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    Just a point of reference. I finished 7th in my class in High School and most students who had as many absences as I did are typically on the bottom of the class. I was also voted most likely to succeed. So I wasn’t diagnosed until many years later. I was good at hiding what I was going through.

    Anyways Happy Thanksgiving everyone. This stuff obviously hits close to home for me. But I repect everyone’s opinion. Psychiatry is an extremely inexact science. Why in civil/criminal cases they can find experts who are basically 180 degrees apart from eachother with their diagnosis.

    I will just say why the abuse was never caught even though it happened for a few years regularly. I have looked this up and haven’t found similar cases. The person was an adult and would put their entire body weight on me. Would use one had to cover my mouth and the other hold my nose. Would cut off air to me until I turned purple and/or temporarily lost consciousness. They were then nice enough for me to get a some air so I wouldn’t die and then would repeat the process. This method left no marks or bruises. Haven’t found a case like it.

    I think the routine lack of oxygen getting to my brain was probably what caused my body chemistry to change and the subsequent bipolar to manifest but I’ll never no for sure. I don’t think it was the trauma. I think it was just what the abuse did to my body’s development.
    That is a very odd case. I had some weird shit too that has been hard to find many others with similar histories, its difficult not finding people to understand.

    Not sure if you are familiar with genetics and phenotypic plasticity, but all sorts of outside stuff happening influences the expression of our genetics in differing ways, trauma during childhood is incredibly destructive, even things that don't normally fall under legal abuse, I think these are referred to as ACE's (adverse childhood events).

    Basically I don't think it was lack of oxygen, i think it was the trauma that mostly impacted your development.
    High # ACEs pretty much dictates adulthood if not dealt with via therapy/meds, at least for Americans.

    'Crazy' females almost 100% sex abused, sadly it's like 1 in 5 before age 8 and probably underreported.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post
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    That is a very odd case. I had some weird shit too that has been hard to find many others with similar histories, its difficult not finding people to understand.

    Not sure if you are familiar with genetics and phenotypic plasticity, but all sorts of outside stuff happening influences the expression of our genetics in differing ways, trauma during childhood is incredibly destructive, even things that don't normally fall under legal abuse, I think these are referred to as ACE's (adverse childhood events).

    Basically I don't think it was lack of oxygen, i think it was the trauma that mostly impacted your development.
    High # ACEs pretty much dictates adulthood if not dealt with via therapy/meds, at least for Americans.

    'Crazy' females almost 100% sex abused, sadly it's like 1 in 5 before age 8 and probably underreported.
    I've been close friends with many females and off the top of my head I think they ALL every one told me about sexual abuse in childhood or teenagehood, it is depressingly common, men are fuckin sick lol.

    And to a much lesser extent many were also hit/beaten in relationships as young adults, sick people out there - I truly do feel bad for women as far as physical victimization is concerned.

    I have made it a point to get all females in my family / extended family to get a blue belt in bjj as soon as possible, its my belief a woman with a legit blue belt+ is basically unrape-able by an average american male. Of course a guy with grappling experience will win a fight - but he wont be raping her unless shes drugged, or injured, or restrained.

    Anyways lol.

     
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    There is currently an epidemic of bipolar or borderline bipolar disorders among fairly hot women.

    Possibly tiggered by trama or sexual abuse.

    Some of these women believe some really crazy shit.

    Like they are being stalked by celebrities or imaginary people. Be careful, stay away.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Texter View Post
    His new podcast is basically him and Amanda talking about how she is bipolar.

    Apparently she would self medicate with coke and lots of random sex when she lived in LA.

    Sounds pretty terrible, the mental illness and the podcast both.
    She's hot and probably fucks real good when hypersexual.
    Downside, Daniel will be wishing its only as bad as Mike coming home to an empty house if Amanda ever goes full manic.
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    But I’m telling you the scariest 48 hours of my life wasn’t cancer. It wasn’t prepping for surgery when the result could be I’m a goner when I got out of surgery at 30. It wasn’t any of the ghetto situations I found myself in back during the party days. It wasn’t getting carjacked twice in my town in 89 and 90. It wasn’t owing money to a traight up killers. Like I always felt I could deal with that shit.

    The scariest 48 hours I ever spent was with a 100lb girl with a full blown manic episode. And it came out of nowhere. Like it wasn’t after some drug bender or any type of shit that you’d assume would bring one on.

    Sorry BCR, but this just sounds absurd. I highly doubt getting car jacked with a gun to your head was less scary than a 100 lb woman throwing a tatrum, probably because she was on some type of crystal meth. All you had to do was call the police, they come and take her to the local jail and then to the psyche ward. This whole bi-polar disorder is a bunch of bullshit, its a learned behavior that has gained acceptance, primarily because it gets you on disability insurance. You never see a guy wearing a construction helmet with a wife and three kids at home having bi-polar disorders. Lately its generally women, with sketchy jobs such as bloggers talking about it. Not saying clinical depression is not an issue, it is, but these derivatives that all of a sudden have surfaced the last 30 years and exploded now on social media, no sorry. It's like the fuckers that sit at home all day over "long covid" and collect a check. Get your fucking as off the couch and get back to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post
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    But I’m telling you the scariest 48 hours of my life wasn’t cancer. It wasn’t prepping for surgery when the result could be I’m a goner when I got out of surgery at 30. It wasn’t any of the ghetto situations I found myself in back during the party days. It wasn’t getting carjacked twice in my town in 89 and 90. It wasn’t owing money to a traight up killers. Like I always felt I could deal with that shit.

    The scariest 48 hours I ever spent was with a 100lb girl with a full blown manic episode. And it came out of nowhere. Like it wasn’t after some drug bender or any type of shit that you’d assume would bring one on.

    Sorry BCR, but this just sounds absurd. I highly doubt getting car jacked with a gun to your head was less scary than a 100 lb woman throwing a tatrum, probably because she was on some type of crystal meth. All you had to do was call the police, they come and take her to the local jail and then to the psyche ward. This whole bi-polar disorder is a bunch of bullshit, its a learned behavior that has gained acceptance, primarily because it gets you on disability insurance. You never see a guy wearing a construction helmet with a wife and three kids at home having bi-polar disorders. Lately its generally women, with sketchy jobs such as bloggers talking about it. Not saying clinical depression is not an issue, it is, but these derivatives that all of a sudden have surfaced the last 30 years and exploded now on social media, no sorry. It's like the fuckers that sit at home all day over "long covid" and collect a check. Get your fucking as off the couch and get back to work.
    I’m being 100% honest. I am a control freak of the highest order. I drive on winter roads like a little old lady. Legit little old ladies fly past me. I’m white-knuckled at any ice or snow if the temp is below freezing. Irrationally slow. I have five drinks and a Xanax before flying even if it’s 6AM.

    Things that are immediately threatening are done and over and don’t shake me up. When I had cancer I was very much like Druff was with his thing. Doubting every doctor. Constantly researching shit. Anxiety and depression at times, but not what I’d call fear.

    Having someone act that erratically over days petrified me for the same reasons winter driving does except for it was for days on end. Like you hit black ice and it’s not something you can control and the minute it’s below freezing and nasty that lack of control from previous episodes scares the fuck out of me.

    I compared her to a kid because it evoked that same feeling. I felt responsible for some girls safety who was basically like some manic child and yet I felt entirely powerless to alter her behavior. When I was sick I felt like I could figure it out even if that’s irrational. A problem to be solved. It didn’t evoke some feeling of powerlessness because it had many stops and starts and I was always trying to figure it out.

    I thought when she started acting erratically I could figure it out like some problem, yet what I tried made it worse and I couldn’t do anything about it for days. Mental illness does that to me. My mother was mentally ill to a lesser degree than that. Maybe it’s why I’m wired like that? I have no idea. But I know I’ve never had like a nightmare over my own illness or something violent that has happened to me. I have had several nightmares over situations that evoke powerlessness. However that is wired or whatever it says about me, thats who I am.

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    I believe BCR's story.

    When I was 21, I got to know a girl through a BBS (computer bulletin board) named Erica. She was 23. For a long time we were just acquaintances, but one night we got on the phone and talked for awhile, and it was the first time we had any kind of long conversation. At the end of the call, Erica invited me down to visit her at the bookstore where she worked. The next day I came down there, she was cute -- a short, small girl, probably like 5'2" and 105 pounds. We talked for about 10 minutes, she seemed sweet but quiet, and then told me she had to get back to work. Later that night she sent me a message on the BBS that she found me very attractive, and that she was quiet because she was "nervous" because she liked me so much. I called and asked her out, and she happily said yes. However, that date never took place because two of her friends disliked me, and talked her out of it. She called me up with an excuse, I could tell something was off, and pretty much got the picture. I stopped calling her, and that was that. No big deal, and I figured I'd never see her again. I got confirmation later from a third party that, yes, she was excited to go out with me but her friends basically said they wouldn't speak to her again if she did.

    About a year later, I was meeting a group of people from a different BBS for a party at someone's house. Erica strolled in, which surprised me because I didn't think she knew that crowd. But whatever, I was cordial, we said hi to each other, and then didn't interact much after that.

    However, as the night wore on, Erica started getting more and more agitated. It wasn't because of me, as I was keeping my distance from her. She started getting into it with another girl there, then started yelling at one of the guys, and I could tell she was having some kind of psychotic episode. She got worse and worse, and at one point started shouting that she knew we all brought her to the party so we could kill her. After that, she started grabbing things in the house and throwing them at people. I approached her and calmly asked her to stop, and tried to tell her that nobody was going to harm her. She yelled "FUCK YOU!" and hurled something at me. Finally I just grabbed her to restrain her from throwing shit and destroying the house. I was hoping someone else would step in, but nobody was, including the dude who owned the house.

    She shouted "LET GO OF ME!! I'M NOT GOING TO LET YOU KILL ME!!" I calmly told her that I was just trying to stop her from throwing things at people, but obviously she wasn't having it. She then said that she was going to kill everyone there once she got free of being held. At this point I told the other people to call 911, and I made sure she didn't get out of my grip. When she realized she couldn't get away from me, she started yelling "RAPE!! THIS GUY IS RAPING ME!!!", hoping that would make me let go. I said back, "Nobody is raping you. Nobody is going to hurt you. Everyone is staying right here with us while we wait for the police to arrive. See Jenny over there? She's on the phone with 911."

    I have to admit, I was a bit scared to be forcibly holding a girl while she shouted "RAPE!", but I had like 10 witnesses who would obviously back me. I was hoping the cops wouldn't get the wrong idea when they showed up and saw this. I told the other people to explain what was going on before the cops came in, and they agreed.

    Fortunately, everything went smoothly. The cops showed up with an ambulance. I let her go, and let them take over. She did the same crazy shit with them, and they instantly understood why I was holding her. In fact, they thanked me for keeping everything from escalating further, she was restrained and loaded into the ambulance, and that was that. The homeowner (or tenant, whatever) thanked me for intervening. I felt like saying, "Yeah, a little help would've been nice here, asshole!", but I just responded that I felt something had to be done before this got really dangerous.

    Fortunately it was a small woman, and not some big dude.

    I knew I had dodged a bullet the prior year when her friends talked her into ghosting me. I felt like writing them a thank you note.

    Maybe she had borderline and not bipolar, but wow... that shit came on fast and was scary. I couldn't resolve in my head what a different person she became. Never would've pictured this when I met her at the bookstore, and thought she was quiet and sweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I believe BCR's story.

    When I was 21, I got to know a girl through a BBS (computer bulletin board) named Erica. She was 23. For a long time we were just acquaintances, but one night we got on the phone and talked for awhile, and it was the first time we had any kind of long conversation. At the end of the call, Erica invited me down to visit her at the bookstore where she worked. The next day I came down there, she was cute -- a short, small girl, probably like 5'2" and 105 pounds. We talked for about 10 minutes, she seemed sweet but quiet, and then told me she had to get back to work. Later that night she sent me a message on the BBS that she found me very attractive, and that she was quiet because she was "nervous" because she liked me so much. I called and asked her out, and she happily said yes. However, that date never took place because two of her friends disliked me, and talked her out of it. She called me up with an excuse, I could tell something was off, and pretty much got the picture. I stopped calling her, and that was that. No big deal, and I figured I'd never see her again. I got confirmation later from a third party that, yes, she was excited to go out with me but her friends basically said they wouldn't speak to her again if she did.

    About a year later, I was meeting a group of people from a different BBS for a party at someone's house. Erica strolled in, which surprised me because I didn't think she knew that crowd. But whatever, I was cordial, we said hi to each other, and then didn't interact much after that.

    However, as the night wore on, Erica started getting more and more agitated. It wasn't because of me, as I was keeping my distance from her. She started getting into it with another girl there, then started yelling at one of the guys, and I could tell she was having some kind of psychotic episode. She got worse and worse, and at one point started shouting that she knew we all brought her to the party so we could kill her. After that, she started grabbing things in the house and throwing them at people. I approached her and calmly asked her to stop, and tried to tell her that nobody was going to harm her. She yelled "FUCK YOU!" and hurled something at me. Finally I just grabbed her to restrain her from throwing shit and destroying the house. I was hoping someone else would step in, but nobody was, including the dude who owned the house.

    She shouted "LET GO OF ME!! I'M NOT GOING TO LET YOU KILL ME!!" I calmly told her that I was just trying to stop her from throwing things at people, but obviously she wasn't having it. She then said that she was going to kill everyone there once she got free of being held. At this point I told the other people to call 911, and I made sure she didn't get out of my grip. When she realized she couldn't get away from me, she started yelling "RAPE!! THIS GUY IS RAPING ME!!!", hoping that would make me let go. I said back, "Nobody is raping you. Nobody is going to hurt you. Everyone is staying right here with us while we wait for the police to arrive. See Jenny over there? She's on the phone with 911."

    I have to admit, I was a bit scared to be forcibly holding a girl while she shouted "RAPE!", but I had like 10 witnesses who would obviously back me. I was hoping the cops wouldn't get the wrong idea when they showed up and saw this. I told the other people to explain what was going on before the cops came in, and they agreed.

    Fortunately, everything went smoothly. The cops showed up with an ambulance. I let her go, and let them take over. She did the same crazy shit with them, and they instantly understood why I was holding her. In fact, they thanked me for keeping everything from escalating further, she was restrained and loaded into the ambulance, and that was that. The homeowner (or tenant, whatever) thanked me for intervening. I felt like saying, "Yeah, a little help would've been nice here, asshole!", but I just responded that I felt something had to be done before this got really dangerous.

    Fortunately it was a small woman, and not some big dude.

    I knew I had dodged a bullet the prior year when her friends talked her into ghosting me. I felt like writing them a thank you note.

    Maybe she had borderline and not bipolar, but wow... that shit came on fast and was scary. I couldn't resolve in my head what a different person she became. Never would've pictured this when I met her at the bookstore, and thought she was quiet and sweet.
    Yeah that was probably a manic episode or some psychotic break of some sort. Not borderline. Borderline chicks would react and accuse you of rape or flip on you like that if you had some pre-existing relationship you were trying to break off or they perceived as you trying to break off and abandon them. But that’ sounds like you weren’t even the focus of her fury until you tried to help her. That feels more like bipolar mania or something similar. Often someone may have both, but that’s not the typical BPD part there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I really don’t envy his life. She feels really in control of that relationship and it felt like he still has to walk on eggshells around her and she was correcting him even when describing his own perception of things. As I watched I thought I’ll be shocked if they last. I’ll be shocked if she lasts with anyone long term once her looks fade and having to navigate her moods and attitude gets old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Yeah that was probably a manic episode or some psychotic break of some sort. Not borderline. Borderline chicks would react and accuse you of rape or flip on you like that if you had some pre-existing relationship you were trying to break off or they perceived as you trying to break off and abandon them. But that’ sounds like you weren’t even the focus of her fury until you tried to help her. That feels more like bipolar mania or something similar. Often someone may have both, but that’s not the typical BPD part there.
    Yeah at the time I thought it was bipolar. I hadn't thought of that incident in a long time until this thread, which jogged my memory of this.

    That was one of two incidents in my life where I felt had to forcibly physically intervene when a girl I didn't know well was going crazy.

    The other was when I was at neverwin's house in 2008. He had an argument with his girlfriend which was getting increasingly physical (in his defense, she was instigating all the physicality), and she grabbed a knife and threatened him with it. I was just sitting there uncomfortably watching, but once the knife was wielded, I felt I couldn't sit there any longer. I came from behind, grabbed her arms, forced the knife away, then told her, "This is getting out of hand, you two need to separate."

    Unlike the girl from 1994, neverwin's girlfriend said "okay", and seemed to calm down. I said I'd let her go if she promised not to grab any more weapons, and she said she agreed. She then walked outside and called for a ride back home, and spent the rest of the time outdoors waiting for the ride. I actually had to go myself (I forget why), so I walked up to her and asked, "This is over, right? I can leave and you won't go back in there?"

    She said yes, that she was going to be picked up and be away from neverwin for awhile. I found the answer satisfactory enough, and drove off. As you might guess, that relationship didn't last much longer. This is the same girlfriend who later got into trouble bringing drugs into a foreign country, if you remember that story.

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    This is very quickly turning into one of the most enlightening threads on this forum. (That's not sarcasm.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
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    Sorry BCR, but this just sounds absurd. I highly doubt getting car jacked with a gun to your head was less scary than a 100 lb woman throwing a tatrum, probably because she was on some type of crystal meth. All you had to do was call the police, they come and take her to the local jail and then to the psyche ward. This whole bi-polar disorder is a bunch of bullshit, its a learned behavior that has gained acceptance, primarily because it gets you on disability insurance. You never see a guy wearing a construction helmet with a wife and three kids at home having bi-polar disorders. Lately its generally women, with sketchy jobs such as bloggers talking about it. Not saying clinical depression is not an issue, it is, but these derivatives that all of a sudden have surfaced the last 30 years and exploded now on social media, no sorry. It's like the fuckers that sit at home all day over "long covid" and collect a check. Get your fucking as off the couch and get back to work.
    I’m being 100% honest. I am a control freak of the highest order. I drive on winter roads like a little old lady. Legit little old ladies fly past me. I’m white-knuckled at any ice or snow if the temp is below freezing. Irrationally slow. I have five drinks and a Xanax before flying even if it’s 6AM.

    Things that are immediately threatening are done and over and don’t shake me up. When I had cancer I was very much like Druff was with his thing. Doubting every doctor. Constantly researching shit. Anxiety and depression at times, but not what I’d call fear.

    Having someone act that erratically over days petrified me for the same reasons winter driving does except for it was for days on end. Like you hit black ice and it’s not something you can control and the minute it’s below freezing and nasty that lack of control from previous episodes scares the fuck out of me.

    I compared her to a kid because it evoked that same feeling. I felt responsible for some girls safety who was basically like some manic child and yet I felt entirely powerless to alter her behavior. When I was sick I felt like I could figure it out even if that’s irrational. A problem to be solved. It didn’t evoke some feeling of powerlessness because it had many stops and starts and I was always trying to figure it out.

    I thought when she started acting erratically I could figure it out like some problem, yet what I tried made it worse and I couldn’t do anything about it for days. Mental illness does that to me. My mother was mentally ill to a lesser degree than that. Maybe it’s why I’m wired like that? I have no idea. But I know I’ve never had like a nightmare over my own illness or something violent that has happened to me. I have had several nightmares over situations that evoke powerlessness. However that is wired or whatever it says about me, thats who I am.

    my read of the event tells me that a lot of why you felt and did what you did there was b/c of the ativan you provided her. say you hadn't of done that, then what would you have done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Yeah that was probably a manic episode or some psychotic break of some sort. Not borderline. Borderline chicks would react and accuse you of rape or flip on you like that if you had some pre-existing relationship you were trying to break off or they perceived as you trying to break off and abandon them. But that’ sounds like you weren’t even the focus of her fury until you tried to help her. That feels more like bipolar mania or something similar. Often someone may have both, but that’s not the typical BPD part there.


    having dated a hot bpd chick for a long time, obviously very off and on, and doing so before the internet became so prolific, i had no idea what i was dealing with and could only throw her under the crazy girl rubric. for reasons i'm not mentioning, it became the worst decision of my life. among other things, it made me crazy trying to figure her out, blaming myself, etc. it was years later before i figured out what i was dealing with and why. their minds are mush, but they can't see it, and it's actually to the contrary. anyway, it's a no-go situation for anyone considering it for even a split second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
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    I’m being 100% honest. I am a control freak of the highest order. I drive on winter roads like a little old lady. Legit little old ladies fly past me. I’m white-knuckled at any ice or snow if the temp is below freezing. Irrationally slow. I have five drinks and a Xanax before flying even if it’s 6AM.

    Things that are immediately threatening are done and over and don’t shake me up. When I had cancer I was very much like Druff was with his thing. Doubting every doctor. Constantly researching shit. Anxiety and depression at times, but not what I’d call fear.

    Having someone act that erratically over days petrified me for the same reasons winter driving does except for it was for days on end. Like you hit black ice and it’s not something you can control and the minute it’s below freezing and nasty that lack of control from previous episodes scares the fuck out of me.

    I compared her to a kid because it evoked that same feeling. I felt responsible for some girls safety who was basically like some manic child and yet I felt entirely powerless to alter her behavior. When I was sick I felt like I could figure it out even if that’s irrational. A problem to be solved. It didn’t evoke some feeling of powerlessness because it had many stops and starts and I was always trying to figure it out.

    I thought when she started acting erratically I could figure it out like some problem, yet what I tried made it worse and I couldn’t do anything about it for days. Mental illness does that to me. My mother was mentally ill to a lesser degree than that. Maybe it’s why I’m wired like that? I have no idea. But I know I’ve never had like a nightmare over my own illness or something violent that has happened to me. I have had several nightmares over situations that evoke powerlessness. However that is wired or whatever it says about me, thats who I am.

    my read of the event tells me that a lot of why you felt and did what you did there was b/c of the ativan you provided her. say you hadn't of done that, then what would you have done?
    Yeah it wouid have went on for 12-18 hours and then I would have involuntarily committed her most likely. I was seeing the girl at the time, so I would have been reluctant, but come the end of the first day I would have and just said fuck it if she doesn’t get it after the fact. I called Western Psy in Pittsburgh and asked for a nurse and sat there explaining the situation and she told me how rife with repercussions it is to do that and how reluctant cops and professionals are to do it for that reason, but she was so off that if I hadn't given that to her, I would trust they got there and saw the situation as I did.

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    Yeah that was probably a manic episode or some psychotic break of some sort. Not borderline. Borderline chicks would react and accuse you of rape or flip on you like that if you had some pre-existing relationship you were trying to break off or they perceived as you trying to break off and abandon them. But that’ sounds like you weren’t even the focus of her fury until you tried to help her. That feels more like bipolar mania or something similar. Often someone may have both, but that’s not the typical BPD part there.


    having dated a hot bpd chick for a long time, obviously very off and on, and doing so before the internet became so prolific, i had no idea what i was dealing with and could only throw her under the crazy girl rubric. for reasons i'm not mentioning, it became the worst decision of my life. among other things, it made me crazy trying to figure her out, blaming myself, etc. it was years later before i figured out what i was dealing with and why. their minds are mush, but they can't see it, and it's actually to the contrary. anyway, it's a no-go situation for anyone considering it for even a split second.
    You weren’t around on donkdown. I was living with a BPD former stripper after my divorce and probably wrote 100k words on it. Mind blowing shit every day. I dated nothing but absolute nutjobs for six years after getting divorced and cancer. Like 37 years old. I had been caged up sick and married for years and then lost my damn mind. I always had a thing for hot mess girls. That period cured me of it.

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    having dated a hot bpd chick for a long time, obviously very off and on, and doing so before the internet became so prolific, i had no idea what i was dealing with and could only throw her under the crazy girl rubric. for reasons i'm not mentioning, it became the worst decision of my life. among other things, it made me crazy trying to figure her out, blaming myself, etc. it was years later before i figured out what i was dealing with and why. their minds are mush, but they can't see it, and it's actually to the contrary. anyway, it's a no-go situation for anyone considering it for even a split second.
    You weren’t around on donkdown. I was living with a BPD former stripper after my divorce and probably wrote 100k words on it. Mind blowing shit every day. I dated nothing but absolute nutjobs for six years after getting divorced and cancer. Like 37 years old. I had been caged up sick and married for years and then lost my damn mind. I always had a thing for hot mess girls. That period cured me of it.

    again, what an interesting life you have lived. would love to hear more at your leisure.

    and hell yeah, the bpd chick cured me of ALL CRAZY chicks. Period. the crazy/hot matrix is real.

    after the bpd girl, once i got the first whiff of one of them being mentally unstable in any regard, i was done instanter.

    it took years, but i finally met my wife who is wonderful and saner than i am now.

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    What a thread. Plus plus. I will look a the video. Normally I would have passed on Negs but I will definitely give it a look.

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    What does that say about his own issues and personal confidence?

    As long as these two don’t procreate

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    My worst experience (off the top of my head) with a bipolar or borderline girl was VERY scary. Still traumatized by it. I don't remember any of the reasons why (this was many years ago- 15ish yrs ago) but she was in a mood and driving (which was very uncommon) and on the highway she tried to drive into the beginning of a median cement block divider at somewhere between 65-85 just head-on. I was begging her to stop and I just was sure we were dead but somehow I reflexively grabbed her arm and pulled and we swerved off into the ditch, which was still not good but we didn't hit anything. I jumped out and ran like she had a gun lol. I'll never feel comfortable in a car on a highway fully again it seems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aayjay View Post
    My worst experience (off the top of my head) with a bipolar or borderline girl was VERY scary. Still traumatized by it. I don't remember any of the reasons why (this was many years ago- 15ish yrs ago) but she was in a mood and driving (which was very uncommon) and on the highway she tried to drive into the beginning of a median cement block divider at somewhere between 65-85 just head-on. I was begging her to stop and I just was sure we were dead but somehow I reflexively grabbed her arm and pulled and we swerved off into the ditch, which was still not good but we didn't hit anything. I jumped out and ran like she had a gun lol. I'll never feel comfortable in a car on a highway fully again it seems.


    ok, but did you go back to fucking her?

    i did. many times. and i paid for it, each time being more and more costly for my soul.

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    I always had a thing for hot mess girls.
    Never understood why guys have a weakness for this.

    I would pursue if at a bar, in college etc and was just after sex, but others go after the psycho type, knowing the outcome.

    Same.goes for women who seek out bad boys. Smh
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