As a single person mine went up $20 bucks a month. The family plan at my company went up I believe an additional $60 bucks.Originally Posted by Rollo Tomasi
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You on a family plan? As a single person mine went up $20 bucks a month. The family plan at my company went up I believe an additional $60 bucks.
Again this is less of a function of the medical bill and more a function of where you live, your insurance company and most importantly your employer's decision of how much to pay. My ex wife's is $100 a month for everything (covering herself and our 1 child, I know because I pay it) with $5 co-pays and hasn't changed a bit. However, that is entirely the decision of her employer, a large, mega-rich law firm who are keenly aware that sick kids and employees lower billing hours for their billing attorneys.
Rollo: Your employer controls your costs, just like they control your salary. Market forces do effect this, such as the routine rise in insurance costs, but ultimately it is on them, idiot.
That's the actual answer, but speaking more generally-
When the Affordable Care Act was originally pitched by Obama and the House leadership, it included the "public option" where the government would compete with private health insurers in order to bring costs down. The House actually passed that bill.
Joe Lieberman, Evan Bayh, and several other "Blue Dog" Senate Democrats from conservative states refused to support that. The compromise was the individual mandate system- as originally proposed by the right wing Heritage Foundation and championed by Gov. Mitt Romney. Despite keeping the original name of the bill, it makes absolutely no effort to fight rising costs. Costs are still entirely controlled by the all-powerful free market that conservatives love so much. The only thing Obamacare does is try to get the 50 million previously uninsured Americans some coverage, and stops insurance companies from denying claims for preexisting conditions.
Health care costs have been out of control for more than 30 years.
Like flies on shit. LOL.That's the actual answer, but speaking more generally-
When the Affordable Care Act was originally pitched by Obama and the House leadership, it included the "public option" where the government would compete with private health insurers in order to bring costs down. The House actually passed that bill.
Joe Lieberman, Evan Bayh, and several other "Blue Dog" Senate Democrats from conservative states refused to support that. The compromise was the individual mandate system- as originally proposed by the right wing Heritage Foundation and championed by Gov. Mitt Romney. Despite keeping the original name of the bill, it makes absolutely no effort to fight rising costs. That's all still controlled by the all-powerful free market that conservatives love so much. The only thing Obamacare does is try to get the 50 million previously uninsured Americans some coverage, and stops insurance companies from denying claims for preexisting conditions.
Is any of that wrong?Like flies on shit. LOL.
That's the actual answer, but speaking more generally-
When the Affordable Care Act was originally pitched by Obama and the House leadership, it included the "public option" where the government would compete with private health insurers in order to bring costs down. The House actually passed that bill.
Joe Lieberman, Evan Bayh, and several other "Blue Dog" Senate Democrats from conservative states refused to support that. The compromise was the individual mandate system- as originally proposed by the right wing Heritage Foundation and championed by Gov. Mitt Romney. Despite keeping the original name of the bill, it makes absolutely no effort to fight rising costs. That's all still controlled by the all-powerful free market that conservatives love so much. The only thing Obamacare does is try to get the 50 million previously uninsured Americans some coverage, and stops insurance companies from denying claims for preexisting conditions.
Your health insurance base costs to your employer has gone up every two years. For the last 20 years. The figures are all over the internet for every insurance company. The increases now are not any different as a percentage. The key (for you) is how much your company decides to pay in and how much they make you pay, along with which plan they pick.
Hardly Obama's fault if your company decided to pay less of the base costs. They also don't have to tell you, but you can find out for yourself. But then again, you are the type of person who would rather just blame Obama rather than finding out the facts of the matter.
And yes, there is nothing in this plan that will lower your health care costs if you aren't one of the "winners" like a person with 3 kids in college or a person with a pre existing condition. The plan is set up to save state, local and federal government money along with make large insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, general practice MD's and hospital chains more money. The losers include medical specialists and certain smaller insurance companies in certain states.
I don't know why I would even try to explain the bill to you other than it irritates me that you know almost nothing about what it actual does and how.....becaue you wouldn't give a shit if it was the best bill in the world. It's not. But you don't even know why.
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